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    • jane.eyre
    • By jane.eyre 14th Sep 17, 11:46 AM
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    How has comping changed in the last five years?
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    • 14th Sep 17, 11:46 AM
    How has comping changed in the last five years? 14th Sep 17 at 11:46 AM
    Hi all!
    I used to be an avid comper and MSE user back in the day (New account as I forgot my login details to the old one!). Comping was a real hobby for me, I found it both relaxing and exciting and every now and then, I'd win something - big or small, it always put a smile on my face. Unfortunately, life eventually got in the way and I've had a five year hiatus from the comps.

    I'm getting back into it and I just wondered (out of curiosity, more than anything) if/how you felt comping had changed over the last five years? For example - I don't remember instagram competitions being a particularly big thing but they seem to be everywhere now!

    Has comping changed at all? Do you enter more comps on twitter than you do online? Are there fewer effort competitions? Are prizes getting bigger or smaller?

    I'd love to hear your thoughts!
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    • Cathp808
    • By Cathp808 14th Sep 17, 12:17 PM
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    Hi, I would say it is harder to win prizes and that social media holds a big chunk of the competitions.
    £898/2017, £1640/2016 50 Challenges 2017 - 6/50
    • Sunny Saver
    • By Sunny Saver 14th Sep 17, 2:01 PM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 2:01 PM
    The xxxxooooxxxx, I would name my first born after you if you gave me your used condom, my dog's mother's second cousin's owner's aunt has cancer, if you gave me a packet of chewing gum it would improve her live. My son got married, here's a photo of the wedding night, hasn't she got a fine pair. All the better if you let her have a prize of a cuddly monkey
    “It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living.”

    F. Scott Fitzgerald
    • cagsd
    • By cagsd 14th Sep 17, 2:21 PM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 2:21 PM
    As already mentioned, it is SO much harder to win than it was 5 years ago. In 2012-3 I was winning around a prize a week, some big some small but I never had a dry month. Fast forward to this year and I think I've had about 5 wins all year, an average of less than one a month.
    Part of the reason is of course that there are so many more people entering now, but the main difference I see is that almost everything is on social media. Where a competition may have had perhaps 500 entries when it was a case of filling in a form on the company's website, you'll now get 5,000 entries on Facebook (or in the case of the Home Bargains etc type ones, more like 50,000!). People don't have to go out of their way to look for comps, they're just there on their Facebook feed while they're scrolling through, and it takes a second to like or comment on a post.
    There also seems to be a great many more smaller prizes around, and far fewer big ones!

    • mjm3346
    • By mjm3346 14th Sep 17, 4:35 PM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 4:35 PM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 4:35 PM
    Far more daily entry competitions with small and reasonable size prizes spread across multiple sites so you can make hundreds or thousands of entries for each prize.

    No free web entry for the main ITV competitions.

    Whatever type of social media is "flavour of the day" will take competitions from other entry routes (as web entry forms almost wiped out postal entry, FB and TW then took chunks out of web entry forms as instagram and others are now eating into FB and TW comps)

    Advents have rapidly declined over the last five years and calling them naff is harsh on anything that is naff - so many non-prizes such as hints/tips/discounts/free P&P along with no idea when Advent actually is.

    On the plus side there are usually some black Friday/cyber Monday competitions (not tainted by religion like the Advents*)


    *from a marketing point of view when you want to appeal to as many potential customers as possible.
    Currys stopped their Adventish "wishlist" to concentrate on promotions for BF/CM.


    Effort comps are quite rare and even some of them are "random" winner, it's so much easier to run them that way than have a judging panel.
    Last edited by mjm3346; 14-09-2017 at 4:38 PM.
    • dontone
    • By dontone 14th Sep 17, 5:08 PM
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    Saw this post so dug out my 2012 diary to compare September 2012 to the present day.
    The results were (not hard to figure out too) that I had won quite a bit of stuff by now in the month of September in 2012, compared with - so far- s*d all in 2017. I'd just come back from a trip to Amsterdam at the back end of August, where I won that on a P&O instant, and the hotel was paid for by a £500 pepsi win.
    What I am saying is that it has gotten far harder to win anything decent nowadays than back then.
    At one point, there was tons of big prizes up for grabs, there were games you could play to win things and generally it was easier to win something half decent. Even daily instant wins were a lot of fun to do.
    Now, it's just that there are more and more people trying to win smaller prizes (is it fair to say scraps?) and a lot of stuff has shifted to things like FB Where certain folk think that they should win everything (& where begging and sob stories rule supreme) and TW.
    It doesn't help these people selling their stories to newspapers bragging about their hobby and encouraging others to join in, who then come on here pretty quickly to complain that they enter 3 comps a week, been at it for 4 weeks and haven't won anything.
    While it's still fun and a thrill to enter and win things, the odds have increased a lot and there are more people doing them.
    Even the advents have really dropped off over the years. It's a shame.
    BTW, has anybody seen the comping fairy? i thought while I was here, I'd ask about her whereabouts.
    Be Lucky
    BEST EVER WINS WON IN ORDER (so far) = Sony Camcorder, 32" lcd telly, micro ipod hifi, Ipod Nano, Playstation 3, Andrex Jackpup, Holiday to USA, nintendo wii, Liverpool vs Everton tickets, £250 Reward Your thirst, £500 Pepsi, p&o rotterdam trip, perfume hamper, Dr Who stamp set, steam cleaner.

