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    • anthonybub
    • By anthonybub 14th Sep 17, 4:01 PM
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    Seasonal self employed tutor and Universal Credit
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    • 14th Sep 17, 4:01 PM
    Seasonal self employed tutor and Universal Credit 14th Sep 17 at 4:01 PM
    Hi

    I am a disabled single mum who works 16 hours per week as a self-employed maths and science tutor. My only child is 6.
    My work is seasonal, I am busiest in May and have no customers in the big 6 weeks summer holidays. I get no money from the end of June to start of September and currently live off tax credits in this period.
    I live in a UC area, but as I get PIP I have not been migrated over, but I am very worried about it. Will they make me claim ESA on my summer break ? If so I will be just on the assessment rate, but I understand I can get SDP on top of this.
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    • Icequeen99
    • By Icequeen99 14th Sep 17, 4:47 PM
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    It's actually quite complicated in your situation. Firstly, it depends on what conditionality group you are placed in for you UC as you mention you are disabled.

    If you are in the all-work requirements group, meaning you have to look for work (up to 35 hours a week, but possibly less depending on what they decide) and they deem you to be gainfully self-employed then during those 6 weeks you will be treated as earning the number number of hours you are expected to work x NMW and your UC will be based on those earnings.

    If you are not in the all-work requirements group - then that deemed income won't apply but they may subject you to work search requirements in that period.

    The only way to get out of this will be to get them to treat you as not gainfully self-employed through that period, but if you do that then i think you will stay in UC rather than go to ESA - unless you have enough contributions to claim CBESA. You would just get the elements of UC you are entitled to and again, depending on your conditionality group, you may need to look for work.

    You should probably take some advice from a welfare rights specialist to find out about the equivalent ESA parts to UC unless anyone else on here can advise.

    IQ
    • anthonybub
    • By anthonybub 14th Sep 17, 5:01 PM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 5:01 PM
    Will my minimum income floor be based on 16 hours a week. Currently disabled people on tax credits only need to do 16 hours to claim WTC.
    • Icequeen99
    • By Icequeen99 14th Sep 17, 5:12 PM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 5:12 PM
    Will my minimum income floor be based on 16 hours a week. Currently disabled people on tax credits only need to do 16 hours to claim WTC.
    Originally posted by anthonybub
    Not necessarily.

    See this link which explains the groups - if you are in the first 3 groups there will be no minimum income floor. If you are in the all work requirements group then it could be higher or lower than 16 depending on what they set it at based on your physical/mental health conditions.

    IQ
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