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    • Kshah786
    • By Kshah786 29th Aug 17, 10:05 AM
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    3 Hours free Parking. PCN still recieved.
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    • 29th Aug 17, 10:05 AM
    3 Hours free Parking. PCN still recieved. 29th Aug 17 at 10:05 AM
    Hi, i cant believe how bad my luck is with parking tickets.

    On Sunday i visited Oldham for the first time and decided to check out the Oldham market so parked in a council carpark. It said on a sign board that it is free parking on weekends for 3 hours. So i parked in there and came bk 2 hours later to find a pcn on my screen. I asked the parking attendant that why have a got a ticket when it is free on the weekends. He then told me that i had to display a ticket by pressing the machine. Upon walking closer to the sign stating free weekend parking it stated in small print saying to qualify for free parking i have to display a ticket. To be honest i didnt see the writing at the bottom. (Maybe because i where glasses i didnt notice it).The attendant said to appeal the charge and explain what i had explained to him in the appeal. Any other ideas as to how i can go about this. I have receipts from a shop and a cashpoint receipt. The PCN was from Oldham Council and not a private CPC. Thanks.
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    • Half_way
    • By Half_way 29th Aug 17, 10:42 AM
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    • #2
    • 29th Aug 17, 10:42 AM
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    • 29th Aug 17, 10:42 AM
    follow the advice given, and appeal it.
    it will most likely be rejected at the first hurdle and you will probably need to take it a little further.
    do you have any photos etc/can you get photos?
    Also try posting on pepipoo as this pace specialises in private parking more than council.
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 29th Aug 17, 1:15 PM
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    • 29th Aug 17, 1:15 PM
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    • 29th Aug 17, 1:15 PM
    Yes, register (not a Hotmail email) and post a pic of BOTH SIDES of the PCN, all small print:

    http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=30

    pepipoo win in well over 90% of cases I've seen on that Council PCN forum.

    If I were you, in your appeal, ask for the Parking Places Order relating to the rules in that car park (you can't contravene a sign on street or in a Council car park, only an Order). Hence, you need to be sure the Order is in order(!) and actually creates the issue you've been blamed for and supports the imposition of a PCN for it.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • Kshah786
    • By Kshah786 30th Aug 17, 2:31 AM
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    • 30th Aug 17, 2:31 AM
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    • 30th Aug 17, 2:31 AM
    Yes, register (not a Hotmail email) and post a pic of BOTH SIDES of the PCN, all small print:

    http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=30

    pepipoo win in well over 90% of cases I've seen on that Council PCN forum.

    If I were you, in your appeal, ask for the Parking Places Order relating to the rules in that car park (you can't contravene a sign on street or in a Council car park, only an Order). Hence, you need to be sure the Order is in order(!) and actually creates the issue you've been blamed for and supports the imposition of a PCN for it.
    Originally posted by Coupon-mad

    thanks I will do that. I have posted on pepipoo also.
    • Kshah786
    • By Kshah786 4th Dec 17, 9:04 AM
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    • 4th Dec 17, 9:04 AM
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    • 4th Dec 17, 9:04 AM
    Hi Coupon Mad.
    Just an update. Pepipoo couldnt help me with my appeal so i sent an appeal to the council which then got rejected. I then had an option to appeal to an adjudicator but only after 28 days which meant the price went up from £25 to £50. I then submitted my appeal to the adjudicator and was given a telephone hearing date.

    On the hearing the adjudicator allowed my appeal as the photos of the signs that the council sent in to the adjudicator were not clear enough. should have heard the council crumble of the phone lol. they were very apologetic to the adjudicator. The adjudicator asked the council representative to read one of the signs that they had sent in and she coudnt. On that basis he allowed my appeal.
    thanks
    • nosferatu1001
    • By nosferatu1001 4th Dec 17, 10:02 AM
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    • 4th Dec 17, 10:02 AM
    Well done!
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 4th Dec 17, 11:43 AM
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    • 4th Dec 17, 11:43 AM
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    • 4th Dec 17, 11:43 AM
    Good result. I’m surprised PePiPoo couldn’t help, but nonetheless you’ve won.

    Council tickets should almost always be appealed. They are much more winnable than private parking ticket appeals, especially IPC operator tickets.
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
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