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    • Cjesq
    • By Cjesq 7th Sep 17, 7:18 PM
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    ANPR didn't park ?
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    • 7th Sep 17, 7:18 PM
    ANPR didn't park ? 7th Sep 17 at 7:18 PM
    Hi and thanks in advance ..
    I used my ex Mrs car for a trip with the kids to Plymouth to see the fireworks display
    It was very very busy . Entered lamb hay car park . There were no spaces . We stayed with the car . Not in a space as everyone was taken.. my ex just received a letter demanding money. This is the first she received even though it states discount period expired. The company is brittania. Where do I stand . Any advice thank you for. Just cannot afford this at the moment and she is worried that it can affect her credit rating also ?

    Cj
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    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 7th Sep 17, 7:24 PM
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    • 7th Sep 17, 7:24 PM
    Everyone is politely asked not to start a new thread until after reading up on the issue in the newbies faq thread near/at the top of the forum. It has the appeal to use; Britannia are easy to beat.

    All your queries are answered there! Two clicks back, where you clicked 'NEW THREAD'.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • fisherjim
    • By fisherjim 7th Sep 17, 7:29 PM
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    • 7th Sep 17, 7:29 PM
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    • 7th Sep 17, 7:29 PM
    Hi and thanks in advance ..
    I used my ex Mrs car for a trip with the kids to Plymouth to see the fireworks display
    It was very very busy . Entered lamb hay car park . There were no spaces . We stayed with the car . Not in a space as everyone was taken.. my ex just received a letter demanding money. This is the first she received even though it states discount period expired. The company is brittania. Where do I stand . Any advice thank you for. Just cannot afford this at the moment and she is worried that it can affect her credit rating also ?

    Cj
    Originally posted by Cjesq
    Follow CM's advice you won't get better, but what do you mean; "We stayed with the car . Not in a space as everyone was taken"
    For goodness sale don't try that urban myth!

    Your credit rating is safe there are no automatic black marks for getting an invoice from silly scammers!
    Last edited by fisherjim; 07-09-2017 at 7:32 PM.
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    • Redx
    • By Redx 7th Sep 17, 8:16 PM
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    • 7th Sep 17, 8:16 PM
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    • 7th Sep 17, 8:16 PM
    "you" dont stand anywhere, as you are not the person that received the paperwork and "YOU" are not named on it either

    the keeper (named on that paperwork) should follow the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread at the top of this forum
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • Fruitcake
    • By Fruitcake 7th Sep 17, 9:50 PM
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    • 7th Sep 17, 9:50 PM
    Hi and thanks in advance ..
    I used my ex Mrs car for a trip with the kids to Plymouth to see the fireworks display
    It was very very busy . Entered lamb hay car park . There were no spaces . We stayed with the car . Not in a space as everyone was taken.. my ex just received a letter demanding money. This is the first she received even though it states discount period expired. The company is brittania. Where do I stand . Any advice thank you for. Just cannot afford this at the moment and she is worried that it can affect her credit rating also ?

    Cj
    Originally posted by Cjesq
    That's called parking.

    As advised, this is now in the hands of the vehicle keeper. They can either appeal this as per the NEWBIES thread, or name the driver. If they do the latter, it is much harder for the driver to beat than the keeper, but not impossible.
    Ideally you want your ex to appeal as keeper and not name the driver.
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    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 8th Sep 17, 12:51 PM
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    • 8th Sep 17, 12:51 PM
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    • 8th Sep 17, 12:51 PM
    When you sat that you did not park, do you mean you drove around all the time? If not, you parked, but read this.


    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/waiting-for-space-is-not-parking.html
    Last edited by The Deep; 08-09-2017 at 12:54 PM.
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    • Cjesq
    • By Cjesq 8th Sep 17, 3:09 PM
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    • 8th Sep 17, 3:09 PM
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    • 8th Sep 17, 3:09 PM
    Thanks for all who replied. I will read the thread as instructed.
    • Cjesq
    • By Cjesq 8th Sep 17, 3:37 PM
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    • 8th Sep 17, 3:37 PM
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    • 8th Sep 17, 3:37 PM
    Hi . I looked at the thread
    .so this was an Anpr from a bpa company brittania so the letter template is this one ....?

    Dear Sirs

    Re: PCN No. ....................

    I challenge this 'PCN' as keeper of the car.

    I believe that your signs fail the test of 'large lettering' and prominence, as established in!ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis.!Your unremarkable and obscure signs were not seen by the driver, are in very small print and the terms are not readable to drivers.

    There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. You must either rely on the POFA 2012 and offer me a POPLA code, or cancel the charge.!

    Should you obtain the registered keeper's data from the DVLA without reasonable cause, please take this as formal notice that I reserve the right to sue your company and the landowner/principal, for a sum not less than £250 for any Data Protection Act breach. Your aggressive business practice and unwarranted threat of court for the ordinary matter of a driver using my car without causing any obstruction nor offence, has caused significant distress to me.!

    I do not give you consent to process data relating to me or this vehicle. I deny liability for any sum at all and you must consider this letter a Section 10 Notice under the DPA. You are required to respond within 21 days. I have kept proof of submission of this appeal and look forward to your reply.

    Yours faithfully,


    Am also a bit confused as I read the other link earlier on thread .. the truth is we didn't park.. the car park was stacked full for hhe fireworks night . J and possibly four other cars were waiting for spaces..
    I also realise that this may not and does not matter with reference to the template letter..
    Thanks again
    New to this so forgive my ignorance .
    • Cjesq
    • By Cjesq 8th Sep 17, 3:39 PM
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    • 8th Sep 17, 3:39 PM
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    • 8th Sep 17, 3:39 PM
    And do I need to speak with brittania to let them know anything .. this is the first letter received but they saying second .
    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 8th Sep 17, 3:44 PM
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    No. Never speak to the PPC!


    The keeper should be sending the appeal, not you, and the keeper should have received all other correspondence, not you!
    • Cjesq
    • By Cjesq 8th Sep 17, 4:54 PM
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    Yes.. all good . Will send as the keeper . Her email etc
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