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    • jaymoe
    • By jaymoe 7th Sep 17, 9:00 PM
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    Working time directive for part time work
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    • 7th Sep 17, 9:00 PM
    Working time directive for part time work 7th Sep 17 at 9:00 PM
    My wife has started working part time and has been given her shifts for the week. Friday she is doing 17:00 until 21:00 and then Saturday she starts 07:00 until 15:00 and Sunday 08:00 until 16:00.
    Under the working time directive isnt she only allowed to start at 8am on the Saturday due to the 11 hour rule?
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    • ohreally
    • By ohreally 7th Sep 17, 9:07 PM
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    Under the working time directive isnt she only allowed to start at 8am on the Saturday due to the 11 hour rule?
    Originally posted by jaymoe
    No........
    • jaymoe
    • By jaymoe 7th Sep 17, 9:08 PM
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    • 7th Sep 17, 9:08 PM
    OK, is that due to her being part time?
    • ohreally
    • By ohreally 7th Sep 17, 9:11 PM
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    There is provision in the regs to look at a reference period, 17 weeks, or as agreed with unions.

    This is unlikely to be due to part time status.

    Assumes she is over 18 and not in an excluded sector.
    Last edited by ohreally; 07-09-2017 at 9:15 PM.
    • leslieknope
    • By leslieknope 7th Sep 17, 9:24 PM
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    • 7th Sep 17, 9:24 PM
    what sector is she working in?
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    • jaymoe
    • By jaymoe 7th Sep 17, 9:25 PM
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    • 7th Sep 17, 9:25 PM
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    • 7th Sep 17, 9:25 PM
    Its only a supermarket position.
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 8th Sep 17, 9:00 AM
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    • 8th Sep 17, 9:00 AM
    If she doesn't want to work those hours I'm sure somebody else will be happy to take her job.
    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 8th Sep 17, 9:55 AM
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    The spirit of the Working Time Directive is to stop abuse by employers who work workers into the ground getting them to work 80-120 hours/week, 15-16 hour shifts for 7 days without a break etc etc....

    It's about ensuring that workers have "enough down time" around working hours.

    As she already only works part-time it wouldn't be "in the spirit" of the WTD in any case. As a part-timer she's got plenty of time off during the week - and that's the sort of problem the Act was trying to assist workers with.

    If I were the employer and she said "hey, want more time between shifts here" I'd simply drop her from one shift as I'd think she's a bit lightweight on the work ethics.... then, over time, just not get round to giving her any shifts ...
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    • By Takeaway_Addict 8th Sep 17, 9:56 AM
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    • 8th Sep 17, 9:56 AM
    My wife has started working part time and has been given her shifts for the week. Friday she is doing 17:00 until 21:00 and then Saturday she starts 07:00 until 15:00 and Sunday 08:00 until 16:00.
    Under the working time directive isnt she only allowed to start at 8am on the Saturday due to the 11 hour rule?
    Originally posted by jaymoe
    Seriously?
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    • jaymoe
    • By jaymoe 8th Sep 17, 12:12 PM
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    Thank you for your input. If you know anyone let me know and I'll get her to stand aside. I was just querying as I didn't think it was allowed. Your help was appreciated.
    • jaymoe
    • By jaymoe 8th Sep 17, 12:13 PM
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    Why would I joke. This is a very serious situation. Was your "seriously" reply a) necessary and b) serious?
    • jaymoe
    • By jaymoe 8th Sep 17, 12:14 PM
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    I did think the same thing but the gap in between Friday evening and Saturday I wasn't sure if that was allowed. Thanks for clearing it up for me.
    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 8th Sep 17, 1:07 PM
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    There is provision in the regs to look at a reference period, 17 weeks, or as agreed with unions.

    This is unlikely to be due to part time status.

    Assumes she is over 18 and not in an excluded sector.
    Originally posted by ohreally
    That only applies to the 48hr limit not to breaks.

    There are provisions in the regs for compensatory breaks in some sectors.

    Those shift would break WTR if not an excluded sector.
    • steampowered
    • By steampowered 8th Sep 17, 1:32 PM
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    Regulation 10 of the Working Time Regulations 1998 states as follows:

    Daily rest
    10.—(1) An adult worker is entitled to a rest period of not less than eleven consecutive hours in each 24-hour period during which he works for his employer.
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 8th Sep 17, 1:38 PM
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    Regulation 10 of the Working Time Regulations 1998 states as follows:

    Daily rest
    10.—(1) An adult worker is entitled to a rest period of not less than eleven consecutive hours in each 24-hour period during which he works for his employer.
    Originally posted by steampowered
    So that's OK then, in the 24 hours starting at 17:00 on Friday she works for 12 hours, and therefore has 12 hours rest.
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