    comping = nowt more thrillin' than winnin'
    • Zanzib
    • By Zanzib 14th Sep 17, 10:15 PM
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    And the magazine dailies, many of the prizes are shared across magazines in the publishers group, so more entries for the same prize or multiples of a prize.

    Click to Wins are now a thing. There's a long list somewhere...
    • mjm3346
    • By mjm3346 14th Sep 17, 10:45 PM
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    Click to Wins are now a thing. There's a long list somewhere...
    Originally posted by Zanzib
    They are signposted on the road to damnation
    • libra10
    • By libra10 15th Sep 17, 5:21 PM
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    • #9
    • 15th Sep 17, 5:21 PM
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    Five years ago there weren't those horrendous picture captcha codes. Whoever thought up those instruments on torture?
    • lovetowinacar
    • By lovetowinacar 17th Sep 17, 5:27 PM
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    Comping has changed MASSIVELY in the last 5 years.

    Going back 5 years I entered a reasonable number of competitions (due to work time was limited) and had a nice number of prizes (no huge ones but lovely small wins).

    I have recently returned to comping but again time limited but see that even competitions for much smaller prizes have entries in the thousands...

    I don't enter FB TW INSTA GLEEM etc etc (so at a disadvantage but then again a FB comp for £100 voucher is showing 22489 entries already with another week to go..... and that requires stating how wonderful and innovative the product is so lots of gushing needed...

    I used to love postal comps (old fashioned) and they are very few and far between now
    • SwishFlares
    • By SwishFlares 17th Sep 17, 10:05 PM
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    it's already been said, but stay away from FB competitions, unless you want to despair constantly over the mentality of people who would use a tragic life event to win a very small prize "give me a toaster cos my mum's got cancer"

    how have we reached this stage?!
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    Best win all time - World Cup Final Trip to Japan

    Wishlist for 2017 - Flights/Holiday to Australia!
    • The 3rd Zebu
    • By The 3rd Zebu 18th Sep 17, 8:47 PM
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    Many of the the competitions with 'apparently' large numbers of prizes are far less generous than they used to be.

    The word "algorithms" seems to be creeping into the rules of competitions more and more. It is the promoters' way of drastically cutting down the number of prizes they have to award without giving you much of an explanation on how exactly they operate.
    • mjm3346
    • By mjm3346 18th Sep 17, 9:16 PM
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    Many of the the competitions with 'apparently' large numbers of prizes are far less generous than they used to be.

    The word "algorithms" seems to be creeping into the rules of competitions more and more. It is the promoters' way of drastically cutting down the number of prizes they have to award without giving you much of an explanation on how exactly they operate.
    Originally posted by The 3rd Zebu
    Ah Branston Beans

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5367078

    although the walkers holiday letter thing which also required everything to be entered for all the prizes to be won received much more adverse publicity.
    • dontone
    • By dontone 18th Sep 17, 9:55 PM
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    Many of the the competitions with 'apparently' large numbers of prizes are far less generous than they used to be.

    The word "algorithms" seems to be creeping into the rules of competitions more and more. It is the promoters' way of drastically cutting down the number of prizes they have to award without giving you much of an explanation on how exactly they operate.
    Originally posted by The 3rd Zebu
    I was just wondering (after looking in my freezer), that the McCain's Village Raffle has over £3 million quids worth of prizes advertised. But, I haven't heard of anybody winning anything on it.
    All my codes so far have been duds too.
    I remember when Heinzies Beanzies did that code comp in 2008. The prizes were brill, I won a camcorder from it, and I think everybody on here who played won at least a Play voucher.
    It was actually the reason why I joined this forum, to say thankyou to those* who posted the codes.
    *BTW, it's all you lot's fault that I am on here everyday too. Hooked on comping lol.
    Be Lucky
    BEST EVER WINS WON IN ORDER (so far) = Sony Camcorder, 32" lcd telly, micro ipod hifi, Ipod Nano, Playstation 3, Andrex Jackpup, Holiday to USA, nintendo wii, Liverpool vs Everton tickets, £250 Reward Your thirst, £500 Pepsi, p&o rotterdam trip, perfume hamper, Dr Who stamp set, steam cleaner.

