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    • immuno
    • By immuno 6th Sep 17, 6:44 PM
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    Hi guys,

    Does anyone on here post videos on Youtube? Do you find it worth it in terms of the money? I know that people often have to post regularly for quite some time in order to start generating income. I've had a look at the figures on Social Blade, but do people often earn somewhere in the middle..? For example, it often says £100-2k, which is quite a difference!
    I'm aware of Adsense and partnerships, etc...just wondering how long it'll take to make a reasonable amount of profit (eg. £300/month), by posting only once a week or so.

    thanks
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    • Flyonthewall
    • By Flyonthewall 6th Sep 17, 7:04 PM
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    Hi guys,

    Does anyone on here post videos on Youtube? Do you find it worth it in terms of the money? I know that people often have to post regularly for quite some time in order to start generating income. I've had a look at the figures on Social Blade, but do people often earn somewhere in the middle..? For example, it often says £100-2k, which is quite a difference!
    I'm aware of Adsense and partnerships, etc...just wondering how long it'll take to make a reasonable amount of profit (eg. £300/month), by posting only once a week or so.

    thanks
    Originally posted by immuno
    There is no set amount of time things will happen in or money you can make.

    For example, you and someone else could both film a video of a cute labrador puppy running along. One could go viral and the other could struggle to get 10 views.

    Or you could film a vlog of you going to a local event and someone else could do the same. One may get 10 views and 10 subs who then continue to watch later videos (and build their channel up from there) and the other could get 1000 views, but no subs and no one who viewed that coming back to watch later videos.

    If you have a lot of people to share the video with on social media you're more likely to get views (and money), but overall you need content that people want to watch and to build up an audience. That content could be anything.

    Money is now made from Adsense and sponsors rather than partnerships. You'll only get sponsors once you're getting a good amount of views though and adsense is likely to be low, but you'll get more for some videos that others (based on views and the specific ads they show).

    If you've got video ideas and it's something you want to do then go for it. Have fun making videos and any money is then a bonus. If you're just looking to make money you may struggle.
    • Beartricks
    • By Beartricks 6th Sep 17, 7:09 PM
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    Depends what you want to make videos on.

    The people who make a lot of money on Youtube seem to be lifestyle vloggers, daily adventure/travel vloggers, video gamers and tech reviews. This is generally simple stuff done well with very high production values.

    These generally dictate what sells and how much people get paid. The main problem with Youtube in my opinion, is that it's extremely populist and the niche video makers don't have a lot of opportunity to make money. I follow a lot of skilled craftsmen and artists who are arguably putting out more meaningful and interesting content with a high overhead but aren't making any money because Youtube decide payment rates based on the people who are getting millions of views just filming themselves walking round all day.

    You'd have to pick a topic, do it very well and spend a lot more time on it than you expect.

    Did you have a theme in mind?
    • immuno
    • By immuno 6th Sep 17, 7:25 PM
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    Depends what you want to make videos on.

    The people who make a lot of money on Youtube seem to be lifestyle vloggers, daily adventure/travel vloggers, video gamers and tech reviews. This is generally simple stuff done well with very high production values.

    These generally dictate what sells and how much people get paid. The main problem with Youtube in my opinion, is that it's extremely populist and the niche video makers don't have a lot of opportunity to make money. I follow a lot of skilled craftsmen and artists who are arguably putting out more meaningful and interesting content with a high overhead but aren't making any money because Youtube decide payment rates based on the people who are getting millions of views just filming themselves walking round all day.

    You'd have to pick a topic, do it very well and spend a lot more time on it than you expect.

    Did you have a theme in mind?
    Originally posted by Beartricks
    Yeah, I agree.

    I just wasn't sure how accurate Social Blade is, and whether it's normally somewhere in the middle?

    My particular interest might be slightly less popular, as it doesn't involve gaming, pranks or daily vlogging...I was thinking of having a health (but not beauty) channel, talking mostly about holistic medicine, healing your gut, etc...as that's my passion. I was also interested in doing it together with my partner, but perhaps not always both appearing in videos..not sure how that could come across, though. Ie. sometimes she'll film, sometimes I will, but mostly together.

    I am also not sure of the likelihood of someone from my work discovering my channel by chance..probably slim? This is what is mostly deterring me from pursuing it.

    Thanks!
    • immuno
    • By immuno 6th Sep 17, 7:27 PM
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    Am I correct in thinking that US Youtubers get a lot more views?
    • Flyonthewall
    • By Flyonthewall 6th Sep 17, 8:40 PM
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    Yeah, I agree.

