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    • foxyman
    • By foxyman 6th Sep 17, 2:23 PM
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    VCS fine for driver leaving carpark while wife shopping
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    • 6th Sep 17, 2:23 PM
    VCS fine for driver leaving carpark while wife shopping 6th Sep 17 at 2:23 PM
    Hello all,
    i really need help with this, i was given a fine by VCS for the simple reason that i left a car park while my wife was walking into an iceland store to do her shopping. (bare in mind there was no pay for park machines and it says customers get an hour parking)
    I went to cross the road, and my wife was walking into the store only to remember she needed my card to pay, so she followed me to get the card, within 30 seconds there was a man taking photos of our car and fined us 100 pounds!

    I do have a receipt of our shopping, we ended up buying one thing after 20 mins trying to argue with the man.

    I've received a Notice to Keeper letter through the post.

    I really do need help on what to do next? I want to appeal but is it a fair process?
    If it goes to court do i have a chance of winning?
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    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 6th Sep 17, 2:25 PM
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    • 6th Sep 17, 2:25 PM
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    • 6th Sep 17, 2:25 PM
    Everyone is politely asked not to start a new thread until after reading up on the issue in the newbies faq thread near the top of the forum


    All your queries are answered there!
    • foxyman
    • By foxyman 6th Sep 17, 2:29 PM
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    • 6th Sep 17, 2:29 PM
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    • 6th Sep 17, 2:29 PM
    shall i ask the question there?
    I read the newbies forum but nothing was mentioned on the driver being fined for leaving the premises
    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 6th Sep 17, 2:31 PM
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    • 6th Sep 17, 2:31 PM
    I really do need help on what to do next? I want to appeal but is it a fair process?
    Originally posted by foxyman
    And you've had the help - go back to the NEWBIES thread and use the relevant first appeal wording.
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    • Quentin
    • By Quentin 6th Sep 17, 2:32 PM
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    • 6th Sep 17, 2:32 PM
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    • 6th Sep 17, 2:32 PM
    shall i ask the question there?
    I read the newbies forum but nothing was mentioned on the driver being fined for leaving the premises
    Originally posted by foxyman



    No. Don't ask any questions there - you won't get an answer!


    And your question is answered at the very beginning of #1 in the FAQ!


    "ALL CASES ARE THE SAME"
    • KeithP
    • By KeithP 6th Sep 17, 2:33 PM
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    • 6th Sep 17, 2:33 PM
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    • 6th Sep 17, 2:33 PM
    shall i ask the question there?
    Originally posted by foxyman
    No.


    I read the newbies forum but nothing was mentioned on the driver being fined for leaving the premises
    Originally posted by foxyman
    The first post on that newbies thread tells you how to appeal.
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    • fisherjim
    • By fisherjim 6th Sep 17, 2:39 PM
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    • 6th Sep 17, 2:39 PM
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    • 6th Sep 17, 2:39 PM
    For a start it's not a fine, and of course you can win, which "VCS" is it there are a number in different TA's.
    • Guys Dad
    • By Guys Dad 6th Sep 17, 2:46 PM
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    • 6th Sep 17, 2:46 PM
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    • 6th Sep 17, 2:46 PM
    Simply appeal telling the truth.

    Driver left site.
    Passenger went shopping in Iceland.
    Here is the proof (receipt, card statement etc)
    Say no more.

    End of .
    • IamEmanresu
    • By IamEmanresu 6th Sep 17, 3:17 PM
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    • 6th Sep 17, 3:17 PM
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    • 6th Sep 17, 3:17 PM
    What do the signs say? At Flora Street Iceland - a VCS hotspot - there is a "no walking off site" term that people miss. So best to go back and get as many pics as you can,
    Life's for living, get on with it rather than worrying about these. If they hassle, counter claim.

    Send them that costs schedule though, 24 hours before the hearing, and file it with the court. Take with you evidence that you have sent the costs schedule to them and when.
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    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 6th Sep 17, 4:04 PM
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    Ooh, so it's forbidding signage then?
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    • Redx
    • By Redx 6th Sep 17, 4:32 PM
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    I've received a Notice to Keeper letter through the post.

    I really do need help on what to do next?

    1) I want to appeal but is it a fair process?

    2) If it goes to court do i have a chance of winning?
    Originally posted by foxyman
    1) no its not

    2) possibly , we dont think anyone has been taken to court since the IBBOTSON case , so a judge may well decide there has been no issues and strike out the case
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 6th Sep 17, 7:21 PM
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    This is probably an unfair term in a consumer contract. If two people park, do both have to remain on site, what happens if your hat blows off and you have to leave the site to retrieve it. It is plain silly and would almost certainly be thrown out of court by a judge.


    http://www.hendersonchambers.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Consumer-Rights-Act-2015-Unfair-terms-Alerter.pdf
    Last edited by The Deep; 06-09-2017 at 7:30 PM.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
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