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    • Q*bert
    • By Q*bert 14th Sep 17, 9:27 PM
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    Can I be forced to upload CV to Universal Jobmatch
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    • 14th Sep 17, 9:27 PM
    Can I be forced to upload CV to Universal Jobmatch 14th Sep 17 at 9:27 PM
    Signed up for JSA today and the advisor is expecting to see my CV uploaded onto the Universal Jobmatch.

    Is there a legal requirement for me to do this. My CV was uploaded to some other job sites and since then I've received a number of sales calls.

    I know I could use the TPS but I'm not wanting my private details available to whoever..!
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    • tacpot12
    • By tacpot12 14th Sep 17, 10:01 PM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 10:01 PM
    If you want JSA, you need to do what the Jobcentre ask you to do. It's a reasonable request.
    • k3lvc
    • By k3lvc 14th Sep 17, 10:07 PM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 10:07 PM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 10:07 PM
    Is there a legal requirement for me to do this.
    Originally posted by Q*bert
    Absolutely not - but then there's no legal requirement for them to pay you JSA

    If you're worried about it get a free PAYG sim and dispose of it when you've found a job
    • andygb
    • By andygb 14th Sep 17, 10:53 PM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 10:53 PM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 10:53 PM
    Just upload your CV and jump through hoops.
    If you donot then do expect a sanction - I think it is a c**p system, but sometimes you have to play by the rules.
    • TELLIT01
    • By TELLIT01 15th Sep 17, 8:15 AM
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    • 15th Sep 17, 8:15 AM
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    • 15th Sep 17, 8:15 AM

    If you're worried about it get a free PAYG sim and dispose of it when you've found a job
    Originally posted by k3lvc
    Sounds like a good idea. You should be able to pick up a cheap phone and then you can screen calls. Also set up an e-mail address specifically to tie in with the CV.
    • Guest101
    • By Guest101 15th Sep 17, 10:11 AM
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    • 15th Sep 17, 10:11 AM
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    • 15th Sep 17, 10:11 AM
    Signed up for JSA today and the advisor is expecting to see my CV uploaded onto the Universal Jobmatch.

    Is there a legal requirement for me to do this. My CV was uploaded to some other job sites and since then I've received a number of sales calls.

    I know I could use the TPS but I'm not wanting my private details available to whoever..!
    Originally posted by Q*bert
    Unless it's changed uploading to Universal jobmatch does not send out your CV automatically, you still need to do that yourself.
    • Q*bert
    • By Q*bert 15th Sep 17, 3:24 PM
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    • 15th Sep 17, 3:24 PM
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    • 15th Sep 17, 3:24 PM
    Thing is though..The job centre are claiming they lost my details...?

    Can't be a rule for one and a rule for the other and that is my fault, having to sort their error and at the same time be threatened with action if i do not conform...

    Come on
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 15th Sep 17, 3:45 PM
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    • 15th Sep 17, 3:45 PM
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    • 15th Sep 17, 3:45 PM
    Thing is though..The job centre are claiming they lost my details...?

    Can't be a rule for one and a rule for the other and that is my fault, having to sort their error and at the same time be threatened with action if i do not conform...

    Come on
    Originally posted by Q*bert
    They can do what they like - and will.
    You are not special. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.
    • jobbingmusician
    • By jobbingmusician 15th Sep 17, 3:46 PM
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    • 15th Sep 17, 3:46 PM
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    • 15th Sep 17, 3:46 PM
    If it's any consolation, I am just about to come off JSA. I uploaded my CV (but didn't give them access to my job searches) and haven't had a single phone call. And, to my amazement, there were a couple of jobs (at CEO level) listed on UJM which I didn't see anywhere else (I was short listed for both of them but now have a very satisfactory post elsewhere).
    I'm the Board Guide on the Matched Betting; Referrers and Jobseeking & Training boards. I'm a volunteer to help the boards run smoothly, and I can move and merge posts there. Board guides are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.

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    • annandale
    • By annandale 15th Sep 17, 3:48 PM
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    You dont have to let your advisor see your Universal Jobmatch account but if you give them access they expect you to have a CV on and to make it public.

