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    • VfM4meplse
    • By VfM4meplse 14th Sep 17, 6:26 PM
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    VfM4meplse
    Please let me hold your hand...roll on 2018!
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    • 14th Sep 17, 6:26 PM
    Please let me hold your hand...roll on 2018! 14th Sep 17 at 6:26 PM
    I've had a bit of (good) news today and am going to need some OS handholding for a few weeks. Quite a few weeks

    In fact I can feel the stress coursing through my body right now - so will go for a brisk walk and then fill in the blanks on this post. I need all the practical OS shortcuts I can get!


    Ok, so I'm exercised and showered and have had a chance to think...life's about to get crazy! I am pleased to say that after a long and picky search, it looks like I'm going to finally move back to the shires! (Well, Essex to be precise). If the sale goes through in 13 weeks as I hope that takes us to the the week before Christmas. With slippage, realistically it wil be in the New Year but there is a stack of stuff to do beforehand. Ironically, the only thing I feel I have a handle on is the finances and paperwork!

    The thought of having to pack up the house filled me with dread, there is just so much stuff, much of which I never use! But having thought about it, I know its possible but would appreciate some guidance. I knew I was going to have to economise for at least 12 of the weeks before 2018 but now I've got no choice. Where do I start?

    Food is probably the easiest: no buying it. 3 months to work my way through the freezer. Which is not so easy given that it takes me a week to get through a take-away sized container of soup. The dried goods I'll probably take with me - plenty of space in my new kitchen . Can't wait to pack up my gadgets and bakeware that never get used but equally I don't want to live amongst cardboard boxes for the next few weeks.

    I've got enough toiletries to last me a lifetime. Books are also relatively straightforward. I've got roughly 1,000 and lately have been adding at the rate of 25-30 a month. I am going to have to get a handle on my chazzer craziness. I'll make an exception for the books I've P'inned, but no more buying stuff. My plans are to furnish my excess space with thrifty "antique" furniture that fits in with the style of my new home, so there will be plenty of time for that in 2018. Which is just as well, as there isn't going to be much cash

    Throwing unwanted stuff is relatively easy. Now for the excess. Most of it is packed away in my loft, and I had the intention of getting rid of it. Every penny counts, so I can't afford to give it to charity / stick it on Freecycle . I always meant to start eBaying, but never quite got there. I know it will be straightforward when you get in the swing of things, but also that it requires organisation so how do people do it when they are working full time, commute and making a conscious effort to take time out to exercise? Especially as so much of it is brand new and unused from my glamorous days: shoes, handbags, lingerie and formal dresses. Pre-Christmas is the time it would sell. If I take it with me, it will just hang around for ages and make my new home look untidy.

    And so much kids stuff. What my niece doesn't need, I should get rid of. And then there is clearing the shed...!

    On top of that there is the day to day stuff, there's so much to think about! haven't submitted my tax return for last year, thats the worst job of the year and I hate it . Plus I was looking for another job and I guess that will have to go on hold for now. I know I'll need to create some sort of schedule as I can't afford to waste a single evening but I don't really know quite how to organise Sorting out post, and that sort of thing. And it sounds really silly, but I've got 12 chunky library books on loan to read before I move out of the borough. That takes time too

    It goes without saying that Christmas is cancelled (for me, anyway). I will get help around moving time but I need to make inroads well before then. How long will it take to pack up my home?

    I need to prioritise, and fast. Tried and tested tips, please? And help in keeping me on track....
    Last edited by VfM4meplse; 14-09-2017 at 9:59 PM.
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    • LameWolf
    • By LameWolf 15th Sep 17, 6:26 PM
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    haven't submitted my tax return for last year, thats the worst job of the year and I hate it .
    Originally posted by VfM4meplse
    Prioritise this. It has to be done at some point; and once the "worst job of the year" (I wholeheartedly agree, btw) is done and dusted, it will be a huge weight off your mind.

    Oh, and good luck; I hope everything goes as smoothly as possible.
    LameWolf
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    • dreaming
    • By dreaming 15th Sep 17, 6:50 PM
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    dreaming
    One tip I found invaluable was that when you label boxes, label them on the side. If you only label the top then you have to "un-stack" them to find what you want. Labelled on the side means you can see the one you want instantly.
    • Sassia
    • By Sassia 15th Sep 17, 6:53 PM
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    We moved about 18 months ago after living in a big (for us) house for 7 years and hoarding stuff 'because it might come in handy'..... 2 x4 yard skips later we'd not made a dent. How can one family of 3 have 5 sofas?!

