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    • Arbiton
    • By Arbiton 13th Sep 17, 8:42 PM
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    Roadworks, Complaint
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    • 13th Sep 17, 8:42 PM
    Roadworks, Complaint 13th Sep 17 at 8:42 PM
    Earlier in the year I had reason to travel to the Tower Hamlets area of London. I have been to London on several occasions and I was following my sat nav. It was nine at night and dark. There were some road works on my left with a Keep Left sign that I followed. I was driving slowly, and could see a line of traffic cones on my right. Keeping to the left, while observing the cones, my two left hand tyres suddenly deflated. I got out the car to find out why and only by the light of my phone could I see that one of the traffic cones had been placed on top of a very rough kerbstone that was jutting out into the road. I have a witness with the AA agent that I had to call, and because it was now very late - it meant that I had to stay overnight in a local hotel to wait until I could get the repairs done in the morning.
    The tyres on my car were only replaced four weeks previously - I still have the receipt. I had to pay out for a set of new tyres and the hotel costs. The council deny liability and refuse to reimburse me. I followed all the signs and did what any other driver would have done. Do I have the right to ask for reimbursement?
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    • paddyandstumpy
    • By paddyandstumpy 13th Sep 17, 9:22 PM
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    • 13th Sep 17, 9:22 PM
    You say you did what every other driver would have done - did every other driver also pop their tyres on this kerbstone?

    Also - unless the AA man was present when you did this, he's not a witness. He came as a result of your call to the AA which was as a result of the damage you caused. When he got there you told him what you did. That doesn't make him a witness.

    (Another) Also - if there was a cone on the kerbstone why did you drive over it?
    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 13th Sep 17, 11:32 PM
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    • 13th Sep 17, 11:32 PM
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    • 13th Sep 17, 11:32 PM
    Earlier in the year I had reason to travel to the Tower Hamlets area of London. I have been to London on several occasions and I was following my sat nav. It was nine at night and dark. There were some road works on my left with a Keep Left sign that I followed. I was driving slowly, and could see a line of traffic cones on my right. Keeping to the left, while observing the cones, my two left hand tyres suddenly deflated. I got out the car to find out why and only by the light of my phone could I see that one of the traffic cones had been placed on top of a very rough kerbstone that was jutting out into the road. I have a witness with the AA agent that I had to call, and because it was now very late - it meant that I had to stay overnight in a local hotel to wait until I could get the repairs done in the morning.
    The tyres on my car were only replaced four weeks previously - I still have the receipt. I had to pay out for a set of new tyres and the hotel costs. The council deny liability and refuse to reimburse me. I followed all the signs and did what any other driver would have done. Do I have the right to ask for reimbursement?
    Originally posted by Arbiton
    Yes, you have the right to ask for reimbursement.
    • Retrogamer
    • By Retrogamer 13th Sep 17, 11:39 PM
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    • 13th Sep 17, 11:39 PM
    Do you have any photographs of the cone, sitting on top of the rock that was encroaching onto the road?
    • Ectophile
    • By Ectophile 14th Sep 17, 12:28 AM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 12:28 AM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 12:28 AM
    You have the right to ask for anything you like - a unicorn, a mermaid or a magic lamp that will grant you three wishes. It doesn't mean that you will get it, though.
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
    • LABMAN
    • By LABMAN 14th Sep 17, 12:36 AM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 12:36 AM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 12:36 AM
    You could see the kerbstone by the light of a phone but not your headlights?
    • trinidadone
    • By trinidadone 14th Sep 17, 12:42 AM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 12:42 AM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 12:42 AM
    Hello Arbiton, a big welcome to Moneysavingexpert.com forums. I see from your first posting, that you have complained to Tower Hamlets council, and they have denied liability / turned down your complaint. If you have not already, have you thought about using the councils complaint s policy? am i correct, your complaining, one of the councils cones had deflated your two front tyres, which resulted in costings of staying in a hotel over night???
    Last edited by trinidadone; 14-09-2017 at 9:30 AM.
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    • Norman Castle
    • By Norman Castle 14th Sep 17, 7:23 AM
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    am i correct, your complaining, one of the councils cones had deflated your cones, which resulted in costings of staying in a hotel over night???
    Originally posted by trinidadone
    Yes, thats right. One of the councils cones deflated the OPs cones.
    Don't harass a hippie. You'll get bad karma.
    • worried jim
    • By worried jim 14th Sep 17, 7:48 AM
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    Yes, thats right. One of the councils cones deflated the OPs cones.
    Originally posted by Norman Castle
    I've not had breakfast yet but now you've got me thinking about a lovely scone with jam. Day ruined.
    "Only two things are infinite-the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not so sure about the universe"
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    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 14th Sep 17, 7:52 AM
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    Replace the whole set of tyres? Did you turn around and reverse into the sharp stone to see if that really did the damage?