    You wont be sanctioned if you dont let your work coach see your universal jobmatch account, but you'll have to show other evidence that you are jobseeking.
    Last edited by annandale; 15-09-2017 at 3:52 PM.
    • annandale
    • By annandale 15th Sep 17, 3:56 PM
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    Your details arent seen by employers, only if you actually apply for a job.
    • annandale
    • By annandale 15th Sep 17, 4:09 PM
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    They can do what they like - and will.
    Nonsense, there is no requirement for any jobseeker to give a work coach access to their account.

    Posts like these really are not helpful.
    • jobbingmusician
    • By jobbingmusician 15th Sep 17, 4:21 PM
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    Just to reinforce - my views on the benefit system generally are pretty unspeakable. However, I do see the logic in them wanting you to circulate your CV as widely as possible, and from their POV that means using their system.

    I should also say that despite my views on the system, I was not treated with anything except respect by the staff I encountered whilst using it. I also found that bracing myself, going in with a smile on my face and being pleasant and friendly to all the staff I encountered really helped!

    (I would have found it difficult doing this if I hadn't had a good bank balance. They completely screwed up my claim, closed the claim for 10 weeks because THEY had lost paperwork and generally behaved like incompetent idiots - the Belfast end, anyway. I could see from the notes on the system at my local end that they were really trying to be helpful. I did finally get an apology and all back pay, but life would have been difficult if I had been relying on this money to eat )
    I'm the Board Guide on the Matched Betting; Referrers and Jobseeking & Training boards. I'm a volunteer to help the boards run smoothly, and I can move and merge posts there. Board guides are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.

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    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 15th Sep 17, 4:34 PM
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    Nonsense, there is no requirement for any jobseeker to give a work coach access to their account.

    Posts like these really are not helpful.
    Originally posted by annandale
    Relative to specifically what i quoted on (that you removed and then went off on a tanget) yes they can. They can hold you accountable for not following their rules or making a mistake, however they can make mistakes and noone will be held accountable.
    Last edited by motorguy; 15-09-2017 at 5:46 PM.
    You are not special. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.
    • Stylehutz
    • By Stylehutz 15th Sep 17, 6:19 PM
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    If you want JSA, you need to do what the Jobcentre ask you to do. It's a reasonable request.
    Originally posted by tacpot12
    What a load of carp. Its not reasonable. UJM is not fit for purpose
    • Stylehutz
    • By Stylehutz 15th Sep 17, 6:28 PM
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    Here is one for all you jsa benefit bashers. Just Surpose you allow them access and your two weeks job search on computer for some reason or another has disappeared. Do you think they will believe you if you say you definitely saved it?

    One good reason to never allow them access to your account
    Last edited by Stylehutz; 15-09-2017 at 6:30 PM.
    • annandale
    • By annandale 15th Sep 17, 6:50 PM
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    I didn't remove anything, the quote function doesn't work for me for some reason.

    I'm not a benefit basher BTW. Im on universal credit. I tend to do most of my job search away from ujm and then just update my notes on the system

    Sites like indeed will send you an
    email receipt when you apply for a job.

    Given that the OP doesn't need to allow access at all what is the issue?
    • Stylehutz
    • By Stylehutz 15th Sep 17, 7:23 PM
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    I came off jsa a month ago. I refuse them access to my Account and was treated like S**t by the advisers. Always asked why don't you allow us access. My standard reply because I dont need too.
    • xapprenticex
    • By xapprenticex 15th Sep 17, 8:14 PM
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    ..

    I should also say that despite my views on the system, I was not treated with anything except respect by the staff I encountered whilst using it. I also found that bracing myself, going in with a smile on my face and being pleasant and friendly to all the staff I encountered really helped!
    ...
    Originally posted by jobbingmusician
    Yeah and you also probably didn't come across as a dole dodger / unemployed loophole specialist. That makes all the difference.
    • cjv
    • By cjv 15th Sep 17, 8:29 PM
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    Hiya,

    When I was on JSA I did not allow the DWP access to my UJM account. I provided all evidence of my job search clerically.

    When they said I have to upload my CV to the account, they accepted a screenshot as proof that I had done it. They did not request access.

    Then I just removed my CV after taking the screenshot.
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