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    • Jordangardner54
    • By Jordangardner54 5th Sep 17, 2:06 PM
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    Checking electrician is qualified
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    • 5th Sep 17, 2:06 PM
    Checking electrician is qualified 5th Sep 17 at 2:06 PM
    I live in a new build and I'm not competent with DIY other than putting furniture together and shelves, the usual stuff.

    I'm getting 2 new light fittings from the ones that came in the house to a pendant type that I've just bought. I searched on Facebook for electricians and found one that is charging me £30 to change them both.

    Should I be checking that he is qualified/registered before allowing him to carry out the work, even with it being a small job? I don't want to invalidate my home insurance or anything from the NHBC. Should I be getting a minor works certirice once he's finished etc.? If there's any more advice you could give it would be very much appreciated!

    I'm a finance manager so I'm already at the ready to ask him why he's charging VAT if he's not VAT registered (he doesn't have a website, just a Facebook page with good reviews)
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    • macman
    • By macman 5th Sep 17, 2:37 PM
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    If you want a reliable, qualified and experienced sparky, then Facebook is not really the place to start.
    Having said that, it's a very simple job that any handyman could do (or DIY), I doubt if for that price you are getting someone formally qualified.
    Yes, you should get a minor works cert.
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    • Jordangardner54
    • By Jordangardner54 5th Sep 17, 3:10 PM
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    • 5th Sep 17, 3:10 PM
    Macman - I just asked the person carrying this out if they can provide a minor works certificate and they replied yes, it will get posted to me after the work is completed and will cost me an extra £25. Is this normal?
    • tonyh66
    • By tonyh66 5th Sep 17, 3:30 PM
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    • 5th Sep 17, 3:30 PM
    no, you should get the certificate in your hand. Look for electrical trade websites NICEIC etc and find a qualified sparky.
    • Risteard
    • By Risteard 5th Sep 17, 3:55 PM
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    • 5th Sep 17, 3:55 PM
    There is no requirement to provide a Minor Electrical Installation Works Certificate for replacement of an accessory/luminaire as the circuit has not been altered. This does not, however, negate the need for appropriate inspection and testing.

    For £30 the so-called "Electrician" is not qualified nor competent, however. (Certainly not competent in business practice.)
    • Jordangardner54
    • By Jordangardner54 5th Sep 17, 6:22 PM
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    • 5th Sep 17, 6:22 PM
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    • 5th Sep 17, 6:22 PM
    Thank you everyone. I cancelled the one we booked and searched in the NICEIC website and there was one who lives 15 doors down from me and has already done the job well
    • Heedtheadvice
    • By Heedtheadvice 6th Sep 17, 10:25 AM
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    • 6th Sep 17, 10:25 AM
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    • 6th Sep 17, 10:25 AM
    Good Right approach great result!
    Perhaps you would also post how long the job took and what it cost?

    I am normally in agreement with Risteard's sensible and accurate postings but disagree that a competent electrician could not do the job for £30 (ex vat).

    Provided the job was straight forward, two fittings changed and testing can be done in an hour. Another half for admin, perhaps at most. There are competent and qualified electricians in my area that work for under 30 an hour!

    A major trade organisation I know that does M&E work averaged 20 minutes to install each new socket excluding running in wiring, so how long to change a fitting?

    Might be useful Risteard if you would justify your comment and give costs?
    • C_Mababejive
    • By C_Mababejive 6th Sep 17, 11:21 AM
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    • 6th Sep 17, 11:21 AM
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    Why not just look on the internet and find a bona fide electrician instead of hanging around facebook? Would you look for a dentist on facebook?
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    • macman
    • By macman 6th Sep 17, 12:04 PM
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    I don't know any sparky who would do that job for £30. Depends on area obviously but certainly not in the South East. Add in travelling time and overheads and that is not a feasible hourly rate for a professional.
    Any competent handyman would have done it, but I'd expect to pay maybe £40, and that would be cash.
    How do you know if it's a 'great result' for the OP without knowing what the genuine sparky charged?
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    • Risteard
    • By Risteard 6th Sep 17, 2:34 PM
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    There are competent and qualified electricians in my area that work for under 30 an hour!
    Originally posted by Heedtheadvice
    Not for the first hour though as this involves travel etc. - you will find a call-out type scenario where the first hour will always be substantially dearer than subsequent hours (notwithstanding day rates etc. for larger jobs).
    • Heedtheadvice
    • By Heedtheadvice 6th Sep 17, 9:26 PM
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    I understand what macman and risteard are saying but....

    I am not in the SE and many others aren't too. You will likely pay a lot more in the SE and London but they are not representative of the whole of the UK!

    I live in a small town we have two very good electrical businesses that cost less than the discussed figure and the furthest away would be here in five minutes! They do not charge travelling time though they probably would if they were travelling to the SE

    But yes risteard, despite what you write they do charge under 30 for the first and subsequent hours! That is actual fact, not opinion or a generalisation!

    I readily accept that charges are often much more than that especially in cities and towards the SE and in remoter rural areas.....but not everywhere. The OP has not mentioned his location as far as I can see.

    Great result? Yes! I mean in terms of the OP sensibly seeking advice on here, getting good advice.....and then following it. Success!
    Obviously no idea if the job has been done well, economically except what the OP has written.
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