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    • Amazin
    • By Amazin 14th Sep 17, 6:24 PM
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    new engine or a new van?
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    • 14th Sep 17, 6:24 PM
    new engine or a new van? 14th Sep 17 at 6:24 PM
    My ford transit T260 engine died after engine oil leaked into the engine and now its burnt. The garage told me its better to buy a new van because all second hand engines are bit of gamble.

    I will see how much it costs to install a new engine by a proper ford garage. I'm assuming it will cost me starting £3000 minimum.

    Part of me want to blame it on the garage because it started giving out smokes after servicing.
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    • Robisere
    • By Robisere 14th Sep 17, 6:42 PM
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    What year is your van? LWB or SWB?

    I ask because my son has been burned by buying one of these some 9 months ago. (Without my input, daft lad!) I could have told him that the older models are cursed with heavy corrosion, which turns out to be the case with his van.

    Take a good look at the chassis and bodywork. How close is it to another MOT? Might even be worth having an MOT, or at least an inspection on a ramp/lift by a local garage. Point being, that may be £3000 you could put towards another van. If you did that, look up local van specialists who sell used vans. They are always looking to buy vans beyond repair, simply for parts. I know the engine appears cream-crackered, but I don't understand this: " engine died after engine oil leaked into the engine and now its burnt. "

    I would get a second opinion on the engine, but what do you mean that oil leaked into the engine? When it "smoked after servicing", was it heavy black smoke on acceleration?
    There may be more than one way to skin a cat.
    But the result is always inedible.

    • sevenhills
    • By sevenhills 14th Sep 17, 8:32 PM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 8:32 PM
    I will see how much it costs to install a new engine by a proper ford garage. I'm assuming it will cost me starting £3000 minimum.
    Originally posted by Amazin
    My car needs engine work at the moment; quotes range from £350 - £850, main dealer parts vary greatly from others. Find a good mechanic, one you can trust, it could be much cheaper than £3,000

    • Marktheshark
    • By Marktheshark 14th Sep 17, 8:37 PM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 8:37 PM
    Transits and ROT are back in a big way, 10 years and they are turning in to bags of crisps, as said above get it checked and learn the difference between rust and ROT.
    They are very different and Transits Rot like no tomorrow.
    Brexit will become whatever they invent it to be.
    • BeenThroughItAll
    • By BeenThroughItAll 14th Sep 17, 8:43 PM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 8:43 PM
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    Transits and ROT are back in a big way, 10 years and they are turning in to bags of crisps, as said above get it checked and learn the difference between rust and ROT.
    They are very different and Transits Rot like no tomorrow.
    Originally posted by Marktheshark
    It's a good job the OP asked about engine replacements then. All that insight into the difference between rust and ROT/Rot will be handy.
    • Marktheshark
    • By Marktheshark 14th Sep 17, 8:46 PM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 8:46 PM
    It's a good job the OP asked about engine replacements then. All that insight into the difference between rust and ROT/Rot will be handy.
    Originally posted by BeenThroughItAll
    Very handy indeed if they are about to waste £3k on an engine only to find the van has rot.
    Hey they may even save some money, we could call this money saving expert !
    You know, like a forum where people give advice as opposed to sarcasm.
    Brexit will become whatever they invent it to be.
    • Warwick Hunt
    • By Warwick Hunt 14th Sep 17, 8:49 PM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 8:49 PM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 8:49 PM
    Very handy indeed if they are about to waste £3k on an engine only to find the van has rot.
    Hey they may even save some money, we could call this money saving expert !
    You know, like a forum where people give advice as opposed to sarcasm.
    Originally posted by Marktheshark
    Have you seen his van and the rot you mention?
    • Robisere
    • By Robisere 14th Sep 17, 8:57 PM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 8:57 PM
    Have you seen his van and the rot you mention?
    Originally posted by Warwick Hunt
    No, but he knows whereof he speaks. Older Transits DO suffer from corrosion, that is a fact. My son's is crumbling away, front chassis members, floor, everywhere.
    Links:
    http://fordtransit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=25727

    NEW Transits! -
    https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1250230
    So maybe he doesn't need to see it?
    Last edited by Robisere; 14-09-2017 at 9:01 PM.
    There may be more than one way to skin a cat.
    But the result is always inedible.

