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    • CardinalWolsey
    • By CardinalWolsey 5th Sep 17, 1:48 PM
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    Standard servicing costs
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    • 5th Sep 17, 1:48 PM
    Standard servicing costs 5th Sep 17 at 1:48 PM
    My daughter announced yesterday that her popular small "Italian" car needs its 2 year service. She phoned the dealership it was bought from, and booked it in. I asked her how much was it going to be, and it was £340 ish. After picking myself up off the floor, I thought I'd find out how much it would be from the next nearest dealership - £290 (both including VAT).

    Is this usual for there to be wide variances in standard servicing costs between different main dealers? I would have expected them to have been the same cost for the same service.
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    • knightstyle
    • By knightstyle 6th Sep 17, 3:46 PM
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    When we had a Toyota I went online, www.toyota.co.uk, got the price of a full service. I then called our local Toyota garage and booked the service only to be charged £70 more. When I complained I was told the price is only a guide!
    Another sharp garage practice.
    • fred246
    • By fred246 6th Sep 17, 10:35 PM
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    Please inform me of what you include in your "major" service for £50.
    Originally posted by mcpitman
    I use Comma oils. Never heard a bad word about them. I think of them as Castrol without the marketing budget. Halfords buy Comma oil and always have a new year sale. £12 for 4 litres. Fully synthetic. I stock up. £11.62 with Topcashback.
    I use Mann filters. High quality from euro car parts.
    Oil filter £7.59
    Cabin Filter £17.99
    Air Filter £15.99
    NGK spark plugs £11.96
    Always use the discount code from their website. Currently SAVE30. 30% off. Total for filters & spark plugs = £37.47. £36.09 with Topcashback.
    Total = £11.62 + £36.09 = £47.71 If you want to change the brake fluid Comma DOT4 is £3.50 at Wilko. £51.21 in total.
    Nearly did it!
    • takman
    • By takman 6th Sep 17, 10:55 PM
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    I use Comma oils. Never heard a bad word about them. I think of them as Castrol without the marketing budget. Halfords buy Comma oil and always have a new year sale. £12 for 4 litres. Fully synthetic. I stock up. £11.62 with Topcashback.
    I use Mann filters. High quality from euro car parts.
    Oil filter £7.59
    Cabin Filter £17.99
    Air Filter £15.99
    NGK spark plugs £11.96
    Always use the discount code from their website. Currently SAVE30. 30% off. Total for filters & spark plugs = £37.47. £36.09 with Topcashback.
    Total = £11.62 + £36.09 = £47.71 If you want to change the brake fluid Comma DOT4 is £3.50 at Wilko. £51.21 in total.
    Nearly did it!
    Originally posted by fred246
    Don't forget your fuel filter!
    • fred246
    • By fred246 6th Sep 17, 11:20 PM
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    Don't forget your fuel filter!
    Originally posted by takman
    It's not in the servicing schedule and Eurocarparts don't sell a fuel filter for that car.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 6th Sep 17, 11:23 PM
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    It's not in the servicing schedule and Eurocarparts don't sell a fuel filter for that car.
    Originally posted by fred246
    <looks very sceptical>
    I've not heard of anything since carbs were replaced by injection that's not had a fuel filter.
    • Mercdriver
    • By Mercdriver 6th Sep 17, 11:32 PM
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    It's not in the servicing schedule and Eurocarparts don't sell a fuel filter for that car.
    Originally posted by fred246
    So you wouldn't replace a fuel filter on a service?

    I wouldn't buy a car from you either.
    • debtdebt
    • By debtdebt 6th Sep 17, 11:49 PM
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    What amazes me is the gap between DIY and dealer servicing. With DIY you know that everything is done properly and you'd never spend more than £50ish even on the most major service. With dealer servicing they do whatever they feel like doing on the day - and then charge astronomical prices. When you see £340 you think "yes that's with a cambelt and then you realise it probably isn't". So all that money is going on labour. So a mobile mechanic could do 2 services a day. £600 a day. £3K a week. £150K a year.
    Originally posted by fred246
    It's not really all going on labour though is it? If you go to a main dealer for servicing, obviously you've got main dealer parts prices rather than spurious ones from ECP, then you've got the labour, cost of the swanky plate glass dealership, kitting out the service dept, tools, computers, the nice waiting area with free coffee and biscuits, the dolly on reception etc etc. A mobile mechanic obviously doesn't have any of those overheads and obviously isn't going to charge the same £340 for a service.
    • fred246
    • By fred246 6th Sep 17, 11:53 PM
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    So you wouldn't replace a fuel filter on a service?

    I wouldn't buy a car from you either.
    Originally posted by Mercdriver
    I'll have to sell it to someone else then.
    • takman
    • By takman 7th Sep 17, 8:45 AM
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    It's not in the servicing schedule and Eurocarparts don't sell a fuel filter for that car.
    Originally posted by fred246
    What car are you talking about exactly?. It's seems you wouldn't be able to service your 2004 VW for £50....