    I feel your pain! But on a lighter note I live in Essex, so welcome!
    • monnagran
    • By monnagran 15th Sep 17, 7:04 PM
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    When you have done the tax return, this is is the way to go. Working a bit on the MarieKondo method.

    Evening 1. select your category - say toiletries - and collect them all up in one place.
    Evening2. sort out all the ones you will definitely need in the next 13 weeks and put them in one place.
    Evening 3. Sort out the ones you want to pack for future use, pack them into whatever box you are going to use and write TOILETRIES on the label on the box and the room the box is to be put in. If you want some in the bedroom and some in the bathroom then you will need both boxes. Chuck the rest, either in the "give away" bag or in the "throw away bag."

    Repeat this for every category, Kitchen gadgets, china, books, clothes, paperwork, tools, bedlinen and towels, pictures etc. etc.

    Some will take you longer, books and clothes will certainly take take about a week of evenings, but you only need to do about an hour at a time and you will soon find that the packed boxes and bags are stacking up and you are living with just the things you really need.

    Now have a stiff drink and get going on the tax return.

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    • Tiddlywinks
    • By Tiddlywinks 15th Sep 17, 8:01 PM
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    Local Facebook selling groups are great for shifting stuff & getting reasonable offers for items.
    Originally posted by kboss2010
    I've had good and bad on FB selling groups... I've had a LOT of no-shows even after people send several messages about times and then saying they are on their way . But, the plus side is that there are no fees.

    You could open a FaceBook account and lock down all of the privacy settings - don't use a photo and use a £10 PAYG for calls etc. You can then arrange a meeting point in a supermarket carpark or other public place to make the sale.

    Ebay - Make sure you know the fees and the postage before listing the items. I've just had a 'life-laundry' clear out and have stuck loads of stuff on there but I listed during a promo offer where the selling fees were capped.

    I did make a mistake of assuming some items were 'large letters' but when wrapped for posting were too big so then fell into the 'small parcel' category which added another £1 to the item.... which was a bit of a blow.

    So, look at the Post Office sizings before you list.

    I have a couple of Really Useful boxes that I keep all the listed stuff in. If things look similar then take the photo of the item next to a number or sticker or something and then store that item in an envelope or carrier bag marked with that number so it's easy to locate when sold.

    I have kept all of the money from the sales in my PayPal account and any cash on collection money has been kept in a separate pot so that I can see the money building up.... that is keeping me motivated to carry on listing.

    For me, using a Buy It Now price with a 'Best Offer' option has been the most successful as a lot of people seem to like the fact that they don't have to wait for an auction to finish.

    Eh... that's it for now.... god luck.
    • Floss
    • By Floss 15th Sep 17, 8:20 PM
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    Also, set your Ebay account to take your fees from your PayPal account
    • short_bird
    • By short_bird 15th Sep 17, 8:54 PM
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    I agree with everyone else on the tax return.

    Are there dress agencies where you are now or where you're moving to? That might be a way of clearing stuff quickly. Also, depending on the age of items in your attic, vintage and retro shops may be interested in your stuff, and there's a market for old toys.

    It feels to me that the whole learning curve of selling each item individually and fitting that into a routine might be a bit much in 13 weeks. And, whatever you decide, you might also need to dissociate yourself from what you paid for something (sunk costs); the money's spent, what you might get back is pennies on the £

    With the toiletries, check how long they've been open for as it might be time to ditch them, perfumes may have gone off etc.

    Good luck, I'll be back
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    • lessonlearned
    • By lessonlearned 15th Sep 17, 9:43 PM
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    How exciting for you. You sound thrilled.

    Some excellent advice already. I would just say, don't panic. Just take it one step at a time but don't procrastinate, especially don't waste your time reading library books. You just don't have that kind of time at the moment. I take it they still have libraries in Essex

    So deep breath, jump in and get cracking, the sooner the better.

    Good luck.........

    And no more chazza shop bargains for now.
    • Lynplatinum
    • By Lynplatinum 15th Sep 17, 11:41 PM
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    List and Label
    Hiya VfM4meplse

    Brilliant news - well done! My list would go:

    1) DO that flippin tax return - I hate them too! gotta do mine ASAP - feel free to PM me and scream if you need to!

    2) Buy a thick, permanent pen, note book thats a bright colour and a pen of a bright colour that will clip in to it!!!! Make notes - phone numbers - dates you called folks etc - where you stashed stuff all in one place!

    3) Ask friends if you can stash the stuff you dont have time to sort in their garage etc etc - write whose got what and for how long in your note book! (they will want it gone at some point. This way you can do a car load at a time most evenings!