    comping = nowt more thrillin' than winnin'
    • mjm3346
    • By mjm3346 18th Sep 17, 10:53 PM
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    The village raffle from another thread

    In 2013 over 28 million bags of McCain Oven Chips were sold
    Promotional packs for this were produced for 12 weeks so on those figures that's almost 6,500,000 codes but I believe sales have risen since then and the codes were available on lots of other products. But just taking what I suspect to be a very low figure of 6.5 million the odds on having a winning pack would be almost 230 to 1 (wouldn't surprise me if the odds were double that or higher)
    • Braintree
    • By Braintree 19th Sep 17, 3:52 PM
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    I comped when unemployed for 4 months in 2011 and won some nice prizes. Nothing major but a Lucozade, Redbush tea, BFI and £200 in Love2Shop vouchers stand out.

    6 years later I had 8 weeks of medical leave and got back into it. Since May 2017 I've had two small wins (A Royal Mail Survey prize draw £10 and a £50 Homebase voucher) The twitter and FB wins seems near impossible and there are lot more people dedicated to comping either full time or in their spare time.

    I am back at work now so more casual but I thought it would be as easy as it was in 2011
    • Minnibix
    • By Minnibix 19th Sep 17, 4:31 PM
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    I started comping about five or so years back and won some incredible prizes, hols and one from NOW mag posted by Toniq to win Xmas worth about £3600, I was surprised after coming back to comping that the prizes (except C2W) are so much smaller. It's still a great hobby and a fantastic community on here just a little less thrilling, don't you think?
    • taxiphil
    • By taxiphil 22nd Sep 17, 4:12 PM
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    One thing that's changed considerably in the last 5 years is the blurring of the line between "judged" photo comps and the payments given on social media to so-called "brand ambassadors" (mummy bloggers, etc) to advertise products with the mandatory #Ad hashtag.

    In other words, they're fake competitions – the prizes are miraculously awarded to the Instagrammer/Tweeter/Blogger instead of payment because they've got lots of followers and give the right kind of exposure to the brand. I would even argue that some of these "winners" are pre-selected before the comp has even begun.

    There's a small close-knit cabal of comping queens, some of whom have spouses or relatives in the advertising industry and utilise their professional resources when producing their entries, who are scooping up a vast number of high value luxury prizes including cars and holidays. One of them seems to spend more time abroad on prize holidays than she does in the UK.

    Needless to say this is all completely against the CAP code, as the companies aren't picking entries fairly based on their individual merit, and blatantly aren't using an independent judge as they should. But as we all know, the ASA is a complete joke. The companies seem to be wising up to this too; I've seen plenty of big well known companies completely ignoring the fundamentals of the CAP code. Whenever I tell them, they simply couldn't care less.

    It's also disappointing to see a well known comping blogger now promoting a photo comp on her blog where the winner is selected by public vote, despite her well known criticism of this style of comp because the winner is always the person who persuades/pays enough people to vote for them. The reason she's promoting it is because the company is paying her to do so. The irony.
    Last edited by taxiphil; 22-09-2017 at 4:18 PM.
    • The 3rd Zebu
    • By The 3rd Zebu 22nd Sep 17, 7:36 PM
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    . . . . Yes there have been many comps recently where the prizes are won by friends and relatives.

    There has also been a few where the prize has not even been awarded at all such as this one:

    forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5447045

    Despite apparently having been taken up by the A.S.A.
    • mjm3346
    • By mjm3346 22nd Sep 17, 11:09 PM
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    The "tougher" ASA were rubbish on a complaint I made re failure of a site to provide winner information or how to obtain it -

    Complaint was made last year, in January I got

    We’re sorry that we’re taking a little longer to assess your complaint than we would have liked. We’ve experienced a significant number of complaints over the last month or so and are working our way through these. We’ll be in touch with you shortly to let you know whether or not your complaint will be investigated further.
    Then 28/02 when they also asked for further info

    Thank you again for contacting the ASA and for your patience while we’ve been considering your complaint.
    01/05 I emailed them for an update as it was 6 months since the original complaint and 2 months since they had been given more info (I had also received a reminder to complete a customer satisfaction survey!)

    No reply to date and I haven't bothered chasing them any more (site now gives the details).
    Last edited by mjm3346; 25-09-2017 at 10:31 AM.
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