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    • firely2327
    • By firely2327 10th Sep 17, 8:50 PM
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    Quote for small bathroom refurb very high?
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    • 10th Sep 17, 8:50 PM
    Quote for small bathroom refurb very high? 10th Sep 17 at 8:50 PM
    Got a plumber in for a quote for a remodel of my bathroom and not sure whether it's reasonable or not. Current bathroom has the following:
    bath with 200x200mm tiles above it to ceiling
    remainder of walls wood panel to top of cistern level, then paper (I know, paper!)
    vinyl flooring
    electric shower


    I want the following:
    remove and dispose of old wall coverings and bath and sink
    install corner shower tray and doors
    install new mixer shower fed off gas
    install new handbasin in corner of bathroom (can use old bath outlet pipes)
    tile all walls and floors
    install heated towel rail in place of current 'regular' rad


    Room is small 1.6*2.3m so total area max for tiling is 19msq
    He reckons 8 days work


    Apart from being ceramic we didn't discuss colour or anything else about the tiles, however I've got a quote from him for all materials, disposal and labour. How he can know the price of the tiles when I even haven't chosen is beyond me. All in it's just about £3k, nearly £2k of which if for the labour.


    Based on experiences of people on here, does this seem reasonable? Thoughts appreciated. Thanks
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    • Warwick Hunt
    • By Warwick Hunt 10th Sep 17, 8:59 PM
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    • 10th Sep 17, 8:59 PM
    Seems to be on the cheap side of cheap.
    • Marktheshark
    • By Marktheshark 10th Sep 17, 9:01 PM
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    It might be cheaper to get an electric power shower such as a mira or AKW, they are thermostatic as well so you dont scold when someone runs a tap down the street.
    Brexit will become whatever they invent it to be.
    • glasgowdan
    • By glasgowdan 10th Sep 17, 9:03 PM
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    • 10th Sep 17, 9:03 PM
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    • 10th Sep 17, 9:03 PM
    8 man days is probably about right, but that's £250/day per man, possibly including his assistant. Up to you if you want to pay that or not. Where in the country are you?
    • Marktheshark
    • By Marktheshark 10th Sep 17, 9:04 PM
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    • 10th Sep 17, 9:04 PM
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    • 10th Sep 17, 9:04 PM
    8 man days is probably about right, but that's £250/day per man, possibly including his assistant. Up to you if you want to pay that or not. Where in the country are you?
    Originally posted by glasgowdan
    You pay that an hour in a big city.
    Brexit will become whatever they invent it to be.
    • firely2327
    • By firely2327 10th Sep 17, 9:09 PM
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    • 10th Sep 17, 9:09 PM
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    • 10th Sep 17, 9:09 PM
    Wow, thanks for speedy reply guys. I'm in Manchester.


    Not going with electric shower, they are too expensive to run... I am fond of a long shower


    He wants to do the 8 days as a block too, which I'm not overly happy about. I work from home a bit and would like to do that in peace. Been toying with the idea of just getting the ripping out and plumbing aspect done, and deal with the tiling myself. I'm in no rush, to get it completed and I do like doing things myself where possible. I've not done any proper tiling before myself but reckon I can manage, I'm pretty handy at diy in general but I draw the line and jobs where I could flood the place or electrocute myself!
    • glasgowdan
    • By glasgowdan 10th Sep 17, 9:39 PM
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    • 10th Sep 17, 9:39 PM
    You pay that an hour in a big city.
    Originally posted by Marktheshark
    For a bathroom fitter? I doubt it. You know bathroom companies that charge £1500-2000/day per man?
    • Doozergirl
    • By Doozergirl 10th Sep 17, 11:00 PM
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    An average bathroom, well done is realistically around £5k.

    Labour is about right, materials are cheap. I'd spend more so you don't buy cheap, pay dear.
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    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 11th Sep 17, 12:02 AM
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    • 11th Sep 17, 12:02 AM
    It might be cheaper to get an electric power shower such as a mira or AKW, they are thermostatic as well so you dont scold when someone runs a tap down the street.
    Originally posted by Marktheshark
    Bet your neighbours love you, telling them off whenever they use their taps. I don't quite understand why owning a thermostatic shower would stop you scolding them though?
    • firely2327
    • By firely2327 11th Sep 17, 7:05 AM
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    Labour is about right, materials are cheap. I'd spend more so you don't buy cheap, pay dear.
    Originally posted by Doozergirl


    Thanks, I agree on the materials side. I've already been to choose my own tiles since. He'd never bring in the materials at what he said with my chosen tiles, even with his trade discount.
    • kinger101
    • By kinger101 11th Sep 17, 11:50 AM
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    Labour sounds right. £250 a day is a fairly standard rate. Though he should have discussed tiles with you because smaller tiles will be a lot more work than larger ones. I'd be inclined to spend for a higher spec if I could. Particularly for things like thermostatic mixers.
    • trailingspouse
    • By trailingspouse 11th Sep 17, 2:29 PM
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    For materials, I think he may be meaning all the consumables - grout, sealant, tile spacers, piping, etc etc etc?

    When we had our bathrooms done, we sourced the 'pretty' stuff ourselves, and our plumber sourced everything else. He charges £150 per day for labour, and took 3 weeks for the main bathroom (very large, with a complicated tiling design on the floor) including removal of the old bathroom, repositioning the toilet and soil pipe, plastering and tiling.

    At the end of the day if you think the quote is too high, get other quotes.
    • MagicMoneyTree
    • By MagicMoneyTree 11th Sep 17, 2:32 PM
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    I've used Mybuilder.com extensively in the past for jobs like this. I post the requirement and gather around 4-5 quotes, then go with the best ratio of good reviews to reasonable price. The fact you can review them when the work is complete tends to keep them accountable and honest.
    • phill99
    • By phill99 11th Sep 17, 6:23 PM
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    I run property maintenance company and major on bathrooms and kitchens.
    I wouldn't take this job on unless it was a block of 8 days. If you want him off site for a couple of days, he will probably not have other work to go too. So realistically you are messing him around.


    You need to get other quotes.
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    • Cisco001
    • By Cisco001 12th Sep 17, 12:11 PM
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    To save labour, you can consider bathroom wall panel.
    Last edited by Cisco001; 12-09-2017 at 4:07 PM.
    • macman
    • By macman 12th Sep 17, 1:00 PM
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    So you are proposing to install the shower, and then tile it? That's the wrong way around: the enclosure should be fitted onto the tiles.
    And, in the interim period, your walls are going to get waterlogged, should you want to have a shower.
    Time is money, and expecting someone to split it into 2 or 3 sessions for no good reason is just daft: he'd have to move all his tools in and out, face delayed payment, etc.
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    • By Nile 13th Sep 17, 10:32 AM
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    Hi, we move threads if we think they’ll get more help elsewhere (please read the forum rule) so this post/thread has been moved to another board. If you have any questions about this policy please email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com.

    I’ve moved your thread from the 'In my home' board to the ‘Is This Quote Fair?’ board, where it is better suited.

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