    I would ask for a magic lamp with a genie, your first wish should be for some headlights and a better satnav.
    Punctuation, Spelling and Grammar will be used sparingly. Due to rising costs of inflation.

    My contribution to MSE. Other contributions will only be used if they cost me nothing.

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    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 14th Sep 17, 8:29 AM
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    Yes, thats right. One of the councils cones deflated the OPs cones.
    Originally posted by Norman Castle
    Unlike worried jim, I am having my breakfast and almost spat it out when I read this! One of the truly classic posts I've seen on here. Well done Norman, brilliant response.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 14th Sep 17, 8:42 AM
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    Earlier in the year I had reason to travel to the Tower Hamlets area of London. I have been to London on several occasions and I was following my sat nav. It was nine at night and dark.
    Originally posted by Arbiton
    So we're talking about four-five months or longer ago?

    There were some road works on my left with a Keep Left sign that I followed. I was driving slowly, and could see a line of traffic cones on my right. Keeping to the left, while observing the cones, my two left hand tyres suddenly deflated. I got out the car to find out why and only by the light of my phone could I see that one of the traffic cones had been placed on top of a very rough kerbstone that was jutting out into the road.
    You drove into the kerb, in other words. While driving slowly. How do you cope when there aren't cones?

    I followed all the signs and did what any other driver would have done.
    The road must have been littered with cars with two flat tyres, then.

    Do I have the right to ask for reimbursement?
    Yes. And you have done that already.

    However, they've pointed out that the kerb was clearly marked, and you managed to drive into a clearly visible stationary object, causing the tyre damage. The hotel cost was entirely your own choice, arising entirely from your own actions.

    You could issue a small claim next - but I really wouldn't expect it to be successful.
    • Mercdriver
    • By Mercdriver 14th Sep 17, 9:05 AM
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    Replace the whole set of tyres? Did you turn around and reverse into the sharp stone to see if that really did the damage?

    I would ask for a magic lamp with a genie, your first wish should be for some headlights and a better satnav.
    Originally posted by forgotmyname
    People always get Genie's wishes wrong. Your first wish should always be for unlimited wishes. Then the OP could drive around with no fear at all...
    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 14th Sep 17, 10:12 AM
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    Do you have any photographs of the cone, sitting on top of the rock that was encroaching onto the road?
    Originally posted by Retrogamer
    • sevenhills
    • By sevenhills 14th Sep 17, 10:59 AM
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    I got out the car to find out why and only by the light of my phone could I see that one of the traffic cones had been placed on top of a very rough kerbstone that was jutting out into the road.
    Originally posted by Arbiton
    No one should drive into a kerb stone; what do you mean by very rough?
    If you had headlights on, did you see it?

    • societys child
    • By societys child 14th Sep 17, 3:03 PM
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    Yes, thats right. One of the councils cones deflated the OPs cones.
    Originally posted by Norman Castle
    The rise of the cones, I knew it'd happen one day . .

    #conewars

    • Joe Horner
    • By Joe Horner 14th Sep 17, 3:49 PM
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    Yes, you have the right to ask for reimbursement.
    Originally posted by Aylesbury Duck
    Also the right to remain silent.
    • mattyprice4004
    • By mattyprice4004 15th Sep 17, 12:24 AM
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    Hello Arbiton, a big welcome to Moneysavingexpert.com forums. I see from your first posting, that you have complained to Tower Hamlets council, and they have denied liability / turned down your complaint. If you have not already, have you thought about using the councils complaint s policy? am i correct, your complaining, one of the councils cones had deflated your two front tyres, which resulted in costings of staying in a hotel over night???
    Originally posted by trinidadone
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