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    • lknights1987
    • By lknights1987 5th Sep 17, 10:41 PM
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    Student Accommodation need to cancel at last minute
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    • 5th Sep 17, 10:41 PM
    Student Accommodation need to cancel at last minute 5th Sep 17 at 10:41 PM
    Hi

    My friend who was due to start university in Birmingham next week has had a phone call from them letting her know that her course has been cancelled. She has quit her job and signed an agreement to rent a room in student accommodation but now she is being told she can't cancel the agreement unless she finds someone else to move into the property.

    The same thing happened last year. The university phoned her to cancel the course telling her they had over booked with students and that she will be booked onto the course a year later. They have told her the same story again this time round.

    Where does she stand in this matter? Will she have to pay for the rent even if she doesn't live there ?
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    • WibblyGirly
    • By WibblyGirly 5th Sep 17, 10:56 PM
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    I've never heard of courses being over booked with students.
    Can she choose another course? Seems odd they would do this to her twice and she accepts it.
    • 00ec25
    • By 00ec25 5th Sep 17, 10:57 PM
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    Where does she stand in this matter? Will she have to pay for the rent even if she doesn't live there ?
    Originally posted by lknights1987
    technically yes, university accommodation operates those rules

    however, as it is the university which has cancelled the course I would think she has a good case for appealing to "the university" over the decision of the accommodation office to impose the "normal" contract terms re her rent

    get her to speak to the student union (even if she isn't a student?) or even the university's own student advice centre
    • Red-Squirrel
    • By Red-Squirrel 5th Sep 17, 11:02 PM
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    That's very odd and I wouldn't take that lying down.

    Is this a normal undergrad course that she applied to through UCAS?

    Maybe post on the student board for advice on getting them to honour her place?
    • davidmcn
    • By davidmcn 5th Sep 17, 11:09 PM
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    technically yes, university accommodation operates those rules

    however, as it is the university which has cancelled the course I would think she has a good case for appealing to "the university" over the decision of the accommodation office to impose the "normal" contract terms re her rent
    Originally posted by 00ec25
    It's not clear to me from the OP that the university is also the landlord.
    • 00ec25
    • By 00ec25 5th Sep 17, 11:14 PM
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    It's not clear to me from the OP that the university is also the landlord.
    Originally posted by davidmcn
    fair comment, my default is that first years are "in" not "out" but then again not every university operates to that "standard" and I am of course also assuming she is a UG not a PG
    • ThePants999
    • By ThePants999 5th Sep 17, 11:28 PM
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    Never mind the accommodation - I wouldn't take a second postponement lying down! If they postponed her course last year, she should have been at the front of the bloody queue this year - she should go and make a fuss!
    • deannatrois
    • By deannatrois 6th Sep 17, 12:51 AM
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    It does sound a bit odd. Can't they even offer an alternative course? Does she have the required examination results?

    It seems strange because the caps that were in place for student numbers were dropped a couple of years ago (so how could the course be overbooked last year) although apparently student numbers have now dropped.

    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/aug/14/nervous-universities-await-clearing-as-student-applications-fall

    Nothing explains how the course could have been overbooked last year and cancelled this year. I would have thought, if university accommodation she could get her accommodation fees returned. I just had to pay a deposit of £250 for my son's room. Don't see how university can charge her for the whole year if the course has been cancelled. If private rental (unusual for first year, most students live in the first year) she will have more problems.

    But I am sorry, what you have been told doesn't make sense on a number of fronts. Is she doing a postgraduate course?
    • Out, Vile Jelly
    • By Out, Vile Jelly 6th Sep 17, 10:43 AM
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    If it's a private LL, then yes she's liable.

    But they should definitely be pursuing this with the university as something is not right here.
    They are an EYESORES!!!!
    • Guest101
    • By Guest101 6th Sep 17, 10:49 AM
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    Hi

    My friend who was due to start university in Birmingham next week has had a phone call from them letting her know that her course has been cancelled. She has quit her job and signed an agreement to rent a room in student accommodation but now she is being told she can't cancel the agreement unless she finds someone else to move into the property. - Just don't move in. The tenancy never starts and the rent isn't due.

    The same thing happened last year. The university phoned her to cancel the course telling her they had over booked with students and that she will be booked onto the course a year later. They have told her the same story again this time round.

