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    • trinidadone
    • By trinidadone 12th Sep 17, 12:39 AM
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    white zig - zag lines either side of a zebra crossing, but in the middle of the road.
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    • 12th Sep 17, 12:39 AM
    white zig - zag lines either side of a zebra crossing, but in the middle of the road. 12th Sep 17 at 12:39 AM
    Hello all, found this unusual zebra crossing today. the crossing has additional paving on both sizes, which is the width of a car.

    The white zig zag lines are not painted on each of the four sides of the crossing, but are the same distance as the paving, so almost in the middle of the road.

    The distance almost allows cars to park, on the side of the road, without touching the zig zag lines. Is this legally parked, or should receive a instant ticket??
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    • Norman Castle
    • By Norman Castle 12th Sep 17, 8:39 AM
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    • 12th Sep 17, 8:39 AM
    Picture or google map link would be helpful.
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    • martinthebandit
    • By martinthebandit 12th Sep 17, 8:49 AM
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    • 12th Sep 17, 8:49 AM
    'Prohibition of parking in the white zig zag area increases the safety of pedestrians crossing the road as they will have a clear view or the road in both directions'

    So no, not legal or sensible to park there.
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    • Car 54
    • By Car 54 12th Sep 17, 9:01 AM
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    • 12th Sep 17, 9:01 AM
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    • 12th Sep 17, 9:01 AM
    Hello all, found this unusual zebra crossing today. the crossing has additional paving on both sizes, which is the width of a car.

    The white zig zag lines are not painted on each of the four sides of the crossing, but are the same distance as the paving, so almost in the middle of the road.

    The distance almost allows cars to park, on the side of the road, without touching the zig zag lines. Is this legally parked, or should receive a instant ticket??
    Originally posted by trinidadone
    The zig-zag lines, wherever they are, define the 'controlled area' of the crossing, which extends to the full width of the road. It is an offence to stop within the controlled area (with certain exceptions) so, no, you can't park. And it's an offence that carries 3 points, so not just a 'ticket'.
    Last edited by Car 54; 12-09-2017 at 10:24 AM.
    • trinidadone
    • By trinidadone 12th Sep 17, 10:07 AM
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    • 12th Sep 17, 10:07 AM
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    • 12th Sep 17, 10:07 AM
    Thanks, I have never seen white zigzag lines like that before, where the lines are actually on the far side of the vehicle, as appose to the near side.
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    • trinidadone
    • By trinidadone 12th Sep 17, 10:13 AM
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    • 12th Sep 17, 10:13 AM
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    • 12th Sep 17, 10:13 AM
    Picture or google map link would be helpful.
    Originally posted by Norman Castle
    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Asylum+Rd,+London+SE15+2LW/@51.479038,-0.0594738,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCa5q5aVZCLhobz09wgSMPQ!2e0!7i1 3312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x48760308be905ef9:0xb71d6b1 3157af663!8m2!3d51.4773123!4d-0.0584937
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    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 12th Sep 17, 10:16 AM
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    • 12th Sep 17, 10:16 AM
    The lines must have faded a bit...
    • trinidadone
    • By trinidadone 12th Sep 17, 10:26 AM
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    • 12th Sep 17, 10:26 AM
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    • 12th Sep 17, 10:26 AM
    Asylum House
    12 Asylum Rd
    London
    SE15 2RL


    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Asylum+House,+12+Asylum+Rd,+London+SE15+2RL/@51.479038,-0.0594738,3a,77.3y,0.25h,89.72t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sCa5q5aVZCLhobz09wgSMPQ!2e0!6s% 2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DCa5q5aVZCLhob z09wgSMPQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearc h.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D86%26h%3D86%26yaw% 3D241.14616%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8 i6656!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x4876030f44ff8efd:0xba5832f9 20f7ffde!2sAsylum+House,+12+Asylum+Rd,+London+SE15 +2RL!3b1!8m2!3d51.4790357!4d-0.0595248!3m4!1s0x4876030f44ff8efd:0xba5832f920f7f fde!8m2!3d51.4790357!4d-0.0595248
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    • Norman Castle
    • By Norman Castle 12th Sep 17, 10:59 AM
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    • 12th Sep 17, 10:59 AM
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    • 12th Sep 17, 10:59 AM
    Its a parking bay close to a crossing. I would view that as outside the carriageway and OK to park in.