    I just wasn't sure how accurate Social Blade is, and whether it's normally somewhere in the middle?

    My particular interest might be slightly less popular, as it doesn't involve gaming, pranks or daily vlogging...I was thinking of having a health (but not beauty) channel, talking mostly about holistic medicine, healing your gut, etc...as that's my passion. I was also interested in doing it together with my partner, but perhaps not always both appearing in videos..not sure how that could come across, though. Ie. sometimes she'll film, sometimes I will, but mostly together.

    I am also not sure of the likelihood of someone from my work discovering my channel by chance..probably slim? This is what is mostly deterring me from pursuing it.

    Thanks!
    Originally posted by immuno
    Social Blade will most likely be making assumptions and giving a general idea of what is possible. The 2K will include those with millions of subscribers, but even some with millions of subs will get 1K or less due to video content.

    There are plenty of channels with couples. It's fine if only one of you appears in some videos. If you always did videos together for years and then one day just one of you did a video alone you may get questions, but if doing some alone from the start people are unlikely to think anything of it.

    It's always possible someone could find your videos, especially if your channel starts to grow. Does it matter though? Unless it conflicts with your job and could cause issues, if you enjoy it then why not do it?

    Am I correct in thinking that US Youtubers get a lot more views?
    Originally posted by immuno
    No, there are a number of Youtubers around the world with millions of subscribers and views. The most subscribed to Youtuber is Swedish and lives in the UK.
    • mikep22
    • By mikep22 6th Sep 17, 8:59 PM
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    I think its a tough gig to be honest, and one that looks much simpler when what it actually is. I had a student who did gaming videos, had thousands of subscribers and was barely covering his costs.

    I watch an awful lot of youtube videos - and yet my subscribed list remains mostly professional teams (eg Peterborough, Surrey, New York Giants), Chefs (Jamie Oliver, Gennaro Contaldo), gaming videos and so forth. That doesnt mean I dont watch other things, I just dont follow them.

    I like your idea, I think its important to youtube about something you are knowledgeable about. Production values are also massively important - quality of sound and video. If these are not up to par your video will look substandard and unprofessional. There are intangibles too....there are some people who make youtube videos who are simply dull. People need to be interesting and engaging. An excellent example is Gennaro Contaldo - check out the passion in his videos. Videos like that are engaging and interesting to watch.

    You need to be able to produce content, to a good standard, regularly. So that's multiple times a week.

    And you also need to have a mega thick skin, as some of the comments are truly awful.
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    • immuno
    • By immuno 6th Sep 17, 9:58 PM
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    Social Blade will most likely be making assumptions and giving a general idea of what is possible. The 2K will include those with millions of subscribers, but even some with millions of subs will get 1K or less due to video content.

    There are plenty of channels with couples. It's fine if only one of you appears in some videos. If you always did videos together for years and then one day just one of you did a video alone you may get questions, but if doing some alone from the start people are unlikely to think anything of it.

    It's always possible someone could find your videos, especially if your channel starts to grow. Does it matter though? Unless it conflicts with your job and could cause issues, if you enjoy it then why not do it?



    No, there are a number of Youtubers around the world with millions of subscribers and views. The most subscribed to Youtuber is Swedish and lives in the UK.
    Originally posted by Flyonthewall
    Yeah, I know there are some big Youtubers outside of the US. I just mean that on average, they seem to have more views...maybe it just seems that way to me.

    I meant the monthly average, so when SocialBlade says £200-2k for someone per month, I assume it's roughly in the middle?

    I know that asking how much Sponsored videos make is also like asking how long a piece of string is....

    I realise it's going to be very time consuming, so just trying to weigh the pros and cons. I do have a good camera..and we were thinking that my partner could do most of the editing whilst I prepare content for the videos.
    • Flyonthewall
    • By Flyonthewall 7th Sep 17, 10:58 AM
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    • 7th Sep 17, 10:58 AM
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    Yeah, I know there are some big Youtubers outside of the US. I just mean that on average, they seem to have more views...maybe it just seems that way to me.

    I meant the monthly average, so when SocialBlade says £200-2k for someone per month, I assume it's roughly in the middle?

    I know that asking how much Sponsored videos make is also like asking how long a piece of string is....

