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    • Joe980
    • By Joe980 13th Aug 17, 5:52 PM
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    ZZPS pursuing schedule 4 POFA
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    • 13th Aug 17, 5:52 PM
    ZZPS pursuing schedule 4 POFA 13th Aug 17 at 5:52 PM
    Hi all,

    I have spend the past couple of hours looking through the forums and reading Coupon-Mad's extensive list of guidance but I'm not sure I can see anything relevant to the situation I'm in.
    I have already had a formal letter of claim from "Wright Hassall" which I'm gathering are just ZZPS using a letterhead, I responded to that letter with a defence I had seen on this forum relating to the fact that I am the keeper and no driver has been identified etc...

    I was initially sent a PCN via the post from 'Civil Enforcement Ltd' February 2017, I ignored this and subsequent correspondence until the formal letter of claim, I have now been sent a response to my reply stating that I am too late to state that I am not the driver and that I should have done that within 28 days of the PCN - I can't attach a copy of the letter as an image yet... but the url to the image is - i.imgur.com/UcmCnHP.jpg

    I'm just wondering if anyone has had any experience at this stage and can offer any advice on whether I should ignore this, or what reply/defence I can send in relation to this?

    Many thanks!
    Joe
    Last edited by Joe980; 13-08-2017 at 5:59 PM. Reason: add image link
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    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 13th Aug 17, 6:02 PM
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    • #2
    • 13th Aug 17, 6:02 PM
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    • 13th Aug 17, 6:02 PM
    Send an adapted version of Johnersh's letter to WH. Search 'Wright Hassall cathartic' to find it, and change the search to 'show POSTS' (not threads).

    Or, ignore it because CEL file their OWN court claims, they don't use solicitors, this is really only a frightener. Up to you.

    In the end you will be defending a CEL claim (easy enough for a keeper).
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 13th Aug 17, 6:40 PM
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    • #3
    • 13th Aug 17, 6:40 PM
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    • 13th Aug 17, 6:40 PM
    http://i.imgur.com/UcmCnHP.jpg

    Another Tim Hawker load of rubbish

    This is actually from the idiots ZZPS using pimped out letter heading
    of Wright Hassall
    Where they say "Instructed by ZZPS" THEY ACTUALLY MEAN ...
    "ZZPS HAS INSTRUCTED ZZPS

    Follow what coupon-mad has said, but this letter from the Hawker
    bod is well known and to be ignored

    HOWEVER .... It is a very misleading letter where Hawker is trying
    to extort money from you

    Such letters are of interest to Trading Standards as they protect
    people from rogue traders.

    One would have thoughr that after 170 years in business as solicitors,
    Wright Hassall would not stoop so low as to pimp out letterheads ?
    Last edited by beamerguy; 13-08-2017 at 6:55 PM.
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • Joe980
    • By Joe980 17th Aug 17, 8:25 PM
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    • 17th Aug 17, 8:25 PM
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    • 17th Aug 17, 8:25 PM
    Thanks to both,
    I will follow the advice to ignore it and see if they progress it further - In the mean time i'll start drafting my defence for CEL from the other threads here.

    Thanks,
    Joe
    • Softwaremad
    • By Softwaremad 18th Aug 17, 4:39 PM
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    • #5
    • 18th Aug 17, 4:39 PM
    WH or ZZPS referral letter
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    • 18th Aug 17, 4:39 PM
    The question was asked directly in court of Tim Hawker if WH were actually responsible for that letter, it was shut down by the judge with an of course it is as it has WH header on it so it is obviously from them. Tim Hawker had said yes it was theirs also.

    No one wants to admit to renting out headers - ZZPS making referrals are the very dodgy part of this - they do this for many companies regardless - and claims may have the original creditor noted upon them - however questions still arise as to who is actually running the show there.
    • Joe980
    • By Joe980 8th Oct 17, 9:37 PM
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    • #6
    • 8th Oct 17, 9:37 PM
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    • 8th Oct 17, 9:37 PM
    Hi Guys,
    Sorry to bump this up but I'm just curious as to how long I should expect any official correspondence about any court progression on this sort of case?

    The letter they sent me stated they would wait until 23rd August 2017 to give me time to pay - I obviously didn't and ignored their letter (which they sent in response to my defence to them)
    and I haven't heard anything, no letters in the post, nothing, it's now 8th October.

    What are the timescales they have to abide by for these things and would I have heard by now if they were taking it further?

    Thanks,
    Joe
    • Redx
    • By Redx 8th Oct 17, 9:42 PM
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    • #7
    • 8th Oct 17, 9:42 PM
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    • 8th Oct 17, 9:42 PM
    6 years is the statute on issuing an MCOL

    its been that way since 1973 !!!
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 9th Oct 17, 9:11 AM
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    • #8
    • 9th Oct 17, 9:11 AM
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    • 9th Oct 17, 9:11 AM
    This is actually from the idiots ZZPS using pimped out letter heading
    of Wright Hassall
    Where they say "Instructed by ZZPS" THEY ACTUALLY MEAN ...
    "ZZPS HAS INSTRUCTED ZZPS


    Should this not merit a complaint to the SRA?
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 9th Oct 17, 9:56 AM
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    • #9
    • 9th Oct 17, 9:56 AM
    • #9
    • 9th Oct 17, 9:56 AM
    This is actually from the idiots ZZPS using pimped out letter heading
    of Wright Hassall
    Where they say "Instructed by ZZPS" THEY ACTUALLY MEAN ...
    "ZZPS HAS INSTRUCTED ZZPS


    Should this not merit a complaint to the SRA?
    Originally posted by The Deep
    Deep old chap, you of all people know about the "brotherhood"
    of the SRA and it's members ???
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • Joe980
    • By Joe980 9th Oct 17, 9:59 AM
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    6 years is the statute on issuing an MCOL

    its been that way since 1973 !!!
    Originally posted by Redx
    Ok thanks for that, I'm imminently about to Move house and I don't want to suddenly find a CCJ on my name - do you have any advice on who I should write to to change my details? Seeing as I haven't heard anything from them in a while - I was hoping they'd have told me if they weren't pursuing it...
    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 9th Oct 17, 10:29 AM
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    Ok thanks for that, I'm imminently about to Move house and I don't want to suddenly find a CCJ on my name - do you have any advice on who I should write to to change my details? Seeing as I haven't heard anything from them in a while - I was hoping they'd have told me if they weren't pursuing it...
    Originally posted by Joe980
    You advise the PPC, CEL

    Request confirmation they have updated their records.

    They instructed ZZPS to harass you and you have no
    obligation to advise them.

    The responsibility remains with CEL to inform all parties
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
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