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    • LindaR1965
    • By LindaR1965 3rd Sep 17, 12:25 PM
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    LindaR1965
    Benefit fraud?
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    • 3rd Sep 17, 12:25 PM
    Benefit fraud? 3rd Sep 17 at 12:25 PM
    First time posted so hope this is in the right place. If not I apologise.

    My 20 year old daughter is in receipt of pip and esa. She has ms. She received a letter from dwp to go in for an interview regarding her benefits. We assumed it was just the usual, you still have ms, no cure found yet, you're just the same or worse. She went herself as it was no big deal. Turns out they wanted to ask questions regarding her committing benefit fraud. She opened an isa and her and her boyfriend have been putting money in it for a holiday. It's sitting at £4000. She has a saving account with 28p in it. Her current account has a couple of hundred. Do they have a right to access her accounts without her knowledge? About 2 years ago before she was in receipt of esa I put £28,000 in her account. This was part of an inheritance she received 13 years previously. She has no idea of this inheritance. She bought a brand new car, paid for driving lessons, insurance for car, went on holiday, bought clothes, make up etc, crashed car so bought another. Money was soon gone. She had a further £40,000 in a bond. When she applied for esa and pip on the phone they asked about any money she had, she said she had none as she did not know about it. I was there so luckily I took phone and explained about the bonds. The advisor told me it was ok as they would not affect her benefits. (Hopefully they still have a recording of this). Now 2 years later they are investigating her. The letter had nothing on it about an investigation or that it would be under caution. I have contacted a solicitor, we meet them in Tues. I am so very worried they find her guilty. It was an honest mistake. She has the money to pay them back. Will they send her to prison because of the amount involved. She thinks it's about £18,000. Could be more. She can't do community service due to her ms. I am worried sick. The stress of this could trigger a relapse for her as she's terrified. Anyone any advice or been through anything similar?
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    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 7th Sep 17, 2:55 PM
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    Diary
    DVLA have probably also been kept in the dark.

    Why would you assume that?
    Quite a few on here very quick to judge. Yes DVLA know she has ms. She is allowed to drive. Don't judge others by your own standards

    Powerful_rogue

    You find the fact she crashed her car a bit worrying? Is that because no one in the history of the world has never crashed unless they have an illness?

    High10pines

    Why would she not be allowed to drive? Her symptoms come and go. During her periods when she is well, should she be confined to the house, using public transport, getting lifts?

    Some people on here have been kind and offered support, a lot have not and been very judgemental and ignorant. Before posting ignorant comments please at least research what your posting as you just show yourselves to be mean spirited and unkind.

    For that reason I am out.

    I hope those who were unkind and judgemental never have to reach out for support and advice and find themselves on the receiving end of someone like minded to themselves.

    Thank you to those who understood I was panicking and scared and therefore was blurting information that at times seemed confusing but was never dishonest. To the rest of you ... Well let's hope karma is real.
    Originally posted by LindaR1965
    With an open public forum you will always get the haters especially when it comes to benefits and benefit fraud. Surely you expected some nasty replies when you decided to post your question? After all we're talking about the tax payers money here. As much as i dislike those benefit bashers you can't expect anything less on a forum like this...
    • TELLIT01
    • By TELLIT01 7th Sep 17, 3:02 PM
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    With an open public forum you will always get the haters especially when it comes to benefits and benefit fraud. Surely you expected some nasty replies when you decided to post your question? After all we're talking about the tax payers money here. As much as i dislike those benefit bashers you can't expect anything less on a forum like this...
    Originally posted by poppy12345
    Sadly you are correct poppy12345. On public forums these days there seems to be a growing proportion whose only interest is in assuming the worst of everybody (assuming everybody is like themselves perhaps?). I don't agree with you that anybody posting onto a forum should expect bashers and trolls, particularly if they are new to boards in general.
    There are some who I feel should be kicked off the board, as all they ever do is provide negative comments, and make totally groundless assumptions. Unfortunately, the majority of those who fit that description probably don't even realise it or glory in their notoriety.
    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 7th Sep 17, 3:42 PM
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    Sadly you are correct poppy12345. On public forums these days there seems to be a growing proportion whose only interest is in assuming the worst of everybody (assuming everybody is like themselves perhaps?). I don't agree with you that anybody posting onto a forum should expect bashers and trolls, particularly if they are new to boards in general.
    There are some who I feel should be kicked off the board, as all they ever do is provide negative comments, and make totally groundless assumptions. Unfortunately, the majority of those who fit that description probably don't even realise it or glory in their notoriety.
    Originally posted by TELLIT01
    Totally agree with this
    • fredandwilma
    • By fredandwilma 7th Sep 17, 4:24 PM
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    DVLA have probably also been kept in the dark.
    Originally posted by Diary
    There is a massive list of conditions of which you should inform the DVLA. That's not to say you will lose your licence.

    I defy anyone to not have one of these conditions.

    https://www.gov.uk/health-conditions-and-driving
    Fred - Where's your get up and go?

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    • TELLIT01
    • By TELLIT01 7th Sep 17, 8:41 PM
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    There is a massive list of conditions of which you should inform the DVLA. That's not to say you will lose your licence.

    I defy anyone to not have one of these conditions.

    https://www.gov.uk/health-conditions-and-driving
    Originally posted by fredandwilma
    I don't have any of the conditions. I'm in perfect health, although I couldn't read the list 'coz the print was too small..
    • teddysmum
    • By teddysmum 8th Sep 17, 3:42 PM
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    teddysmum
    There is a massive list of conditions of which you should inform the DVLA. That's not to say you will lose your licence.

    I defy anyone to not have one of these conditions.

    https://www.gov.uk/health-conditions-and-driving
    Originally posted by fredandwilma


    With a lot of conditions it is the degree that matters.


    When diagnosed with type 2 diabetes, I was unsure about having to inform them , but they were only interested if I was on drugs and I was/ still am on diet and exercise only with no hypos.


    I have the beginnings of cataracts , but they do not affect my sight and have not grown in over two years.
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