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    • PollySouthend
    • By PollySouthend 11th Sep 17, 2:17 PM
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    Policeman rear ended me at a junction and wrote off my car
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    • 11th Sep 17, 2:17 PM
    Policeman rear ended me at a junction and wrote off my car 11th Sep 17 at 2:17 PM
    He was pretty unpleasant after it happened and didn't apologize or anything.

    I had to wait a few hours for an independent police person to arrive. He said he would breathalyse us both.

    I had already had several hours driving so after the waiting around on the roadside I was happy to just get away.

    The new policeman didn't breathalyse either of us and I've received a letter that they take full responsibility. They have covered the cost of the car.

    I haven't claimed for anything else even though I had bad whiplash for a week and it's still persisting 3 weeks later.

    I think the one that wrote off my car might have been over the limit. Is there anything I can do now? Did they follow prodecure by not breathalusing us?
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    • Stoke
    • By Stoke 13th Sep 17, 4:10 PM
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    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/03/the-shocking-truth-about-police-corruption-in-britain/

    Yikes......
    • ado
    • By ado 13th Sep 17, 5:28 PM
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    The MPS has 43000 staff so 73 being disciplined in a two year period is 0.08% per year, which is hardly endemic corruption or evidence of mass wrong doing despite the title of the article being 'the Shocking Truth about Police Corruption' but then what do you really expect from a DM journalist writing in the Spectator.
    • Stoke
    • By Stoke 14th Sep 17, 9:40 AM
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    Stoke
    The MPS has 43000 staff so 73 being disciplined in a two year period is 0.08% per year, which is hardly endemic corruption or evidence of mass wrong doing despite the title of the article being 'the Shocking Truth about Police Corruption' but then what do you really expect from a DM journalist writing in the Spectator.
    Originally posted by ado
    I think the point of the article is to suggest that the police are unwilling to regulate themselves. 73 have been disciplined because the others have been covered up.

    Dunna worry Sarge, we all get it.
    • Car 54
    • By Car 54 14th Sep 17, 10:15 AM
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    The MPS has 43000 staff so 73 being disciplined in a two year period is 0.08% per year, which is hardly endemic corruption or evidence of mass wrong doing despite the title of the article being 'the Shocking Truth about Police Corruption' but then what do you really expect from a DM journalist writing in the Spectator.
    Originally posted by ado
    The report actually says "the Met suspended 73 coppers, community support officers and other staff on corruption charges in the past two years.... Eleven were convicted in court, but what happened to the others? ... some were allowed to resign or retire (presumably with full pension rights) and some were dismissed."

    Suspended does not imply guilt, and it is not a punishment, simply a removal from duties while an investigation is held. So all we know for sure (assuming the report is accurate) is that 11 were convicted, and some of the remainding 62 were dismissed, some resigned or retired, and (presumably) some were exonerated.

    But that wouldn't have made for quite such a sensational article.
    • Stoke
    • By Stoke 14th Sep 17, 11:40 AM
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    The report actually says "the Met suspended 73 coppers, community support officers and other staff on corruption charges in the past two years.... Eleven were convicted in court, but what happened to the others? ... some were allowed to resign or retire (presumably with full pension rights) and some were dismissed."

    Suspended does not imply guilt, and it is not a punishment, simply a removal from duties while an investigation is held. So all we know for sure (assuming the report is accurate) is that 11 were convicted, and some of the remainding 62 were dismissed, some resigned or retired, and (presumably) some were exonerated.

    But that wouldn't have made for quite such a sensational article.
    Originally posted by Car 54
    And many of those not included in the statistics were covered up, whistleblowers intimidated etc.
    • Warwick Hunt
    • By Warwick Hunt 14th Sep 17, 5:15 PM
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    And many of those not included in the statistics were covered up, whistleblowers intimidated etc.
    Originally posted by Stoke
    Is that just a generalisation from reading the daily mail or are you basing it on something else?
    • Car 54
    • By Car 54 14th Sep 17, 5:57 PM
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    Car 54
    And many of those not included in the statistics were covered up, whistleblowers intimidated etc.
    Originally posted by Stoke
    Where is the evidence for that? The quoted article says: "Nearly half of 17,200 officers and staff surveyed said that if they discovered corruption among their colleagues and chose to report it, they didn’t believe their evidence would be treated in confidence and would fear ‘adverse consequences'"

    Note the words underlined. Not facts, but speculation.
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