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    • Dandytf
    • By Dandytf 1st Sep 17, 7:38 PM
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    50% pip road tax change of procedures
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    • 1st Sep 17, 7:38 PM
    50% pip road tax change of procedures 1st Sep 17 at 7:38 PM
    Hi All

    I today came home to what I thought was confirmation of 12 months road tax -50% pip discount.

    Unfortunately 1st time since 2013 my application was declined.

    Change of procedure- no longer does Dvla require original pip entitlement statement.

    Dvla now require me to contact dwp/pip and request an up to date entitlement statement.

    This meanIve had to pay full rate today and re claim 50% from Dvla once dip/pip send my up to date entitlement statement.

    To re iterate I was taxing my car since 2013 with original PIP entitlement statement since 2013 including last year.

    Thought I would let disabled mser’s know of this change which isn’t advertised anywhere, i.e. no one has been informed by Dvla of this change.

    This was approx 2 weeks ago when I sent all relevant docs to Dvla including check for 50% road tax as I had done since 2013.
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    • venison
    • By venison 1st Sep 17, 9:19 PM
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    I can fully understand that; after all someone could use an original PIP entitlement for ever.
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    • Dandytf
    • By Dandytf 1st Sep 17, 9:24 PM
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    • 1st Sep 17, 9:24 PM
    I can fully understand that; after all someone could use an original PIP entitlement for ever.
    Originally posted by venison
    Arrived after work today.

    On day my road tax expires.

    Whilst I apppreciate your answer, is it only me that thinks Dvla should be advising of this change.

    MS is for life, why this discount is made difficult for disabled drivers is beyond me.

    Online discount would make more sense.

    No harm done , though that was 17th aug since I posted my docs.
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    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 1st Sep 17, 10:44 PM
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    • 1st Sep 17, 10:44 PM
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    • 1st Sep 17, 10:44 PM
    Arrived after work today.

    On day my road tax expires.

    Whilst I apppreciate your answer, is it only me that thinks Dvla should be advising of this change.

    MS is for life, why this discount is made difficult for disabled drivers is beyond me.

    Online discount would make more sense.

    No harm done , though that was 17th aug since I posted my docs.
    Originally posted by Dandytf
    There's a lot of conditions that are for life but 2013 was a long time ago. PIP isn't for life as the longest award is 10 years with review at 9 years. I would expect DVLA to ask for a more up to date award notice.
    • GlasweJen
    • By GlasweJen 2nd Sep 17, 9:09 AM
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    • 2nd Sep 17, 9:09 AM
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    • 2nd Sep 17, 9:09 AM
    There's a lot of conditions that are for life but 2013 was a long time ago. PIP isn't for life as the longest award is 10 years with review at 9 years. I would expect DVLA to ask for a more up to date award notice.
    Originally posted by poppy12345
    I wouldn't, if the award is for 5 years then surely the notice lasts 5 years? The dates are right there on the notice!
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    • w06
    • By w06 2nd Sep 17, 9:16 AM
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    • 2nd Sep 17, 9:16 AM
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    • 2nd Sep 17, 9:16 AM
    for a lot of things it's this year's award letter that's needed, I'd have expected it to be the same for this (but by the sounds of it I'd have been wrong!)
    • Dandytf
    • By Dandytf 2nd Sep 17, 10:30 AM
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    • 2nd Sep 17, 10:30 AM
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    • 2nd Sep 17, 10:30 AM
    for a lot of things it's this year's award letter that's needed, I'd have expected it to be the same for this (but by the sounds of it I'd have been wrong!)
    Originally posted by w06
    Dvla advised this years award letter isníít accepted.

    Which is why Iíve since called pip to request an upto date Statement of Entitlement.

    Only replied to avoid any misinformation.

    Thanks mserís

    At least I and maybe a few mserís know what is required for 50% road tax pip discount.
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    • elle may
    • By elle may 7th Sep 17, 1:38 PM
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    Can't understand this change as i have just received all my documents back after taxing car on 1st Sept. I have used my statement of entitlement from 2016 which has the dates of my award, 3 stamps for the car on it, as we have just changed our car, and have received our rebate as we taxed 2 cars within 3 month's. No one from DVLA said we needed a new statement from PIP.
    • Dandytf
    • By Dandytf 7th Sep 17, 9:11 PM
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    Can't understand this change as i have just received all my documents back after taxing car on 1st Sept. I have used my statement of entitlement from 2016 which has the dates of my award, 3 stamps for the car on it, as we have just changed our car, and have received our rebate as we taxed 2 cars within 3 month's. No one from DVLA said we needed a new statement from PIP.
    Originally posted by elle may
    I had all my docs returned stamps on original pip statement -including 2 previous cars.