    4)Second the use of old veg boxes for books and cds. But LABEL LABEL LABEL!!

    5) Do a bit each day - even 10 mins will make you feel better!
    6) have a bag by the front door for chazzer stuff so that on a Saturday you can just grab it and take it there - you will find stuff you cant ebay and dont want!

    Start with clothes - books and cds are easier to store. Follow with kitchen cupboards (you ll find stuff you never knew you had in there! and gadgets you think - why on earth?????)

    Best of luck!! Ill pop by this thread and see how you get on.

    PS there is a list somewhere on MSE about whom you need to contact when you move - when I remember where Ill let you know! it was invaluable for me last year!
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    • PollyWollyDoodle
    • By PollyWollyDoodle 16th Sep 17, 12:45 AM
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    Good luck, and welcome to Essex!
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    • VfM4meplse
    • By VfM4meplse 16th Sep 17, 5:11 AM
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    Day 2 (yesterday)
    Thanks for all your messages of support. There are some truly amazing posters on this thread, I've been through 2 full house moves in the space of 3 months before and was highly traumatised by the circumstances, hence felt very apprehensive about the logistics of this move. But that was many years ago, and it's time to move on... it's good to have a team of experienced angels to motivate me

    Today it feels quite normal that I am going, my brain obviously adjusted itself after a good rest! I decided to do a bit every day, starting with getting rid of stuff and sorting out my tax return. As long as I keep moving in the right direction it will be far less stressful towards the finishing point. Human inertia, bodies in motion and all that....



    Today was the start: I made inroads into some paperwork, did some chasing related to the sale and then I returned something that had been hanging around for ages, which was followed by a frenzy of activity: I decided the lawn needed mowing and felt instantly better. Marie Kondo was right: having an environment that looks cluttered does increase my stress levels, and strangely enough, looking out in perfectly manicured grass helped

    The earlier comment about finishing library books was also spot on. It too is one of the brain's divergence strategies.

    Let's see what today brings
    Value-for-money-for-me-puhleeze!

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    • Pooky
    • By Pooky 16th Sep 17, 6:54 AM
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    From my experience with moves I wouldn't be packing anything yet but I'd be getting rid and organising so that what was left was only the stuff I want to take and that is clean, grouped and ready to pack.

    It's very easy to start descending into chaos having a box of half packed stuff, a box of stuff that you'll sort later, a charity bag, a box of stuff to sell etc......

    Grab a bin bag and go through every draw and cupboard and chuck out anything that's obviously rubbish. Then go through and tidy each area whilst grouping stuff together, it's then far more obvious what can go. Before you put anything in a box, clean it, dust it, wipe it, scrub it, whatever it needs.

    Banana boxes are amazingly strong and ideal for anything from china to books and with the top of the box on, they stack well. I always write on each side what's in it, no big list just a general "kitchen breakable" or "craft" etc. That way they'll all make it to the correct rooms when you get to the new house.

    Think ahead about what furniture you want to take and which will be going and sort out the most suitable time to get rid.

    It's also worth thinking about how you're moving, get some quotes if others are doing it for you or find out the cost to hire a van and get that on your list of "things to pay out for". I find that being organised with how much it's going to cost and when always makes me feel more in control.

    If you've got a spare room that you can start packing in to then ideal but otherwise, leave it until a few day before you go, just make sure you have enough boxes. I find the big blue ikea bags are invaluable - ideal for bulky things like shoes, cushions, duvets etc and their shape means they stack fairly well if you fill them right.

    I spent years moving around a few 1000 books from house to house when we moved and wonder just how much time and money was spent on lugging those things alone, we now only keep around 10 books in the house and they're off to the charity shop as soon as they're read. I'd much rather have the space than keep bits of dead tree that I can either buy again if I'd like to reread or borrow from the library. It was very freeing when they went, I'm not sure why we felt the need to keep them but I'd like to think that someone else is actually getting joy from reading them rather than them sitting and decaying on my shelf.
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    • Serendipitious
    • By Serendipitious 16th Sep 17, 7:13 AM
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    Congratulations

    Tax return first, there is a massive reward in getting this done - you will free up a whole lot of space in your mind for the interesting times ahead.

    After that I'd tackle any outlying areas like garage/shed/loft/cellar - as you won't want to be dealing with any clutter in those at the last minute.

