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    • cook0891
    • By cook0891 8th Sep 17, 6:34 PM
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    Governor work whilst being off sick
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    • 8th Sep 17, 6:34 PM
    Governor work whilst being off sick 8th Sep 17 at 6:34 PM
    Hi,

    I have been signed off from work for two weeks with depression/anxiety. During this time I am due to attend school governor meetings in my role as a parent governor. I didn't think this would be an issue but a family member questioned if I should go as I am not well enough to go work but ok to go school meetings. I must stress the main reason I am off is linked to work so I want to keep busy and take my mind off it and not go mad by sitting at home on my own.

    Has anyone else had experience like this, would you recommend going or not? Could work contact the school to see if I have gone?

    Thanks in advance.
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    • lincroft1710
    • By lincroft1710 8th Sep 17, 7:44 PM
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    If there is any possibility that the sg meetings could cause you anxiety or depression then clearly you should not go.
    • cook0891
    • By cook0891 8th Sep 17, 8:23 PM
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    • 8th Sep 17, 8:23 PM
    If there is any possibility that the sg meetings could cause you anxiety or depression then clearly you should not go.
    Originally posted by lincroft1710
    Thanks for the reply.

    To be honest it isn't the school which is causing me any issues, if anything has helped take mind off work. I meant more from the point of could work say 'if well enough to go there then well enough to come work'
    • Takeaway_Addict
    • By Takeaway_Addict 8th Sep 17, 10:15 PM
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    Thanks for the reply.

    To be honest it isn't the school which is causing me any issues, if anything has helped take mind off work. I meant more from the point of could work say 'if well enough to go there then well enough to come work'
    Originally posted by cook0891
    It wouldn't look good ultimately but there probably is little the employer could do about it as presumably it is out of work hours.
    Don't trust a forum for advice. Get proper paid advice. Any advice given should always be checked
    • cook0891
    • By cook0891 9th Sep 17, 8:55 AM
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    • 9th Sep 17, 8:55 AM
    It wouldn't look good ultimately but there probably is little the employer could do about it as presumably it is out of work hours.
    Originally posted by Takeaway_Addict
    There are two meetings coming up which are day time which they give me time off for. In one way I think looks bad but then think need to keep busy and school work isn't the factor which making me bad.
    • Alter ego
    • By Alter ego 9th Sep 17, 9:08 AM
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    If work are aware of your problems (with them) they would probably welcome an excuse to get rid of you.
    Ignore me if you like, it's not the real me anyway.
    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 9th Sep 17, 9:20 AM
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    You should have got your Dr. to sign you of only your normal work but allow this other job to continue.
    • ohreally
    • By ohreally 9th Sep 17, 9:58 AM
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    I'd stay away.

    Its unlikely any good would come of this.
    • General Grant
    • By General Grant 9th Sep 17, 11:54 AM
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    Hi,

    I have been signed off from work for two weeks with depression/anxiety. During this time I am due to attend school governor meetings in my role as a parent governor. I didn't think this would be an issue but a family member questioned if I should go as I am not well enough to go work but ok to go school meetings. I must stress the main reason I am off is linked to work so I want to keep busy and take my mind off it and not go mad by sitting at home on my own.

    Has anyone else had experience like this, would you recommend going or not? Could work contact the school to see if I have gone?

    Thanks in advance.
    Originally posted by cook0891
    In the paid work you do is there anything which matches what you do by attending a school governors' meeting?

    Does the school publish the minutes of governors' meetings - say on their website? If not, I don't see that the school should tell someone phoning up whether or not a particular governor had attended a meeting.

    Have you received the papers for the meeting? Instead of attending are you able to make a written submission via the chair or clerk?
    • cook0891
    • By cook0891 9th Sep 17, 11:57 AM
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    s

    In the paid work you do is there anything which matches what you do by attending a school governors' meeting?

    Does the school publish the minutes of governors' meetings - say on their website? If not, I don't see that the school should tell someone phoning up whether or not a particular governor had attended a meeting.

    Have you received the papers for the meeting? Instead of attending are you able to make a written submission via the chair or clerk?
    Originally posted by General Grant
    Thanks for the reply.

    No, it is differnt type of work. Also they don't publish the minutes. I have received the papers but the first one is a DTI meeting so really need to be there in person.
    • Cheeky_Monkey
    • By Cheeky_Monkey 9th Sep 17, 12:30 PM
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    As you are only a parent governor, there's no need for you to be there at all.

    Your depression/anxiety appears to be 'selective'.
    • anamenottaken
    • By anamenottaken 9th Sep 17, 12:45 PM
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    As you are only a parent governor, there's no need for you to be there at all.