    My car takes VW505.01 oil. I pay about £25 for 5 litres and change it every 8000 miles. A friend who works in a motor factors brought me some VW507.00 oil for £40 and said it would last ages. A bit of googling later he took it back and I used my usual oil. More frequent oil changes with the cheaper (but still to spec) oil for me.
    Originally posted by fred246
    Just looking for some new parking sensors for my 2004 VW. There are loads of unbranded ones on ebay. Very few genuine. Has anyone had experience of the unbranded ones? Are they OK? Thanks
    Originally posted by fred246
    • fred246
    • By fred246 7th Sep 17, 10:02 AM
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    Unfortunately there is no oil to VW505.01 spec in the Halfords new year sales. The prices I have quoted are for our smaller runaround car.
    • Mercdriver
    • By Mercdriver 7th Sep 17, 10:11 AM
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    Cool story, bro....
    • C_Mababejive
    • By C_Mababejive 7th Sep 17, 10:51 AM
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    Yes, I traded mine in before I had the more expensive service done
    Originally posted by Mercdriver

    I have a local independent merc specialist not far away. A friend of mine always takes his motor to them and gets good service. They are well reviewed and recommended.
    Feudal Britain needs land reform. 70% of the land is "owned" by 1 % of the population and at least 50% is unregistered (inherited by landed gentry). Thats why your slave box costs so much..
    • takman
    • By takman 7th Sep 17, 11:35 AM
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    takman
    Unfortunately there is no oil to VW505.01 spec in the Halfords new year sales. The prices I have quoted are for our smaller runaround car.
    Originally posted by fred246
    Come on tell us what car it is.
    • fred246
    • By fred246 7th Sep 17, 2:14 PM
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    The UKs best selling and best small car.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 7th Sep 17, 2:59 PM
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    The UKs best selling and best small car.
    Originally posted by fred246
    Well, the Fiesta fits the second of those, but...
    • Nodding Donkey
    • By Nodding Donkey 7th Sep 17, 5:19 PM
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    Nodding Donkey
    • takman
    • By takman 7th Sep 17, 5:31 PM
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    takman
    The UKs best selling and best small car.
    Originally posted by fred246
    I'm surprised that you managed to get any parts at all to service your car if you always this cryptic when someone asks what it is!.

    But i agree with AdrianC that it is probably a Ford Fiesta.
    • unholyangel
    • By unholyangel 7th Sep 17, 6:43 PM
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    All Tesco stores are the same company.
    Not all <brand> dealers are the same company. Very few are actually owned/run by <brand>'s manufacturer/importer.

    The manufacturer/importer will have a standard book time for each specific job, and a standard price for each specific part. Individual dealers set their hourly labour rate, and may offer a discount on the parts prices.
    Originally posted by AdrianC
    Are you sure on that?

    Tesco use a very complex corporation structure in order to avoid its tax liabilities which involves dozens of different companies but all under the Tesco brand. IIRC (was 10+ years ago they did a expose on it), this was part of the reason behind the Tesco Metro, Tesco Superstore etc having different names despite all being tesco stores - they're all assigned to different groups for tax purposes.

    However, the competition act is not designed to stop companies under the same brand/umbrella from setting the same price across all of its companies under that brand. Its designed to stop entirely different companies colluding to set a "industry standard" (rather than a company/brand standard) which is detrimental to consumers - like what the energy companies were caught doing so they could claim their massive price hikes were "standard".
    Last edited by unholyangel; 07-09-2017 at 6:46 PM.
    Money doesn't solve poverty.....it creates it.
    • fred246
    • By fred246 8th Sep 17, 1:22 AM
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    Cool story, bro....
    Originally posted by Mercdriver
    I think we have 2 money saving ideas here. Mine is to complete a major service on a standard car for £50 using techniques such as buying oil in the annual Halfords sale.
    Mercdriver recommends trading your car in every time it needs a service. It is up to readers of the forum to make up their minds which is the best money saving idea.
    • Mercdriver
    • By Mercdriver 8th Sep 17, 9:16 AM
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    I think we have 2 money saving ideas here. Mine is to complete a major service on a standard car for £50 using techniques such as buying oil in the annual Halfords sale.
    Mercdriver recommends trading your car in every time it needs a service. It is up to readers of the forum to make up their minds which is the best money saving idea.
    Originally posted by fred246
    Where did I recommend that as a moneysaving tip? I challenge you to find it, as I didn't. I merely timed my change of car to be before the major service was due. If I waited til after, I would either been out of pocket for the service or got a lower part ex due to it being overdue a service. Changing cars is rarely if ever a moneysaving action. I changed for practicality reasons.

    Keep servicing your sweeping brush for your sweeping statements...
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