    I realise it's going to be very time consuming, so just trying to weigh the pros and cons. I do have a good camera..and we were thinking that my partner could do most of the editing whilst I prepare content for the videos.
    Originally posted by immuno
    I'd say many videos get a large percentage of US viewers, but overall I doubt US Youtubers get more views in comparison. You maybe just hear about them more. Magazines in shops and TV shows here seem to mostly focus on British Youtubers and I'm sure the US focus more on the US Youtubers so I guess it just depends on what you're watching and reading.

    There are many Youtubers who get nothing at all, many who get less than £200 and few who get £2000+ so I don't think the average amount would be in the middle. I imagine there will be a far, far higher percentage of people earnings under £500 than those earning £1000+. It's more of a guide that you could potentially earn between £200-£2000 rather than a payscale in which the average Youtuber will be earning in the middle.

    You'll only know what you can get from your videos by uploading them and waiting.

    Maybe try filming and editing a few videos, see how it goes and what you think to them and the work involved and then decide if you want to upload them. If you do decide to go ahead and upload them at least you'll know you've got some videos ready to go while you're filming others which will help with regular uploads.
    • immuno
    • By immuno 7th Sep 17, 2:23 PM
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    I'd say many videos get a large percentage of US viewers, but overall I doubt US Youtubers get more views in comparison. You maybe just hear about them more. Magazines in shops and TV shows here seem to mostly focus on British Youtubers and I'm sure the US focus more on the US Youtubers so I guess it just depends on what you're watching and reading.

    There are many Youtubers who get nothing at all, many who get less than £200 and few who get £2000+ so I don't think the average amount would be in the middle. I imagine there will be a far, far higher percentage of people earnings under £500 than those earning £1000+. It's more of a guide that you could potentially earn between £200-£2000 rather than a payscale in which the average Youtuber will be earning in the middle.

    You'll only know what you can get from your videos by uploading them and waiting.

    Maybe try filming and editing a few videos, see how it goes and what you think to them and the work involved and then decide if you want to upload them. If you do decide to go ahead and upload them at least you'll know you've got some videos ready to go while you're filming others which will help with regular uploads.
    Originally posted by Flyonthewall
    I don't mean to say that I think that on average, Youtubers earn £1000/month. I mean that if on Social Blade, it says £200-£2k for a particular person, for that month, does that mean it's somewhere in the middle? Ie. if another person has £30-60/month, is it approx £45, etc?
    • mikep22
    • By mikep22 7th Sep 17, 2:54 PM
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    I don't mean to say that I think that on average, Youtubers earn £1000/month. I mean that if on Social Blade, it says £200-£2k for a particular person, for that month, does that mean it's somewhere in the middle? Ie. if another person has £30-60/month, is it approx £45, etc?
    Originally posted by immuno
    I suspect thats not the case. If you were to do an average it would come out far closer to £200 then the £2k.
    For example you will have 5,000 people earning £200 - and 4 people earning £2k.

    Its a bit like a standard company where you have a CEO on say £100k and most employees on £20k.
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    • immuno
    • By immuno 7th Sep 17, 3:23 PM
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    I suspect thats not the case. If you were to do an average it would come out far closer to £200 then the £2k.
    For example you will have 5,000 people earning £200 - and 4 people earning £2k.

    Its a bit like a standard company where you have a CEO on say £100k and most employees on £20k.
    Originally posted by mikep22
    Ah, I see. Thanks. I'm not sure why it'd give that range for one particular Youtuber, though?? It's not like it's a range for several people!
    • mikep22
    • By mikep22 7th Sep 17, 3:27 PM
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    Ah, I see. Thanks. I'm not sure why it'd give that range for one particular Youtuber, though?? It's not like it's a range for several people!
    Originally posted by immuno
    Couldnt answer that one
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    • Flyonthewall
    • By Flyonthewall 8th Sep 17, 11:33 AM
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    I don't mean to say that I think that on average, Youtubers earn £1000/month. I mean that if on Social Blade, it says £200-£2k for a particular person, for that month, does that mean it's somewhere in the middle? Ie. if another person has £30-60/month, is it approx £45, etc?
    Originally posted by immuno
    I don't think it's any kind of average or based on a particular person, it's just a rough idea of what you can potentially get from Youtube.