    Where does she stand in this matter? Will she have to pay for the rent even if she doesn't live there ?
    Originally posted by lknights1987
    -I'd speak to NUS about this. Something doesn't sound right.
    • eddddy
    • By eddddy 6th Sep 17, 11:59 AM
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    I find it very hard to believe that a university would do that once - let alone twice. Are you sure that you have the whole story?

    You say a 'university in Birmingham' - is it Birmingham University?

    Important information about your student contract with the University of Birmingham

    ...
    If changes to your programme are made after you have accepted your offer, the University will try to give you early notification of those changes and minimise their impact by offering suitable alternative arrangements, helping you find an alternative programme or University or providing compensation where it believes there is a fair case to do so.
    ...

    Link: http://www.birmingham.ac.uk/undergraduate/requirements/terms.aspx
    I really don't believe that any university would just phone a prospective student two weeks before the start of term and just say "Sorry, the course is cancelled/over booked, you can't come!".
    • Cirias
    • By Cirias 6th Sep 17, 12:17 PM
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    If I ran a uni at the moment I'd be bringing out fold-up chairs into the lecture halls to cram more students in, lol. Seriously, the only limitation on a course is physical space right? Surely seminars can be made larger or dotted about to accommodate for the increased number of students.
    • WibblyGirly
    • By WibblyGirly 6th Sep 17, 12:40 PM
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    Cirias, my uni would break the classes into 2 groups and the lecturer would just repeat the lessons each week. Also benefitted students if you couldn't make it to your scheduled class you could go to the other one.
    • dimbo61
    • By dimbo61 6th Sep 17, 4:02 PM
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    Most Universities offer first year students University accommodation in University owned halls or Private halls affiliated with the UNI.
    Ask your friend to contact the university and find out what has happened
    • csgohan4
    • By csgohan4 6th Sep 17, 6:26 PM
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    OP is not telling the whole story here, perhaps a dodgy 'college' with a scam course. For two years in the row now too
    "It is prudent when shopping for something important, not to limit yourself to Pound land"
    • lknights1987
    • By lknights1987 6th Sep 17, 6:38 PM
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    Thanks everyone for your replies. The course that she was suppose to be on was a dentistry course through BPP University in Birmingham but apparently there facilities weren't up to scratch so they binned the course at the last minute . Last year she was due to start the same course and after checking into the accommodation in Birmingham she was told a couple of days later they had overbooked the course and to come back next year. They have !!!!!!ed her up good and proper. No job to go back to and now trying to get the accommodation agreement cancelled.
    • BorisThomson
    • By BorisThomson 6th Sep 17, 7:13 PM
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    Are there any courses at the proper Birmingham universities that she might want to do/ be eligible for/ have spaces?
    • csgohan4
    • By csgohan4 6th Sep 17, 9:36 PM
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    Thanks everyone for your replies. The course that she was suppose to be on was a dentistry course through BPP University in Birmingham but apparently there facilities weren't up to scratch so they binned the course at the last minute . Last year she was due to start the same course and after checking into the accommodation in Birmingham she was told a couple of days later they had overbooked the course and to come back next year. They have !!!!!!ed her up good and proper. No job to go back to and now trying to get the accommodation agreement cancelled.
    Originally posted by lknights1987




    I think your friend needs to wise up and actually either get into a vocational training job, get some qualifications through the right channels and get street wise


    btw the dentistry courses they are offering are Master degrees, are you sure your friend is telling the truth?


    http://www.bpp.com/bpp-university/postgraduate-programmes/masters-in-clinical-dentistry
    Last edited by csgohan4; 06-09-2017 at 9:38 PM.
    "It is prudent when shopping for something important, not to limit yourself to Pound land"
    • Doozergirl
    • By Doozergirl 6th Sep 17, 9:55 PM
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    I've lived around Birmingham for 15 years. First time I've ever heard of BPP.
    Everything that is supposed to be in heaven is already here on earth.
    • harrys dad
    • By harrys dad 6th Sep 17, 9:55 PM
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    BPP is a privately run for profit university, funded solely through tuition fees. What does your friend have in writing? If they are going to be considerably out of pocket they may need to consider taking some sort of action against the "university". You may consider cross posting on the consumer board.
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