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Asylum+House,+12+Asylum+Rd,+London+SE15+2RL/@51.4792325,-0.0594506,31m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x4876030f44ff8efd:0xba583 2f920f7ffde!8m2!3d51.4790357!4d-0.0595248

    Links to google maps don't seem to be working properly.
    Last edited by Norman Castle; 12-09-2017 at 11:10 AM.
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    • HogMan
    • By HogMan 12th Sep 17, 11:12 AM
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    Looks like you can park, but I would be wary of touching / straddling any of the white lines just in the case there are keen eyed traffic wardens in the area.
    • trinidadone
    • By trinidadone 12th Sep 17, 11:43 AM
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    anyone got any links to the highway code on this?
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    • Car 54
    • By Car 54 12th Sep 17, 11:50 AM
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    anyone got any links to the highway code on this?
    Originally posted by trinidadone
    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 12th Sep 17, 11:51 AM
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    anyone got any links to the highway code on this?
    Originally posted by trinidadone
    Has Google stopped working for you?

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/using-the-road-159-to-203

    Rules 191 to 199.
    • trinidadone
    • By trinidadone 12th Sep 17, 12:03 PM
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    Has Google stopped working for you?

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/using-the-road-159-to-203

    Rules 191 to 199.
    Originally posted by agrinnall
    No, my goggle is still working, thank you.

    I have waved through all the rules you have included, and I cant see the guidance relating to the crossing.
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    • shaun from Africa
    • By shaun from Africa 12th Sep 17, 12:14 PM
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    Hello all, found this unusual zebra crossing today
    Originally posted by trinidadone
    Probably not as unusual as the crossings in Trinidad.
    I'm convinced that many of the drivers use the zebra crossings specifically to target pedestrians!
    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 12th Sep 17, 12:20 PM
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    The original question was answered, all the way back in post #4:

    The zig-zag lines, wherever they are, define the 'controlled area' of the crossing, which extends to the full width of the road. It is an offence to stop within the controlled area (with certain exceptions) so, no, you can't park. And it's an offence that carries 3 points, so not just a 'ticket'.
    Originally posted by Car 54
    • trinidadone
    • By trinidadone 12th Sep 17, 12:50 PM
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    Probably not as unusual as the crossings in Trinidad.
    I'm convinced that many of the drivers use the zebra crossings specifically to target pedestrians!
    Originally posted by shaun from Africa
    not according to the TT driving regulations (The Highway code)

    http://ttregs.com/the-highway-code/part-1-pedestrians.php
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    • shaun from Africa
    • By shaun from Africa 12th Sep 17, 1:58 PM
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    not according to the TT driving regulations (The Highway code)

    http://ttregs.com/the-highway-code/part-1-pedestrians.php
    Originally posted by trinidadone
    Then again, UK driving regulations state that it is normally illegal to use a mobile phone whilst driving and a red traffic light means you should stop but how often are these ignored?


    Zebra crossings in many parts of Trinidad do seem to be totally ignored by many drivers.
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 12th Sep 17, 2:08 PM
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    No, my goggle is still working, thank you.

    I have waved through all the rules you have included, and I cant see the guidance relating to the crossing.
    Originally posted by trinidadone
    Have you been to Specsavers recently? If not I'd suggest a visit is overdue.

    "
    Rule 191

    You MUST NOT park on a crossing or in the area covered by the zig-zag lines."

    To get a greater level of detail you would need to look at the legislation linked to in the Highway Code, but you can do that yourself as I can't be bothered to waste my time.
    • LeeUK
    • By LeeUK 12th Sep 17, 2:14 PM
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    Just park a few car lengths along free from the zig zags. Or are you one of these people that must be as close as possible no matter what.
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