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    • Jas_Ramsden
    • By Jas_Ramsden 8th Sep 17, 4:43 PM
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    Flea treatment that doesn't wok!
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    • 8th Sep 17, 4:43 PM
    Flea treatment that doesn't wok! 8th Sep 17 at 4:43 PM
    Afternoon all,

    Hopefully someone can point us in the right direction but we used to by flea drops called 'Advocate' which worked fine. Our vets stated that they no longer stock this and that they now use 'Prinovox'.

    Long story short...it doesn't work!

    I've spoken to the vets this afternoon and they have no solution other than try something else. It's expensive stuff at £45 for a tiny tube that doesn't work. I've stated that it hasn't worked and would like a refund which they are against as it has been used...obviously, it had to be used for us to find out it didn't work?

    Any ideas where I stand with this?
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    • anna42hmr
    • By anna42hmr 8th Sep 17, 6:21 PM
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    • 8th Sep 17, 6:21 PM
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    • 8th Sep 17, 6:21 PM
    Afternoon all,

    Hopefully someone can point us in the right direction but we used to by flea drops called 'Advocate' which worked fine. Our vets stated that they no longer stock this and that they now use 'Prinovox'.

    Long story short...it doesn't work!

    I've spoken to the vets this afternoon and they have no solution other than try something else. It's expensive stuff at £45 for a tiny tube that doesn't work. I've stated that it hasn't worked and would like a refund which they are against as it has been used...obviously, it had to be used for us to find out it didn't work?

    Any ideas where I stand with this?
    Originally posted by Jas_Ramsden
    if the vets don't stock it would they be prepared to issue a prescription for it instead and then you can buy it via an online stockist? (i've ordered from vetuk.co.uk before (not for this product but another prescription only product ). Otherwise you may wish to consider moving vets to one that will supply what you find works for you.
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    • Shoshannah
    • By Shoshannah 8th Sep 17, 7:22 PM
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    • 8th Sep 17, 7:22 PM
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    • 8th Sep 17, 7:22 PM
    Advocate and Prinovox are literally the same thing under different brand names, so it's puzzling to think why one would work and one would not.

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    In what way has the Prinovox not appeared to work?

    Seeing fleas on treated animals is not unusual in that fleas have to jump onto the pet in order to be exposed to the treatment, so simply seeing fleas on a treated animal is not necessarily a sign of treatment failure.
    • Merlin's Beard
    • By Merlin's Beard 8th Sep 17, 7:31 PM
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    • 8th Sep 17, 7:31 PM
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    • 8th Sep 17, 7:31 PM
    Prinovox is imadocloprid and moxidectin.

    Advocate is imadacloprid and moxidectin.

    (Both in the same concentrations for each respective dose size)

    I think you're going to find it difficult to argue that imadacloprid/moxidectin packaged as the 'famous' brand is more effective than exactly the same thing from another well known company, because it's very similar to going back to your pharmacist and telling them that 200mg of ibuprofen doesn't work because the box says "Calpol" and not "Nurofen".

    You might find that your vet is willing to order in advocate instead of prinovox, though, or write you a prescription (factor in the charge for this when adding up costs), but if you think imadacloprid/moxidectin isn't working any more I can see why they offered you something with different ingredients rather immediately suggesting Advocate again - the same thing in a different box! If the combo isn't working any more, you might be better off trying something that isn't those drugs.
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    • OldMotherTucker
    • By OldMotherTucker 23rd Sep 17, 12:40 AM
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    • 23rd Sep 17, 12:40 AM
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    • 23rd Sep 17, 12:40 AM
    I switched back from Advocate to frontline 2 months ago but found that ineffective. I complained to PAH and was told to use Frontline plus . . my 3 cats are still jumping with fleas and it's driving me mad . . any suggestions?
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    • sheramber
    • By sheramber 23rd Sep 17, 7:04 PM
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    • 23rd Sep 17, 7:04 PM
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    • 23rd Sep 17, 7:04 PM
    Why did you switch from Advocate?

    If your cats go outdoors they could be picking them up again.

    Fle eggs, larvae can lie dormant for months before hatching out. So they could be getting reinfected from those hatching out in crevices, carpets, cushions etc. You would need to treat the house with a long lasting spray such Acclaim or Indorex. Read the instructions carefully to ensure it is suitable for you to use.
    • marty2be2000
    • By marty2be2000 24th Sep 17, 2:52 PM
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    • 24th Sep 17, 2:52 PM
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    • 24th Sep 17, 2:52 PM
    My vet used Bravecto on my cat when she picked up fleas, they were all dead in 24 hours.

    She went from constantly scratching and nibbling her fur to normal almost overnight.

    Bravecto is prescription only, and not an over the counter treatment.
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