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    • meagainin
    • By meagainin 15th Sep 17, 2:41 PM
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    ES Parking Enforcment Ltd Ticket face down charge notice
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    • 15th Sep 17, 2:41 PM
    ES Parking Enforcment Ltd Ticket face down charge notice 15th Sep 17 at 2:41 PM
    The driver use a car park where you have to input your car reg to get a ticket which you then display in your window.

    I've recently received a charge notice because the driver accidentally displayed the ticket with the payment details hidden. This was a genuine mistake on the driver's part.

    The letter states that the reason for issue is: Ticket face down -Did not pay and display a pre paid voucher or place it on view.

    The driver has still got the pay and display ticket which shows they'd paid the valid fee for the time the charge notice relates to. I've never had a parking charge notice before and I'm not sure what to do next. Am I liable for this charge? Is there any point appealing?

    ES Parking are members of BPA according to their letter.
    Last edited by meagainin; 20-09-2017 at 8:41 PM.
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    • meagainin
    • By meagainin 5th Dec 17, 7:54 AM
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    Thanks, Claxtome, I borrowed a bit from your response so it's me that should be thanking you
    The rest came from the newbies faq.

    I need to get this submitted before 9/12, is there anything else I should add?

    When I was trying to upload my appeal, there were other photos shown (which I stupidly didn't get a screenshot of) which showed a number of tickets in the window, one was flipped but when I checked the number on it, it wasn't the ticket from the 1/9.
    It looks like the ticket for 1/9 did actually fall off the dashboard and wasn't just face down. I'm wondering if the fact that the other tickets were on the dash but this one wasn't will be an issue when it goes to court?
    Last edited by meagainin; 05-12-2017 at 8:04 AM.
    • meagainin
    • By meagainin 5th Dec 17, 1:40 PM
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    bumped to see if anything else is required.
    • meagainin
    • By meagainin 5th Dec 17, 7:30 PM
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    Another bump, I'll be submitting this tomorrow so any advice would be appreciated.
    • claxtome
    • By claxtome 6th Dec 17, 1:57 AM
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    I need to get this submitted before 9/12, is there anything else I should add?
    Suggest you attach a copy of the actual ticket. Otherwise I can't think of anything (but I am no expert) unless you found anything in the billinghamn thread I gave you a link to in post #19 you want to include. Their response meant business. Having said that don't be surprised you don't just get back a roboclaim response like billinghamn did.

    Summary - The response to a LBC and any replies should be seen by a judge, if it goes that far, so this is your opportunity to have your say.

    When I was trying to upload my appeal, there were other photos shown (which I stupidly didn't get a screenshot of) which showed a number of tickets in the window, one was flipped but when I checked the number on it, it wasn't the ticket from the 1/9.
    It looks like the ticket for 1/9 did actually fall off the dashboard and wasn't just face down. I'm wondering if the fact that the other tickets were on the dash but this one wasn't will be an issue when it goes to court?
    Are you saying the reverse of tickets at the car park in question is printed something unique for each ticket? (I have only seen the reverse of 1 ticket for the car park in question for me).
    Bear in mind the driver of your vehicle got a valid ticket for the day which includes the registration of the vehicle so you have proof you paid for parking on the day. Any anomalies with displaying the ticket is de minimis
    Last edited by claxtome; 06-12-2017 at 2:18 AM.
    • meagainin
    • By meagainin 6th Dec 17, 4:14 PM
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    Thanks, I'll see if I can attach a copy of the ticket. I've had a look at the link you gave me and I'll be adding the bit about a valid ticket but I wasn't sure if the Schedule 4 POFA stuff was relevant to me, though thinking about it I think I might be mixing that up with POPLA appeals.
    Looks like I need to go back and read through that again.
    It looks like each ticket has its own individual number on the front and back of the ticket. I know this because I tend to keep my tickets for a period of time and I have a bunch of them in my car.
    My ticket does include my registration number so hopefully when I have my day in court the Judge will agree with me.
    Thanks again for the help, it's really appreciated.
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