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    • aah
    • By aah 5th Sep 17, 4:29 PM
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    VAT on food in Portuguese supermarket is this right?
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    VAT on food in Portuguese supermarket is this right? 5th Sep 17 at 4:29 PM
    Supermarket shopping in Portugal - been right royally overcharged - most expensive supermarket ever 3.35 euro for 6 eggs eek. But what's really bothered me is that the VAT is added at point of sale not as the displayed price and that 23% VAT is applied to foodstuffs such as olive spread frozen pizza and ham. A lower rate of VAT has been applied to eggs milk butter and cheeese
    I've not come across this before is this right I thought food was VAT exempt
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    • Alter ego
    • By Alter ego 5th Sep 17, 4:31 PM
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    Different country different laws.
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    • By zagfles 5th Sep 17, 4:39 PM
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    It normal to charge VAT on food, most countries do, the UK is unusual in not doing so.

    But surprised about VAT not being included in the displayed price, I thought this was illegal in the EU, except for wholesalers who mainly sell to businesses.

    It's normal in the US, but VAT is a lot lower.
    • peachyprice
    • By peachyprice 5th Sep 17, 5:03 PM
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    Yes, it's right, the UK it pretty unique not charging VAT on food considered luxury items and many other things that the majority do.

    Portugal
    23% Standard All other taxable goods and services.

    13% Reduced Some foodstuffs; admission to certain cultural events; restaurant & cafe food; some agricultural supplies; wine; mineral water; diesel for agriculture.

    6% Reduced Some foodstuffs; water supplies; certain pharmaceutical products; medical equipment for disabled persons; childrens car seats; domestic passenger transport; restaurant services; some books (excluding e-books); certain newspapers and periodicals; TV licence; social housing; renovation and repair of private dwellings; certain agricultural supplies; hotel accommodation; some social services; some medical and dental care; collection of domestic waste, minor repairs of bicycles; domestic care services; fruit juices; firewood; cut flowers and plants for decorative use and food production.

    0% Zero Intra-community and international passenger transport.
    http://www.vatlive.com/vat-rates/european-vat-rates/
    Makes interesting reading
    Last edited by peachyprice; 05-09-2017 at 7:10 PM. Reason: For the pedant
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    • phatbear
    • By phatbear 5th Sep 17, 7:01 PM
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    Yes, it's right, the UK it pretty unique not charging VAT on food
    Originally posted by peachyprice
    Well thats not 100% correct things like crisps, nuts, biscuits etc are vatable.

    There was a famous case back in the day about jaffa cakes being cakes not biscuits as cake is seen as an essential therefore is not vatable howver biscuits are defined as a luxury and therefore are vatable. If youre interested the legal presidence was set that a cake goes hard as it ages yet a biscuit goes soft, fascinating ehhh?
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    • phatbear
    • By phatbear 5th Sep 17, 7:04 PM
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    • 5th Sep 17, 7:04 PM
    See:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vat-notice-70114-food/vat-notice-70114-food#confectionery
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    • peachyprice
    • By peachyprice 5th Sep 17, 7:11 PM
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    Well thats not 100% correct things like crisps, nuts, biscuits etc are vatable.

    There was a famous case back in the day about jaffa cakes being cakes not biscuits as cake is seen as an essential therefore is not vatable howver biscuits are defined as a luxury and therefore are vatable. If youre interested the legal presidence was set that a cake goes hard as it ages yet a biscuit goes soft, fascinating ehhh?
    Originally posted by phatbear
    There, edited for you. I don't believe I actually said ANY food though.

    Regardless, we still zero rate a hell of a lot more than any other EU country, including more foods than anywhere else.
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    • By phatbear 5th Sep 17, 7:18 PM
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    • 5th Sep 17, 7:18 PM
    Yes, it's right, the UK it pretty unique not charging VAT on food considered luxury items and many other things that the majority do.
    Originally posted by peachyprice
    There, edited for you. I don't believe I actually said ANY food though.

    Regardless, we still zero rate a hell of a lot more than any other EU country, including more foods than anywhere else.
    Originally posted by peachyprice
    You're still incorrect as the uk DOES charge VAT on items that are considered luxury items however your edited post states the opposite
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    • Murphy_The_Cat
    • By Murphy_The_Cat 5th Sep 17, 9:45 PM
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    In the UK
    small pack of chocolate - vatable
    large pack of chocolate - non vatable

    Bottled water - vatable



    • aah
    • By aah 12th Sep 17, 8:00 PM
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    • ScarletMarble
    • By ScarletMarble 13th Sep 17, 8:12 AM
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    If you look at some supermarkets receipts, they indicate which products have VAT on them.

    I know Sainsburys have an asterisk * by them. Morrisons, unsure if they still do this put A and B. I think A non-VAT and B VAT. Then at the bottom, adds up the values of A and B items
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