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    • Habib2342
    • By Habib2342 3rd Sep 17, 9:19 PM
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    Speeding Offence RR84061
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    • 3rd Sep 17, 9:19 PM
    Speeding Offence RR84061 3rd Sep 17 at 9:19 PM
    Hello,

    Back in April 2017 , i was caught by the police doing 50 mph in a 30mph restricted road. Indefensible yes, but the court wants to charge me an extortionate £474 and 6 points on my licence for this violation which took them five months to issue the fine. . the fee consists of :

    £85 -prosecutor costs - fair enough
    Fined £354.00. -??????? what exactly is this ?
    To pay a surcharge to fund victim services of £35.00 - I would understand if I had injured someone or something but it was a sliproad coming off the motorway where the signage was not clear- i.e it had not reduce speed signage but had the 50 and 30 mph circle signs. Plus it was not a residential road so ...why ?

    I live in NW London but the fine had been issued by Bromley Magistrates court which is in SE London- someone explain the logic in that ?

    I accept the 6 points on my license as obviously the plea I made online was not enough to encourage the judge to show mercy for this serious indiscretion and I am not against paying a fine but I think the amount they have issued me is a bit excessive. I would've though something in the region of 100-200 pounds would be fair, but 474 is just


    What are people thoughts ? should I contest it or suck it up like a man and pay it off ? its a good thing I'm cycling now as over relying on the car has made me overweight, irritable, and half asleep, which leads to other things, etc...

    have to setup a standing order nad pay if off over 6 months...lets see what the court says...
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    • Habib2342
    • By Habib2342 6th Sep 17, 11:03 PM
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    try this one

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5498699,-0.437227,3a,75y,288.96h,70.39t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sY4duqN_mP5Jv0JJSJKdHTQ!2e0!6s% 2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DY4duqN_mP5Jv0 JJSJKdHTQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearc h.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw% 3D112.65149%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8 i6656
    • Habib2342
    • By Habib2342 6th Sep 17, 11:04 PM
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    type in a40 Uxbridge

    latititude/longtitude 51.549838, -0.437097
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 6th Sep 17, 11:14 PM
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    type in a40 Uxbridge

    latititude/longtitude 51.549838, -0.437097
    Originally posted by Habib2342
    https://goo.gl/maps/woELe7MX5T22
    • Car 54
    • By Car 54 6th Sep 17, 11:56 PM
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    As you can see it’s a slip road coming off the motorway. If you click all the way down the road, you will see three speed limit signs, 2@ 50 m.ph and then one at 30.mph towards where the houses are. What would have been really helpful is to have had another sign stating ‘REDUCE SPEED NOW-RESIDENTIAL AREA APPROACHING ‘ .
    Originally posted by Habib2342
    Really? Have you ever seen such a sign? The ones wth 30 in a red circle seem to do the trick for most people.

    Anyway, what did you expect to find coming off a motorway? The chances of continuing at 70 must be slim.

    EDITED TO ADD: it's not even a motorway. Maybe your limited powers of observation explain a lot.
    Last edited by Car 54; 06-09-2017 at 11:59 PM.
    • sevenhills
    • By sevenhills 7th Sep 17, 11:31 AM
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    Really? Have you ever seen such a sign? The ones wth 30 in a red circle seem to do the trick for most people.

    Anyway, what did you expect to find coming off a motorway? The chances of continuing at 70 must be slim.
    Originally posted by Car 54
    The OP just needs to pay the fine, but 70mph to 30mph would require some braking, if people actually drove to the speed limit, that would be poor design.
    Surely 70mph to 40mph is more common.

    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 7th Sep 17, 11:35 AM
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    Did you look at the Google maps link? There are TWO 50mph signs well before the 30mph sign. Plenty of time to be getting down to the correct, legal speed as signed.
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    • tho
    • By tho 7th Sep 17, 12:06 PM
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    Did you look at the Google maps link? There are TWO 50mph signs well before the 30mph sign. Plenty of time to be getting down to the correct, legal speed as signed.
    Originally posted by DoaM
    4. There's a set of repeaters half way too. Even more notice.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 7th Sep 17, 12:06 PM
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    Getting down to 50 from 70 wasn't the OP's problem, though...
    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 7th Sep 17, 12:28 PM
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    True, but post #65 is thinking OP had to go from 70 to 30, and that is what I was replying to.
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    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 7th Sep 17, 12:42 PM
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    True, but post #65 is thinking OP had to go from 70 to 30, and that is what I was replying to.
    Originally posted by DoaM
    Oh, indeed. I mean, he only had 400m+ between the 50 and 30 signs. About 20sec at 50mph.
    • Habib2342
    • By Habib2342 10th Sep 17, 3:48 PM
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    Ok, so I've paid the fine and paid the increased premium to my insurer...suffice to say I will now be extremely conscious of my motoring now.

    On my licence reads the following :

    SP30
    Penalty points: 6
    Offence date: 4 Apr 2017
    Hide information
    Offence dates
    Offence date: 4 Apr 2017
    Expiry date: 4 Apr 2020
    Removal date: 4 Apr 2021
    Offence details
    SP30: Exceeding statutory speed limit on a public road
    Penalty points: 6
    Fine: £354.00
    Court/Fixed penalty office
    2575: South East London Magistrates’ Court


    Can someone explains why it takes a year between the expiry of the offence and the removal of the offence from my licence ?

    Here's to 4 years of increased insurance premiums....:ma d:
    • Car 54
    • By Car 54 10th Sep 17, 4:19 PM
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    Here's to 4 years of increased insurance premiums....:ma d:
    Originally posted by Habib2342
    Most insurers will ask about it for FIVE years, and you're obliged to tell them.
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