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    • Susan1942
    • By Susan1942 12th Sep 17, 10:36 AM
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    Tesco or Plusnet Sim only?
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    • 12th Sep 17, 10:36 AM
    Tesco or Plusnet Sim only? 12th Sep 17 at 10:36 AM
    I am now going to buy a phone but want to get sim only. Both Tesco and Plus net particularly have good deals that would meet my needs. I see that Tesco is piggybacked to o2 and that Plusnet to EE.
    Plusnet have got 2 great deals 1.5 GB 2000 mins and 1000 texts for £6 ends 18/9. Tesco have got for the same price 500MB 250 mins and 5000 texts. I am currently with o2 on contract which ends 25/9 I have got 300MB 300 mins and unlimited texts and I dont use anywhere near that. I think average 85MB 100 mins and the most ever texts 440 but average monthly 85. I have never had anything other than PAYG and contracts with o2 Have never been with any other than 02.
    They have the Motorolo G5 tp buy for £129 but only in blue which is exclusive to them. Their cheapest Sim only is £10 50 with mins and data ok but only 500 texts If I want unlimiited texts I have to pay £13 00.
    The Motorolo to buy elsewhere is £149 in gold or grey. I like the grey. I could buy it from John Lewis which would give me a 2 year guarantee. Also Tesco CPW do the phone at the same price. I see CPW use iD sim which is also very cheap. could do with a bit of advice I am nervous about being able to retain my phone no
    If I were to buy the phone from o2 do you think they might give me a better deal on the SIM.
    Many thanks for the information I know will be forthcoming. Sue
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    • ballyblack
    • By ballyblack 12th Sep 17, 11:04 AM
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    Tesco has got 'Tesco Xtras' app which gives you a further £3 off plus 200mb data
    • Mister G
    • By Mister G 12th Sep 17, 11:05 AM
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    • 12th Sep 17, 11:05 AM
    I'm not sure which the better deal will be for you, but I would check that the EE coverage is ok where you are.

    I assume that your current O2 coverage is ok, so that may tempt you to stay with a provider who uses their network.

    You could always try an EE PAYG SIM, but you would need to make sure that your phone is unlocked.
    • Susan1942
    • By Susan1942 12th Sep 17, 11:36 AM
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    • 12th Sep 17, 11:36 AM
    I assumed that if I buy a phone outright say with John Lewis it would be unlocked? Is this correct? I can see that maybe buying one from o2 might be locked as they sell it as PAYG?
    I get great coverage with o2 so as you say it might be wiser to stay with what I know Tesco use o2 ? Would I need to get the PAC code and then give it to Tesco ? Could I do this online as there is not a Tesco store in Harrogate?. Only small shop at garage and a small one in town.
    I do appreciate your advice Thank you
    • Colin_Maybe
    • By Colin_Maybe 12th Sep 17, 1:25 PM
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    • 12th Sep 17, 1:25 PM
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    • 12th Sep 17, 1:25 PM
    I assumed that if I buy a phone outright say with John Lewis it would be unlocked? Is this correct? I can see that maybe buying one from o2 might be locked as they sell it as PAYG?
    I get great coverage with o2 so as you say it might be wiser to stay with what I know Tesco use o2 ? Would I need to get the PAC code and then give it to Tesco ? Could I do this online as there is not a Tesco store in Harrogate?. Only small shop at garage and a small one in town.
    I do appreciate your advice Thank you
    Originally posted by Susan1942
    Never ever pick a mobile supplier based on price alone, if you can't get a decent reliable signal it's just a small house brick. If O2 coverage is good everywhere you normally roam then stick with them as the network at least.

    From MSE's own site that means:-

    Major players: Giffgaff, Tesco Mobile, Sky Mobile
    Minnows: LycaMobile, TalkTalk Mobile

    You might want to check out each of their sites for the phones and/or sim deals. If you're with Sky and intend to remain (they charge £10 a month more if you leave) then they look like they've got some really good deals at the moment.
    • Mister G
    • By Mister G 12th Sep 17, 1:44 PM
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    • 12th Sep 17, 1:44 PM
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    • 12th Sep 17, 1:44 PM
    I assumed that if I buy a phone outright say with John Lewis it would be unlocked? Is this correct? I can see that maybe buying one from o2 might be locked as they sell it as PAYG?
    I get great coverage with o2 so as you say it might be wiser to stay with what I know Tesco use o2 ? Would I need to get the PAC code and then give it to Tesco ? Could I do this online as there is not a Tesco store in Harrogate?. Only small shop at garage and a small one in town.
    I do appreciate your advice Thank you
    Originally posted by Susan1942
    JL phones all appear to be SIM free, so will be unlocked.