    Then I'd decide what constitutes valuable or important items, and pack up your precious stuff first. I don't mean paperwork, I mean special ornaments and so forth. The reason for this is that if you leave yourself surrounded with extra-special things, you will have to find time to pack them properly last minute, and that's risky. The last few days are stressed enough without chasing round looking for bubble wrap. (Speaking of which you can get loads for free from the fruit and veg section of the supermarket.)
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    • kittie
    • By kittie 16th Sep 17, 7:22 AM
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    This thread is also going to help me and others, I will be moving when I have bought a house, so I`ll keep tagging along and reading with great interest. I have moved 9 times in my married life and no time has been easy but some obviously better experiences than others. It is a different ball game now, for me, so I will be learning and applying from the various posts and from VfMs actual posts as she sets to.

    I believe that Pookys post above will apply most to me at at he moment, I started doing it that way quite some months ago. I don`t think VfM will have enough time to be as thorough and obviously wants to exchange goods for cash, easier for me as my goods are being donated to a cs

    I just did my tax return but the easier way via an accountant, whom I kept after my husband died, even this easier way it is stomach churning, just getting the bits of paper together. I would get it done today VfM, draw a line across and tomorrow could be the actual start day of your new adventure.Please keep us all in the loop
    • LameWolf
    • By LameWolf 16th Sep 17, 12:07 PM
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    There seems to be a general air of "hating tax returns" - I wonder why that is? VfM I shall be looking out for a post that says you've done yours.
    I did mine mid-August, btw - that seems to be the point at which I have all the info I need to get it done.

    Fwiw, the last time I "moved house" - in 2002 - I literally had just the car and the clothes I stood up in! I then spent a few weeks periodically going back to the house to collect a carful of my stuff (much of which I had to argue for) - but the circumstances were far from normal; the last time I did a "normal" house move was 1994, so I don't have a lot of useful advice to offer.

    But I will be cheering from the sidelines.
    Last edited by LameWolf; 16-09-2017 at 12:09 PM.
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    • firebubble
    • By firebubble 16th Sep 17, 4:28 PM
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    As others have said, tax return first!

    Sheds, lofts, garages and outbuildings next - go through those and get rid of what isn't needed for the new place, as these are most likely to store stuff which is very rarely used or is seasonal (eg gardening equipment) and can therefore be got ready to move now. Anything you're taking, check it still works, doesn't need a repair and has all its attachments - there's no point taking anything that's broken or doesn't work. Ideally, clear them completely, sweep and then shut the door - you won't need to go in them again, and you won't be worrying about these areas at all. If you do need to continue storing stuff in any of these, pick one, but clear the rest completely - then you can tick that off your list!

    Clear a space in your house, somewhere downstairs ideally, in readiness for all your boxes as they are ready over the next few months. Nearby, you want to keep permanent markers for labelling - don't seal the boxes at this point, just stack them up. If you're packing up this early, you'll definitely need to get into at least one for something or other, so no point wasting masking tape! Also, make sure you don't overfill - particularly easy with books. Keep boxes to a sensible weight.

    Start collecting packing boxes for the move, bubble wrap and also packaging for your ebay (or wherever you're going to sell it) stuff. Sign up to freecycle and maybe FB groups, because people often move house and want someone to come and collect their packing materials.

    As an aside, and said in my sternest voice, e baying stuff is a hug faff and takes up a lot of time - think how long it takes to iron, hang up and photograph, create the description, work out all the measurements etc for one single item. It is not the path to riches - we have reached peak stuff, particularly with clothes, and therefore items go for pennies or remain unsold. Then you have to package it up (another cost), and post, on which you may lose money if you underestimate (if you overestimate, people won't bid). Then inevitably, there is always someone who complains because something isn't perfect, so that will be refunded.

    On this basis, really consider whether it is worth the time and effort for what you get back. If you're selling clothes, look hard at the condition - buyers basically want new stuff, barely been worn or has tags on. Children's clothes don't sell well, even as a job lot. If you have designer stuff, very vintage things, or high end high street (hobbs, jigsaw, whistles), these are worth selling, but be prepared to list at around the £10 level if you really want to get rid of it. M&S, Zara and below etc probably isn't worth your time to sell. I always list things for a flat price, as it's heartbreaking when stuff sells for 99p because canny bidders wait right until the last minute.

    Also make sure you list in plenty of time - if you list for a flat price, e bay lets you list for 30 days. You'll want to enjoy your Christmas too, and so work out a cut-off date when you'll stop or suspend listing because you'll be properly busy with the move, and when Christmas postal queues mean you could spend hours waiting to post something you've sold for £2. You'll be stressed enough with the move, so don't add harrassment from last minute bidders as to whether they will get their item in time for Christmas.