    My entitlement statement is from 2012.

    Hopefully I’ll get my new upto date statement next few days or maybe 1 or 2 weeks.

    Nice that your 2016 statement was accepted

    Doesn’t explain what I was advised since I called Dvla on receipt of my returned docs.

    Not too worry, at least I can use my new statment next few years.
    Last edited by Dandytf; 09-09-2017 at 11:22 AM.
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    • Dandytf
    • By Dandytf 9th Sep 17, 11:19 AM
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    Final post for this road tax 50% pip reduction claim.

    Today my brand new upto date stetment of entitlement arrived dated 1st Sept 2017.

    Moving forward I will make use of this statement almost immediately as last advised by dvla to claim difference in cost of paying full rate for 6 mths tax a few weeks ago.

    From March 2018 thankfully I once again have all the required docs to return to 12mths road tax@50% rate.

    Please consider this thread mser’s if faced with a decline for road tax from dvla.
    Last edited by Dandytf; 09-09-2017 at 11:21 AM.
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    • melbury
    • By melbury 10th Sep 17, 10:45 AM
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    When my OH changed his car a couple of years ago the DVLA would not accept his original statement of entitlement as when it had previously been sent to them, somebody had handwritten the old car's registration number on it. So we had to pay full amount and then get a new statement of entitlement and do the whole claim again.

    What I can't understand is that they have full access to all information about who owns what car by just putting in the registration number, so they could see that OH was the registered keeper and the old vehicle had been sold.

    It seems a totally crazy way of having to go about claiming the 50%, surely there could be a simpler way?
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    • Dandytf
    • By Dandytf 10th Sep 17, 1:26 PM
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    [QUOTE=melbury;73104816]When my OH changed his car a couple of years ago the DVLA would not accept his original statement of entitlement as when it had previously been sent to them, somebody had handwritten the old car's registration number on it. So we had to pay full amount and then get a new statement of entitlement and do the whole claim again.

    What I can't understand is that they have full access to all information about who owns what car by just putting in the registration number, so they could see that OH was the registered keeper and the old vehicle had been sold.

    It seems a totally crazy way of having to go about claiming the 50%, surely there could be a simpler way?[/QUOTEoI}

    Since reading your experience I thought maybe as I changed car this year then that's why an upto date statement of entitlement was required, though it couldn't be as I had car changed in 2014 and continued to use original statement until past few weeks.

    I agree why with all the data held, why is disability allowance not yet allowed online.
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    • Prudent
    • By Prudent 10th Sep 17, 2:03 PM
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    I am quite confused by this thread. My PIP entitlement letter states when it is valid to as well as when it started. Why does the DVLA need an update to date letter as they can clearly see from the original how long the award has to run?
    • melbury
    • By melbury 10th Sep 17, 5:13 PM
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    [QUOTE=Dandytf;73105424]
    When my OH changed his car a couple of years ago the DVLA would not accept his original statement of entitlement as when it had previously been sent to them, somebody had handwritten the old car's registration number on it. So we had to pay full amount and then get a new statement of entitlement and do the whole claim again.

    What I can't understand is that they have full access to all information about who owns what car by just putting in the registration number, so they could see that OH was the registered keeper and the old vehicle had been sold.

    It seems a totally crazy way of having to go about claiming the 50%, surely there could be a simpler way?[/QUOTEoI}

    Since reading your experience I thought maybe as I changed car this year then that's why an upto date statement of entitlement was required, though it couldn't be as I had car changed in 2014 and continued to use original statement until past few weeks.

    I agree why with all the data held, why is disability allowance not yet allowed online.
    Originally posted by melbury
    The DVLA argument was that the original statement of entitlement related to a different car as the registration number had been written on it (by them), which is totally ridiculous as I would have thought it related to whatever car that was owned by my OH at that time of applying.

    As I said previously, they have access to all vehicle information, so could see that the new car was indeed registered to my OH and the old car was no longer registered to him.

    That year I had to send documents via Special Delivery a couple of times costing over £13
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