    O2 PAYG phones are locked to O2 for the first year. They then charge £15 to unlock it.

    Yes, Tesco use O2

    You will need to get a PAC from O2 by phoning 4445. As far as I know you can't do it online. (You can join O2 online).

    You may find this useful

    https://kenstechtips.com/index.php/pac-code/tesco-keep-number#Joining_Tesco_From_Another_Network

    Hope that helps
    • Susan1942
    • By Susan1942 13th Sep 17, 4:57 PM
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    • 13th Sep 17, 4:57 PM
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    Sorry for not getting back yesterday. Yesterday I went into o2 to look at the Motorola G5 o2 have it in blue which is exclusive to them. The person I spoke to said I could buy the phone for £129 + £10 for a sim card . I realised afterwards that this is probably a PAYG and will be locked to o2. I told him that my contract is not up until the 23rd October and he said that I need to wait until 30 days prior to this date. They were offering 250 MB 250 mins and 500 texts at £10 50 for sim only. This is much less than others were offering for less money. He said I would need to make a call for a PAC no and that retention might offer me a better deal.
    I had gone into CPW as they had the phone in grey at £149 which seems to be where it is being sold everywhere. They could offer me a Sim with Virgin with 300 MB 300 mins and unlimited texts for £6 which is what I currently have. I have never exceeded this in fact no where near it.
    This am I was looking at my account and pressed unlock thinking this would take me another screen. In fact I had actually requested unlocking. I then had a bit of a panic so called o2 I explained what I had done I told the person that I was going to buy a phone when my contract was up and that I was going to leave o2 as I could get a sim elsewhere for less money and more data mins etc
    She then said as a loyal customer she could offer my 500 mb 500 minutes and unlimited texts for £6 I would be more than happy to stay with o2 for this deal. She is going to call me on the 23rd of September and I can then go to Sim only. I have good reception etc with o2 It avoids all the messing about of having to retain my number etc so am happy with this.
    My only other question is can I just buy the phone without taking it PAYG from o2 or purchase the phone elsewhere. I did ask CPW about warranty and she told me 2 years I cant see this when I check online John Lewis state 2 year warranty If I wanted the phone in grey would CPW sell me the phone only and I would just have the contract for sim only with o2. I would like whoever I buy the phone from to set it up for me probably. I am senior senior and a bit scared of moving things like my photos. Will the new phone take the existing SD card I have in my current phone? Sorry too many questions but I rely so much on the people who post on these forums. Thanks again Sue
    • ballyblack
    • By ballyblack 14th Sep 17, 9:22 AM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 9:22 AM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 9:22 AM
    I am senior senior and a bit scared of moving things like my photos. Will the new phone take the existing SD card I have in my current phone?
    On your current phone download/open Google photos App (it may already be installed)

    In settings in Google Photos App click 'free up Space'

    All your photos will go up to 'Google photos' cloud

    Easily access them there on new phone when you sign in

    As regards SD card in new phone it may format wiping all the info on it..

    Best to use Google Drive & photos to store everything in the cloud beforehand

    Bye the way the Moto G5 can be unlocked in an hour or so on Ebay for under £2


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    Last edited by ballyblack; 14-09-2017 at 7:54 PM.
    • Susan1942
    • By Susan1942 14th Sep 17, 10:04 AM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 10:04 AM
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    • 14th Sep 17, 10:04 AM
    I had clicked on unlock on o2 Got a message from o2 saying can't unlock as not our device
    It is an o2 contract but I took the contract and new phone from CPW
    • ballyblack
    • By ballyblack 14th Sep 17, 10:22 AM
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    I said Ebay not o2

    Can be unlocked from o2 or any Uk network
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorola-Moto-G-Mobile-Phone-Unlock-Code-Moto-E-Moto-G4-G5-Unlock-Code-/221377839527?hash=item338b25c1a7:g:R2AAAOxyUylTRUL O
    • tazwhoever
    • By tazwhoever 14th Sep 17, 4:01 PM
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    JL phones are unlocked and I've been using Tesco SIM only for the past 5 years
    • Malcnascar
    • By Malcnascar 14th Sep 17, 6:07 PM
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    I am on Plusnet which uses the EE network. All fine and dandy, however there appear to be issues with EU roaming have a look at the Plusnet community forums.

    My phone is a Moto G5 which I purchased online from O2 s short time ago for £120. The phone was locked to o2, By purchasing online from the o2 store you have to select but not pay for a O2 PAYG bundle, I selected a £10 option. O2 charged £120 to my card and sent the SIM which I needed then to top up to activate, As a Plusnet customer I had no intention of activating the O2 sim. I went to fleabay and paid £1.79 for an unlock code, using the EIMI from the new O2 MotoG5. I made a cup of tea and had the unlock code by the time I had drank it. The unlock code worked a dream, and my Plusnet sim was put in and the phone worked. Having now an unlocked phone I can now switch from network to network as I choose, taking care to ensure the coverage is ok for my needs.