    Make a list of services you'll need to notify when you move, and their contact numbers and moving process (you might need to write rather than call) (gas, elec, water, bank, council tax, wifi, sky, post, pension providers etc). Start the list now, so nothing gets missed and you have plenty of time to add to it, particularly when paperwork gets packed up. Another tip: when you send your Christmas cards, include your change of address in the card.

    Go through each room and look for things that you definitely don't want or are rubbish - these you can get rid of now for an easy win.

    As others have said, a thousand books is a lot of boxes and effort to move...do you really need to keep all of them? If there is a library near your new place, get online and check their catalogue to see if your book is available...if so, do you really need to warehouse your own copy?

    As we're going into winter, consider seasonal stuff that you can pack up now as it won't be needed - summer clothes and shoes, outside furniture and picnic stuff. Pack up your Christmas decs for the move as well - you won't need them this year.

    Also, if you have a garden (you'll know more about this than me!), but are there any plants you want to take - when do these need to be dug up or cuttings taken?

    Good luck! I'm looking forward to reading more.
    • short_bird
    • By short_bird 16th Sep 17, 6:00 PM
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    That's a point: are you selling the place you're living in now as well as buying the new place?

    Just thinking that a final clean and tidy and doing odd jobs in the current place (if it's rented to get your deposit back) needs to go on the list.
    Cancel the kitchen scraps for lepers and orphans, no more merciful beheadings, and call off Christmas.
    • White_musk
    • By White_musk 16th Sep 17, 6:48 PM
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    I'm also looking to move, downsizing from a two bed bungalow to a one bed. I had a viewing last week and am going again Monday but I think it may be the 'one' for me. I shall read this thread with interest and add any tips I can. I'm having the removal company pack and move me as disability prevents me doing it myself.

    Good luck, exciting times.
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    • VfM4meplse
    • By VfM4meplse 16th Sep 17, 10:28 PM
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    VfM4meplse
    I spent years moving around a few 1000 books from house to house when we moved and wonder just how much time and money was spent on lugging those things alone, we now only keep around 10 books in the house and they're off to the charity shop as soon as they're read. I'd much rather have the space than keep bits of dead tree that I can either buy again if I'd like to reread or borrow from the library. It was very freeing when they went, I'm not sure why we felt the need to keep them but I'd like to think that someone else is actually getting joy from reading them rather than them sitting and decaying on my shelf.
    Originally posted by Pooky
    I'm not there yet. Actually I'm not bothered by possessions, but books...well they are knowledge, aren't they? Who knows, I might feel differently a few years down the line!

    That's a point: are you selling the place you're living in now as well as buying the new place?

    Just thinking that a final clean and tidy and doing odd jobs in the current place (if it's rented to get your deposit back) needs to go on the list.
    Originally posted by short_bird
    My current home is a whole separate headache to get sorted. I'm actually considering moving back in with my parents after exchange so I can get it cleaned thoroughly and painted. It probable sounds very odd, but I want to leave it in showhome condition.

    It's so tempting to start to pack up the "easy" stuff: clothes and books etc, but the reality is that I don't have the space to store it away from cupboards. I think I can probably leave this until the week ahead of moving (Christmas?) out and then just blast through it.

    I do think it's possible to dedicate 1hr a day Mondays-Fridays to throwing stuff away, for the next month at least. I've also decided that there is going to be a less going out, and a lot more staying in

    firebubble, your eBay advice has been very helpful. You're right, it just adds an unnecessary distraction. I'll pull things out for now and then when I'm ready decide whether to try to sell / take to a chazzer,

    Weekends are for the big milestones (including the dreaded TR, but also sorting out my will and LPA amongst other uninspiring chores. I think I need a brain dump of all activities and then to create a project plan. Let's see how far I get with this tomorrow.
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    • Lynplatinum
    • By Lynplatinum 16th Sep 17, 10:49 PM
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    A quick PS

    1) the idea of brightly coloured note book and pen was so that they are findable among the clutter and confusion - ask mates now wetther you can store stuff at theirs and get some there this weekend.
    2) Ask for help! Anyone can shove books into a box and take it off to their house! (for example)

    3) consider professional cleaners - the one I used was worth its weight in gold and did a far better job than I could have done - if you PM me I can find out the details but for a 3 bed 2 reception house they charged somat like £200. Such a weight off my mind as by the house cleaning stage I was tired, worn out and not sure where all my cleaning stuff was!
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  • Dear Steve. Please note doing a poll to ask people's opinion does not in itself imply an opinion! https://t.co/UGvWlMURxy

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