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    • meagainin
    • By meagainin 15th Sep 17, 2:41 PM
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    ES Parking Enforcment Ltd Ticket face down charge notice
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    • 15th Sep 17, 2:41 PM
    ES Parking Enforcment Ltd Ticket face down charge notice 15th Sep 17 at 2:41 PM
    The driver use a car park where you have to input your car reg to get a ticket which you then display in your window.

    I've recently received a charge notice because the driver accidentally displayed the ticket with the payment details hidden. This was a genuine mistake on the driver's part.

    The letter states that the reason for issue is: Ticket face down -Did not pay and display a pre paid voucher or place it on view.

    The driver has still got the pay and display ticket which shows they'd paid the valid fee for the time the charge notice relates to. I've never had a parking charge notice before and I'm not sure what to do next. Am I liable for this charge? Is there any point appealing?

    ES Parking are members of BPA according to their letter.
    Last edited by meagainin; 20-09-2017 at 8:41 PM.
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    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 15th Sep 17, 2:47 PM
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    • 15th Sep 17, 2:47 PM
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    • 15th Sep 17, 2:47 PM
    Everyone is politely asked to read the Newbies FAQ thread near the top of the forum before starting a new thread


    Read up now on the game you are caught up in


    All advice is there on how and when to appeal this


    (ES Parking are IPC members)
    • meagainin
    • By meagainin 15th Sep 17, 2:59 PM
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    • 15th Sep 17, 2:59 PM
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    • 15th Sep 17, 2:59 PM
    Apologies for being thick but I have already done that and confused myself even more.

    Nope the letter definitely says they're part of BPA.

    Any help would be appreciated.
    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 15th Sep 17, 3:02 PM
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    • 15th Sep 17, 3:02 PM
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    • 15th Sep 17, 3:02 PM
    they are members of the BPA "drinking club"
    but use the IPC as there trade body for appeals
    • meagainin
    • By meagainin 20th Sep 17, 8:22 PM
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    • 20th Sep 17, 8:22 PM
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    • 20th Sep 17, 8:22 PM
    Right, I've calmed down a bit and reread the sticky.

    I take it that I need to use the IPC appeal letter and then wait and see what happens next. I'm going to include a copy of the ticket to show payment was made.

    Does anyone know whether this parking charge cmpany are litigious?
    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 20th Sep 17, 8:27 PM
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    • 20th Sep 17, 8:27 PM
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    • 20th Sep 17, 8:27 PM
    First accept that appeals are futile to IAS companies as set out in the newbies FAQ

    But send the letter in the FAQ if you want

    They have 6 years to start legal action against you so whatever their current claims record is won't necessarily be their approach over the next 6 yeard

    Edit your post to remove details of who was driving.

    Be careful not to reveal who was driving if you alter the FAQ letter
    • meagainin
    • By meagainin 20th Sep 17, 8:46 PM
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    • 20th Sep 17, 8:46 PM
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    • 20th Sep 17, 8:46 PM
    Yeah I expect them to reject the appeal but god loves a trier.
    Been trying to edit but wouldn't let me from my phone. Sorted now though.
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 20th Sep 17, 9:16 PM
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    • 20th Sep 17, 9:16 PM
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    • 20th Sep 17, 9:16 PM
    Does anyone know whether this parking charge cmpany are litigious?
    They have tried quite a few. Every one we've helped with has seen them off.

    http://www.bmpa.eu/companydata/E_S_Parking_Enforcement.html

    These are not the brightest bulb in the chandelier, so a well developed defence should not only see them off, but result in a defendant having the opportunity to claim some nice costs from them.

    But no need to be either worried, or too anxious to try to shift this forward quickly. See what transpires.

    Main message - stay calm, eat cake read threads.
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 21st Sep 17, 2:01 AM
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    • 21st Sep 17, 2:01 AM
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    • 21st Sep 17, 2:01 AM
    Does anyone know whether this parking charge cmpany are litigious?
    Originally posted by meagainin
    Odd question when the NEWBIES FAQ thread tells you how to search and find that data.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • meagainin
    • By meagainin 21st Sep 17, 7:13 AM
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    Only odd because you don't know me, I am the master of asking stupid questions when I'm in a flap

    I need to stop flapping and read the FAQ's again as I missed that bit completely.
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