    Your depression/anxiety appears to be 'selective'.
    Originally posted by Cheeky_Monkey

    Parent governors have as much need to attend meetings as any other governor.
    • Cheeky_Monkey
    • By Cheeky_Monkey 9th Sep 17, 1:33 PM
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    Parent governors have as much need to attend meetings as any other governor.
    Originally posted by anamenottaken
    But presumably not when they are off sick from work with 'depression'. If they are too ill to attend work, I fail to see how they can be well enough to attend the meeting.

    Depression is not something you can turn on and off like a tap when it suits you.
    • TELLIT01
    • By TELLIT01 9th Sep 17, 1:49 PM
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    I'm certainly no expert on mental health issues. All I can say is that when I worked at DWP stress, anxiety and depression seemed to be used almost at random by many GPs. By that I mean that one med cert would have depression, then next stress, the next any combination of the above and all for the same person.
    Purely on that basis I would suggest it's not a good idea to attend any meeting which your employer might consider stressful, and I presume there are differences of opinion expressed at these meetings. They may well ask the question of "You can attend the governor meeting but not come to work, why not?"
    The only caveat would be if the medical certificate actually stated 'Work related stress'.
    • Undervalued
    • By Undervalued 9th Sep 17, 3:22 PM
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    I'm certainly no expert on mental health issues. All I can say is that when I worked at DWP stress, anxiety and depression seemed to be used almost at random by many GPs. By that I mean that one med cert would have depression, then next stress, the next any combination of the above and all for the same person.
    Purely on that basis I would suggest it's not a good idea to attend any meeting which your employer might consider stressful, and I presume there are differences of opinion expressed at these meetings. They may well ask the question of "You can attend the governor meeting but not come to work, why not?"
    The only caveat would be if the medical certificate actually stated 'Work related stress'.
    Originally posted by TELLIT01
    Even then as any employment lawyer will tell you, a GP is not generally able to certify the cause of somebody's illness. He is able to certify them as ill based on what he sees but he has no first hand knowledge as to the cause. Apart from what the patient tells him for all the doctor knows the work situation could be idyllic and problems are actually personal.

    To answer the original question. Yes, in theory the OP is quite entitled to attend the meeting but there is obvious scope for the employer to "misinterpret" if they have that mindset.
    • TELLIT01
    • By TELLIT01 9th Sep 17, 5:13 PM
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    a GP is not generally able to certify the cause of somebody's illness.
    Originally posted by Undervalued
    Dunno about that. I saw plenty of medical certificates with Work Related Stress as the incapacity when working on ESA.
    • Undervalued
    • By Undervalued 9th Sep 17, 5:29 PM
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    Dunno about that. I saw plenty of medical certificates with Work Related Stress as the incapacity when working on ESA.
    Originally posted by TELLIT01
    Yes they commonly write it, probably with the best of intentions and it can often be helpful to the employee!

    However if a dispute ends up at an employment tribunal it is very easy for the employer's lawyer to challenge the "work related" part of the diagnosis for the reasons I have given.
    • McKneff
    • By McKneff 9th Sep 17, 7:57 PM
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    Stay at home and get an up date from whoever takes the minutes etc.

    Surely it could happen that a bout of depression could start at any time even during a meeting .
    No one can make you feel inferior without your consent
    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 9th Sep 17, 9:32 PM
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    Last I was a parent governor (at least 5 years ago), we were taught as part of the training that it is a public office & that the minutes are open to anyone asking.

    If you think work will check, notice, or comment, then probably better not to go unless you feel you utterly must and then relapse in some way after.
    I don't really want to contemplate how that might work with depression, but you didn't become a governor just for the gossip. I do see you may feel you ought to as well as wanting to. Just please be careful with yourself?

    I absolutely get the 'not go mad with boredom' bit, but this is where something like learning a language on line (memrise, duolingo etc) might step up instead - you get to set the pace & you get to feel the benefits (or not). You can then watch movies etc in foreign languages on YouTube, or old favourites redubbed. (My German emerged for a few minutes watching Star Wars in German, many years ago. It's slid back to Achtung & Nein since.)

    All the best to you & your school, whichever way you decide to go.
    • shortcrust
    • By shortcrust 9th Sep 17, 10:30 PM
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    I'm amazed by some of these responses given that this is 2017. The only question the OP should be worrying about is whether they want to go, not whether they should.

    Getting out and about, taking part in things, meeting people, boosting your confidence etc are all things you should be doing when you're signed off with depression and/or anxiety.

    You don't have to stay home feeling glum when you have mental health problems. When I've had staff off in similar circumstances I've made it clear they shouldn't feel they can't get out and about if they want to. I've had staff come to Christmas parties when they've been off with depression.
    Last edited by shortcrust; 09-09-2017 at 10:33 PM.
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