    A lot of sites say $1 for every 1000 views, but that will vary based on what advertisers pay and how many people watch/click the ads. For many (top Youtubers included), the amount per impression has gone down recently so will likely be (far) less than $1 for 1000 views.
    • tommyukuk
    • By tommyukuk 8th Sep 17, 4:34 PM
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    As a general rule of thumb, its around £1 for every 1000 views give or take a couple of pence.. and around £3 give or take per 1000 for the channels that get around a million views plus a video..
    • Fallen-Angel
    • By Fallen-Angel 8th Sep 17, 6:23 PM
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    I've gone to my stats, over my YouTube lifetime I've had 88,047 views and made $42.47. Most of those views come from 2 videos

    1) 56,927 views earning $21.75
    2) 23,400 views earning $11.53

    Both created and posted in April 2014.

    I've not even got 200 subs yet but I've only really started focusing on creating and posting over the last 4 months. Just as an idea

    It's a lot of work and the key is to get viewers to watch as much of a video as possible, and hopefully click ads.
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    • Beartricks
    • By Beartricks 8th Sep 17, 10:51 PM
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    Yeah, I know there are some big Youtubers outside of the US. I just mean that on average, they seem to have more views...maybe it just seems that way to me.

    I meant the monthly average, so when SocialBlade says £200-2k for someone per month, I assume it's roughly in the middle?

    I know that asking how much Sponsored videos make is also like asking how long a piece of string is....

    I realise it's going to be very time consuming, so just trying to weigh the pros and cons. I do have a good camera..and we were thinking that my partner could do most of the editing whilst I prepare content for the videos.
    Originally posted by immuno
    Do you have a good camera though, or do you have a decent camera? Like I said, the big youtubers are dictating what makes the smaller ones successful. If the bigger youtubers are using 4K cameras as their standard, then that's what people will be expecting across the board. A two year old SLR wont cut it. You really need to keep your finger on the pulse.

    I used to work in the media, and most of that was media training. It's not easy to be on camera and you'd need to look at stuff like lighting, set dressing, costume etc as well as things like how to hold and carry yourself on camera, and how to address audiences.
    • Hermia
    • By Hermia 10th Sep 17, 1:29 AM
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    Do you have a good camera though, or do you have a decent camera? Like I said, the big youtubers are dictating what makes the smaller ones successful. If the bigger youtubers are using 4K cameras as their standard, then that's what people will be expecting across the board. A two year old SLR wont cut it. You really need to keep your finger on the pulse.

    I used to work in the media, and most of that was media training. It's not easy to be on camera and you'd need to look at stuff like lighting, set dressing, costume etc as well as things like how to hold and carry yourself on camera, and how to address audiences.
    Originally posted by Beartricks
    The quality of YT vids has really gone through the roof. I love travel vids and some of the better channels are producing content that doesn't look all that different to a BBC documentary! I was watching a couple the other day with stunning drone shots, 4K quality video and beautiful time lapse footage. I also enjoy cooking vids and when I started watching YT the vids were long shots where you could hardly see what the person was doing. Now there is professional lighting and close-ups. The presentation is more polished now. It seems standard for people to look smart and behave more like a professional presenter. There are still vids where people just sit in their bedroom and record grainy footage of themselves droning on, but you do see a lot of criticisms in the comments section of those vids.
    • Flyonthewall
    • By Flyonthewall 10th Sep 17, 10:14 AM
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    Do you have a good camera though, or do you have a decent camera? Like I said, the big youtubers are dictating what makes the smaller ones successful. If the bigger youtubers are using 4K cameras as their standard, then that's what people will be expecting across the board. A two year old SLR wont cut it. You really need to keep your finger on the pulse.

    I used to work in the media, and most of that was media training. It's not easy to be on camera and you'd need to look at stuff like lighting, set dressing, costume etc as well as things like how to hold and carry yourself on camera, and how to address audiences.
    Originally posted by Beartricks
    A lot of big Youtubers also make it clear they did not start out with the top tech or any knowledge at all on lighting, camera settings or anything else. They also say to just start making videos. Grab any camera and start filming.

    Lots of mobiles now have pretty good cameras and lots of cameras and camcorders film in HD. You don't have to spend loads on a top camera and it would be daft to do so when starting out.

    The content is most important part. If you've got good content you'll keep people coming back. You can improve video quality as you grow the channel. Focusing on video quality and spending loads and worrying about that is pointless anyway if the content suffers because of it.
    • Spendingqueen
    • By Spendingqueen 11th Sep 17, 7:05 AM
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    If you want to create more watched videos create some playing minecraft videos or unwrapping Kinder eggs! Works for my kids.
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