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    • Cezzy
    • By Cezzy 23rd Aug 17, 10:44 AM
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    Regular vs Electric Bike
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    • 23rd Aug 17, 10:44 AM
    Regular vs Electric Bike 23rd Aug 17 at 10:44 AM
    Just looking at treating myself to a new bike. My partner and I love trail biking but I do struggle a bit on some of the uphill bits. As I looked around I also had a go on some electric bikes. I always thought they were really heavy and they were not. Also they look better now. Quite taken by them and it would certainly help me on the difficult bits ! Booked to take one out tomorrow on a proper trail to test.


    Has anyone got one ? Any words of wisdom ?


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    • scd3scd4
    • By scd3scd4 11th Sep 17, 1:27 PM
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    Unfortunately these myths about ebikes won't go away, I guess possibly it's from a lack of experience with the technology as like the post above, a lot of people seem to confuse them with electric mopeds requiring no work from the rider. Which simply isn't true, the rider still needs to pedal the bike but for the same amount of effort they can go further, faster and don't need to worry about hills or head winds.

    I find the snobbery puzzling as well, I'd say I'm a pretty decent bike rider but I'm pleased to see people getting out and enjoy cycling on ebikes. It's strange that there's such criticism for ebike riders but not those with motor vehicles where there genuinely is no effort.

    John
    Originally posted by Johnmcl7
    I thought some bikes don't need you to contribute?
    • scd3scd4
    • By scd3scd4 11th Sep 17, 1:30 PM
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    I looked at Ebikes in depth when I first started to ride to work 4 years ago.

    I thought there was no way I could cycle 10 miles each way. Years later I find it little effort at all and love the fitness. I was glad I never went for one. We have showers and lockers at work. I wear overalls so getting a little sweaty is no big deal.

    There are some beautiful models out there and the technology is coming on fast.
    Last edited by scd3scd4; 11-09-2017 at 4:52 PM.
    • House Martin
    • By House Martin 11th Sep 17, 4:43 PM
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    I thought some bikes don't need you to contribute?
    Originally posted by scd3scd4
    My Izip Ezgo did nt need to have me pedalling at all but their latest models advertise that anything over 8 mph you have to rotate the pedals a little whilst the motor does all the work..So you can just sit there, freezing cold being bored witless , doing virtually nothing. What a terrible way of going a few miles.
    I got mine for my partner and she point blank refused to go on the thing, I dont blame her..Anyone thinking about getting one should try before they buy , and I don t mean a quick run round the block. Do 5 miles on the thing to see if you can stand it.
    They are not popular at all and I rarely see one on the open road. Hard bitten money savers may love them though ! factor in costly batteries every now and then, they don t last forever.
    • scd3scd4
    • By scd3scd4 11th Sep 17, 4:59 PM
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    My Izip Ezgo did nt need to have me pedalling at all but their latest models advertise that anything over 8 mph you have to rotate the pedals a little whilst the motor does all the work..So you can just sit there, freezing cold being bored witless , doing virtually nothing. What a terrible way of going a few miles.
    I got mine for my partner and she point blank refused to go on the thing, I dont blame her..Anyone thinking about getting one should try before they buy , and I don t mean a quick run round the block. Do 5 miles on the thing to see if you can stand it.
    They are not popular at all and I rarely see one on the open road. Hard bitten money savers may love them though ! factor in costly batteries every now and then, they don t last forever.
    Originally posted by House Martin
    Thats depends. I really don't use my second car much now at all. If owning one over a car was the choice then it would be a good one in my view.

    There are two used at my workplace most days and I see a few on my journey to work often.

    Things have moved on miles than a Izip Ezgo let's be fair.
    • RichardD1970
    • By RichardD1970 11th Sep 17, 5:45 PM
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    My Izip Ezgo did nt need to have me pedalling at all but their latest models advertise that anything over 8 mph you have to rotate the pedals a little whilst the motor does all the work..So you can just sit there, freezing cold being bored witless , doing virtually nothing. What a terrible way of going a few miles.
    I got mine for my partner and she point blank refused to go on the thing, I dont blame her..Anyone thinking about getting one should try before they buy , and I don t mean a quick run round the block. Do 5 miles on the thing to see if you can stand it.
    They are not popular at all and I rarely see one on the open road. Hard bitten money savers may love them though ! factor in costly batteries every now and then, they don t last forever.
    Originally posted by House Martin
    No wonder your view of eBikes is so jaded if this




    is your only experience of them.

    Try something like this


    and see what you think.
    • House Martin
    • By House Martin 11th Sep 17, 10:13 PM
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    I must admit I like the look of that, can t see a battery on it anywhere though. Its a bit pricey for an aluminium framed e bike at around £1k rrp and 16kg weight is a big lump to pedal on its own. I would certainly consider that if the doctor found some medical condition which made me slow down a bit.
    My current bike is an absolute dream to ride. So easy to pedal its a delight and just glides over the roads with little friction from the rock hard 23mm thin tyres..A little used Planet X all carbon fibre frame with lightweight quality groupset weighing less than 8kgs you can pick it up with one finger. Very responsive to pedal ,for only £600. That is a bike to aspire to. Lighter the better makes cycling a pleasure IMO. I ll be flying past the leccy bikes.. OK maybe not up the hills !
    • KeithP
    • By KeithP 11th Sep 17, 10:40 PM
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    ...can t see a battery on it anywhere though.
    Originally posted by House Martin
    It's in that saddle bag.
    .
    • RichardD1970
    • By RichardD1970 12th Sep 17, 7:22 AM
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    I must admit I like the look of that, can t see a battery on it anywhere though. Its a bit pricey for an aluminium framed e bike at around £1k rrp and 16kg weight is a big lump to pedal on its own. I would certainly consider that if the doctor found some medical condition which made me slow down a bit.
    My current bike is an absolute dream to ride. So easy to pedal its a delight and just glides over the roads with little friction from the rock hard 23mm thin tyres..A little used Planet X all carbon fibre frame with lightweight quality groupset weighing less than 8kgs you can pick it up with one finger. Very responsive to pedal ,for only £600. That is a bike to aspire to. Lighter the better makes cycling a pleasure IMO. I ll be flying past the leccy bikes.. OK maybe not up the hills !
    Originally posted by House Martin
    It's not about "aspiration" it's about the right tools for the right job.

    Yes your bike is very nice (a bit heavy, my brother's self built comes it at around 6kgs , but he does go all over the Alps and follows the Tour de France circuit regularly) and if I was after a bike for pleasure/leisure/recreation then it would be an option.

    But I don't want to cycle for recreation, I want a commuting vehicle to get me as cheaply and easily to and from work with a minimal amount of effort.

    Horses for courses and all that.
    • Richard53
    • By Richard53 13th Sep 17, 1:35 AM
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    My Izip Ezgo did nt need to have me pedalling at all but their latest models advertise that anything over 8 mph you have to rotate the pedals a little whilst the motor does all the work.
    Originally posted by House Martin
    If that is the case, then the bike is not legal for UK roads. To be considered an EAPC, the power must only come in when the pedals are rotated. You stop pedalling, it stops helping you. If you can have power without pedalling, legally it's a motorbike and needs a helmet, licence, tax and insurance. My ebike has a twist throttle which means you can plod along without pedalling, but that model can no longer be sold here, and I never use it anyway - I can go faster by pedalling.


    I find your attitude very condescending, I'm afraid.
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