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    • Rock_007
    • By Rock_007 10th Sep 17, 6:23 PM
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    Cooker circuit- legal requirements
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    • 10th Sep 17, 6:23 PM
    Cooker circuit- legal requirements 10th Sep 17 at 6:23 PM
    Hi, i have recently opened up the cooker switch just to check the fuse rating as i am looking to buy a new cooker. when i saw the wires there is some thing wired i found and i am not sure if it is legally correct.
    I can see three cable coming direct from the fuse box but at the same time i can see two cables(3 cable inside each) going into the switch back holes,one feeding to the exhaust fanand the other going to the garage.

    Is it legally allowed as i have heard that cooker circuit should be separated and coming from the main supplying nothing else should be connected to it.

    much appreciated any advise and comments.



    The screwdriver trip is showing the one coming from the main supply fuse and the other two white is feeding from here.
    Last edited by Rock_007; 10-09-2017 at 6:45 PM.
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    • Warwick Hunt
    • By Warwick Hunt 10th Sep 17, 6:49 PM
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    • 10th Sep 17, 6:49 PM
    It looks like a bodge job but then I guess you won't mind given your other thread.

    It's good to see you're using an insulated screwdriver and have missed the unsleeved earth.
    • Rock_007
    • By Rock_007 10th Sep 17, 7:10 PM
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    • 10th Sep 17, 7:10 PM
    The reason i am asking if it needs to be changed and if separate cable should have laid for other two circuits from the main supply fuse.
    • decbel
    • By decbel 10th Sep 17, 7:17 PM
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    • 10th Sep 17, 7:17 PM
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    • 10th Sep 17, 7:17 PM
    The cooker needs its own circuit.

    Having said that if anything was going to happen it would already have happened.

    New cooker-different ball game.
    • Owain Moneysaver
    • By Owain Moneysaver 10th Sep 17, 7:59 PM
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    • 10th Sep 17, 7:59 PM
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    • 10th Sep 17, 7:59 PM
    Holy heck that's rough.

    Back box not plastered in properly.
    Unsleeved earth (okay that's normal until about 1974 but should have been corrected when the newer cables were put in)
    No grommets on back box
    Not sure the thin white cable (might even be flex) has its earth connected to anything
    The fan is almost certainly unsuitable for direct connection to a 30 amp cooker supply and must be fused down to 3 amp
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    • Risteard
    • By Risteard 10th Sep 17, 8:18 PM
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    • 10th Sep 17, 8:18 PM
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    • 10th Sep 17, 8:18 PM
    Complete and utter rubbish. Have the electrical installation inspected and tested as required periodically by BS7671.
    • Rock_007
    • By Rock_007 10th Sep 17, 8:31 PM
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    • 10th Sep 17, 8:31 PM
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    • 10th Sep 17, 8:31 PM
    I am not aware about BS7671. i bought the house not very long ago so i haven't got any record before that but i am sure last owner hasn't done any check looking into the cables!
    Last edited by Rock_007; 10-09-2017 at 8:41 PM.
    • Warwick Hunt
    • By Warwick Hunt 10th Sep 17, 8:40 PM
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    • 10th Sep 17, 8:40 PM
    I am not aware about BS7671. i bought the house not very long ago so i haven't got any record before that but i am sure he hasn't done any check looking into the cables!
    Originally posted by Rock_007
    It's all contained here. https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/BK1717slash3.html?ad_position=1t1&source=adwords&a d_id=102933702797&placement=&kw=bs7671&network=g&m atchtype=e&ad_type=&product_id=&product_partition_ id=&test=finalurl_v2&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIq5Tuoq-b1gIVirvtCh0SMgFmEAAYASAAEgJ4OfD_BwE
    • FreeBear
    • By FreeBear 10th Sep 17, 9:27 PM
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    • 10th Sep 17, 9:27 PM
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    • 10th Sep 17, 9:27 PM
    Agree with other posters regarding the quality of work - In addition, the cooker switch isn't doing anything. The "mains in" wires share the same holes as the "mains out" and no sign of cable for a cooker.

    The cable colours indicate that the wiring was done before 2004, and that white cable looks as if it has paint on it (reused cable perhaps ?). The whole house needs to be checked by a qualified electrician and you need to seriously consider budgeting for a rewire.
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    • no1catman
    • By no1catman 10th Sep 17, 9:50 PM
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    Is the 'cooker' gas or electric? Might make a difference!

    I have a gas cooker, but it is electric also for ignition, and the oven fan.
    My I moved in about ten years ago, had an electrical inspection done (recommended by the BS) - no mention of the socket. However, when I was having restoration work done on the wall after a water pipe leak, they said it wasn't up to current standards. It had a socket in which the cooker & extractor hood plugs went into.
    Now they are both wired into a fuse socket.
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    • Rock_007
    • By Rock_007 17th Sep 17, 11:57 AM
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    The Cooker is duel fuel and is 13A fue in the switch for cooker.

    I have shown to some electrician and at this point i will just disconnect the Garage and Fan from that switch and just keep the connection for the Cooker.
    As after disconnecting the Fan we will left with no Fan in Kitchen , just the window and the door i think it should be okay as i have not seen any where in building regulation that fan is a must for Kitchen!!
    • Ectophile
    • By Ectophile 17th Sep 17, 12:15 PM
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    If you want to keep the fan, a simple fused connection unit (FCU) with a 3 amp fuse would make it safe.
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
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