    • BeenThroughItAll
    • By BeenThroughItAll 14th Sep 17, 8:58 PM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 8:58 PM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 8:58 PM
    Very handy indeed if they are about to waste £3k on an engine only to find the van has rot.
    Hey they may even save some money, we could call this money saving expert !
    You know, like a forum where people give advice as opposed to sarcasm.
    Originally posted by Marktheshark
    I think you mean ROT.

    And you're a fine one to talk about giving advice - your post didn't advise the OP of anything useful to do with their query, nor did you put any context around the only advice you did, rather rudely, give - to "learn the difference between rust and ROT".
    • BeenThroughItAll
    • By BeenThroughItAll 14th Sep 17, 9:00 PM
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    No, but he knows whereof he speaks. Older Transits DO suffer from corrosion, that is a fact. My son's is crumbling away, front chassis members, floor, everywhere.
    Originally posted by Robisere
    His T260 could be as little as four years old...
    • Marktheshark
    • By Marktheshark 14th Sep 17, 9:02 PM
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    No, but he knows whereof he speaks. Older Transits DO suffer from corrosion, that is a fact. My son's is crumbling away, front chassis members, floor, everywhere.
    Originally posted by Robisere
    It stays well hidden as well, they can look new in the outside and have sub chassis made from bags of crisps, seen 2009 vans with severe rot needing welding.
    If it is earlier than that, then a good inspection is first on the cards before throwing £3k in the engine bay.
    Brexit will become whatever they invent it to be.
    • Amazin
    • By Amazin 14th Sep 17, 10:56 PM
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    my van is a SWB MK7 transit from 2006. Basically the garage couldn't find out exactly what the fault was. They thought it was the smoke from the exhaust. I took it to another garage and they told me to carry driving for another 500 miles then come back to see it. It seems they both couldn't detect the problem. Now the engine is ruined. Should I put the blame on them?
    • Warwick Hunt
    • By Warwick Hunt 14th Sep 17, 10:59 PM
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    my van is a SWB MK7 transit from 2006. Basically the garage couldn't find out exactly what the fault was. They thought it was the smoke from the exhaust. I took it to another garage and they told me to carry driving for another 500 miles then come back to see it. It seems they both couldn't detect the problem. Now the engine is ruined. Should I put the blame on them?
    Originally posted by Amazin
    If it makes you feel better.
    • reeac
    • By reeac 16th Sep 17, 8:06 AM
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    Transits and ROT are back in a big way, 10 years and they are turning in to bags of crisps, as said above get it checked and learn the difference between rust and ROT.
    They are very different and Transits Rot like no tomorrow.
    Originally posted by Marktheshark
    Generally rust refers to corrosion of ferrous metals eg. steel whereas rot refers to deterioration of organic materials such as timber.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 17th Sep 17, 1:39 PM
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    my van is a SWB MK7 transit from 2006. Basically the garage couldn't find out exactly what the fault was. They thought it was the smoke from the exhaust. I took it to another garage and they told me to carry driving for another 500 miles then come back to see it. It seems they both couldn't detect the problem. Now the engine is ruined. Should I put the blame on them?
    Originally posted by Amazin
    So you noticed a problem, and took the van to one garage. They couldn't diagnose it.
    You took it to a different garage, who (presumably) did something, then suggested you return in 500 miles.

    And you think that one or both of these garages caused the problem? No, it's almost certainly simply wear and perhaps poor prior maintenance. But based on "engine oil leaked into the engine" (well, where else should it be?), all bets are off as to remote diagnosis...

    It's an 11yo van. Why on earth would you insist on a main dealer fitting a brand new engine? Bear in mind 2006 was a change-over model year - and part of the changes included different engines. It will also have a different engine if it's a 260 FWD or RWD - so simply saying "2006 T260" could be any of four different engines.
    • sevenhills
    • By sevenhills 17th Sep 17, 1:46 PM
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    My ford transit T260 engine died after engine oil leaked into the engine and now its burnt. The garage told me its better to buy a new van because all second hand engines are bit of gamble.
    Originally posted by Amazin
    I assume that you are trying to tell us that your van was burning engine oil?

    In which case, you should have checked your oil more often. I believe the Highway code recommends a minimum of once per week.

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