    I am considering moving to Tesco based on the EU issues I experienced with Plusnet.

    If you buy from an O2 store, you will have to pay the £10 but not online
    • Susan1942
    • By Susan1942 14th Sep 17, 6:25 PM
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    I have never used ebay or anything like that as I am not happy to put in my credit card details I know you can have a pay pal card which is much safer. I don't understand how you were able to buy the G5 phone for £120. It seems to be £129 + the £10 for a sim which I would not want. I am happy to stay with o2 if they are giving me a sim for what the o2 rep told me on the phone ie £6 for 500MB 500 mins and unlimited texts. This is better than I have currently and as good as anything else and more than meets my needs. Only point is I would prefer the grey phone to the blue that o2 have. It seems that the blue is exclusive to them.
    I am not worried about the phone being locked as long as I can get this deal from o2. It is just that I don't understand who my phone is locked to if not to o2. Is there are chance that the phone is unlocked? Took the deal from CPW and I must say that the manager in the store was so helpful to me. I was in and out 2-3 times and Adam was most helpful. At a later date I went in to ask if they could help me moving photos to my SD card. I have not found the staff in the local o2 shop particularly helpful. Thanks again
    Sue
    • ballyblack
    • By ballyblack 14th Sep 17, 7:43 PM
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    moving photos to my SD card. I have not found the staff in the local o2 shop particularly helpful.
    Why should they? If some of the photos get lost/corrupted you might blame them?

    Read my post 8 above about photo saving and the App 'Google photos' to use
    • Malcnascar
    • By Malcnascar 15th Sep 17, 9:37 AM
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    I have never used ebay or anything like that as I am not happy to put in my credit card details I know you can have a pay pal card which is much safer. I don't understand how you were able to buy the G5 phone for £120. It seems to be £129 + the £10 for a sim which I would not want.
    Deals change from time to time.
    If you dont trust fleabay and your card on that then so be it, Feel free to pay more. I mhave no axe to grind with anyone. I am cautious and speak from personal experience. O2 are a reputable seller. The deal I had has now gone and is replaced with the £129 deal. I have tried to suggest a way you can get a MotoG5 for less than £131 which will then be fully and permanently unlockerd.

    You, and only you, can decide what is acceptable to you.
    This was the shop on ebay I used it only has 100% feedback
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Unlock-Code-Motorola-Moto-G5-G4-G4-Play-G3-Moto-G-3rd-2nd-1st-Gen-Vodaphone-/121793760021?hash=item1c5b794b15

    I understand there is risk but really £1.79 to get the fully unlocked Moto G5. Pay more by buying a factory unlocked phone is the alternate rout you should take if you are totally risk averse. By the way I love my unlocked former O2 Moto G5 and the saving I made. I even sold my previous Moto G 1 (4g) for £42 through my local CEX shop bringing the cost of the G5 down further. I drive and take risks, I shop and take risks, I live and take risks. I research and use that to keep the risks acceptable.

    You ask, some of us give ideas but you and only you must decide, best of luck
    • Susan1942
    • By Susan1942 15th Sep 17, 5:19 PM
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    I am elderly and whilst I do a lot of shopping online including my grocery shopping
    I am reluctant to use a company I am not familiar with and yes I am a bit risk adverse
    About 3-4:weeks ago.my Daughters Pay Pal account was used fraudulently
    She received an email confirming the purchase It was for some archery equipment and was being sent to Russia The payment was refunded so no.harm done.
    Whilst we are all happy to save money I personally would rather be safe than sorry. Thank you for your information and I do appreciate it
    Sue
    • ballyblack
    • By ballyblack 15th Sep 17, 7:32 PM
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    I am elderly and whilst I do a lot of shopping online including my grocery shopping
    I am reluctant

    you are elderly?

    that is only a state of mind!!

    Get over it and no more excuses!!
    • Susan1942
    • By Susan1942 16th Sep 17, 9:29 AM
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    Bit rude !
    • MoneyMate
    • By MoneyMate 16th Sep 17, 11:56 AM
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    Alot depends what your reception is like where you intend to use mostly, Tesco O2, Plusnet EE.
    There are more questions than answers
    WARNING ! May go silent for unfriendly replies
    Please excuse me Spell it MOST times
    UK Resident
    • Susan1942
    • By Susan1942 16th Sep 17, 11:33 PM
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    Have always been with o2 and had no.problem with reception etc They have offered me a sim only deal for £6 which more than meets my needs
    This can't happen until 23rd September which is fine
    Thank you Sue
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