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    • shaggydoo
    • By shaggydoo 29th Jul 17, 2:06 PM
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    The Cutting Down / Giving Up Booze Thread (Part 14)
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    • 29th Jul 17, 2:06 PM
    The Cutting Down / Giving Up Booze Thread (Part 14) 29th Jul 17 at 2:06 PM
    Welcome. Here we are again, time for a new thread, new starts and new challenges.

    Let's take a trip down memory lane and remind ourselves of In Search Of Me's (ISOM) original post in Part 1:

    24th February 2008

    Quote:
    In Search Of Me "There are a few of us who want to give up/cut down & I thought it would be good to widen the net to support each other along the way!
    For me alch & feeling good for the time I'm drinking & then rubbish after go hand in hand. A bit like drinking & smoking & drinking & getting the munchies! Last year I gave up alch & fags for 10 months & then "slipped" towards Christmas until by Jan I was doing both with alarming regularity. I dread to think how much both cost me financially and I know physically that I've felt rubbish. My lungs hurt, have put on weight & literally none of my clothes fit so I will have to buy more - which means a dent in my budget that I can ill afford. My skin is also yukky & much nicer when I dont drink/smoke!
    I had my last ciggies the night before last & last wine on Tues. I know I will feel 100% better when I crack it but also know it will be hard. One disadvantage here is that all too often DFW "parties" tend to involve alcohol so I'm also hoping that this can possibly be a safe haven for those of us who want, or need, to abstain, for now at least!
    Anway - I hope that this can be a place of real support for people who are sturggling. I do wonder whether there is a link between debt & drinking as from the Jan thread it was obvious that so many struggle to give up! Plus I know for me that I feel much hapier and in control when I dont drink (or drink in moderation) - which of course begs the question "why do I do it?"! Anyway, I do but will now try not t ad hope some of you wil join in. Some days I know I wil fail, just as I do with my debt free journey and I am more than happy to be given a swift (but nice!) kicking when I do! Hugs all and dare I say... but this time with water!!
    And here's what she started!!! :

    Part 13 is Here

    Part 12 is HERE

    Part 11 is HERE

    Part 10 is HERE

    Part 9 is HERE

    Part 8 is HERE

    Part 7 is HERE

    Part 6 is HERE

    Part 5 is HERE

    Part 4 is HERE

    Part 3 is HERE

    Part 2 is HERE

    and the original starting thread is HERE

    Here is a post from back on thread 1 or 2.

    Quote:
    Springwatch Girl Well, week 5 of no alcohol and I see a different person in the mirror. My eyes no longer look dull and vacant, they actually have a little sparkle and my skin doesn't look like uncooked pastry anymore. I feel that I have won a battle but not yet the war. Hope everyone else is at the point they want to be, I never want to be that person I was, I have been tempted but I just think back to what I had become. The sun is shining at the moment and I feel good and want to continue to have the sun in my life"


    Good Luck Everyone!

    Shaggyx
    What do we do when we fall? We get up, dust ourselves off and start walking in the right direction again. Perhaps when we fall, it is easy to forget there are people along the way who help us stand and walk with us as we get back on track.
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    • Paspatur
    • By Paspatur 30th Nov 17, 12:24 PM
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    Paspatur
    Testing
    Thank you to Wanna be free, Shaggydoo and Honey Bear for your comments
    I have looked at the multi quote instructions but cannot get it to work
    Tech is normally a job for the children or nowadays the grandchildren but not asking in this case
    6/24 for tonight please
    Originally posted by Paspatur
    [QUOTE=Honey Bear;73488065]No, not in this case, Paspartur, I agree. Click on the double bubble at the bottom of the posts you want to multiquite, just on the right of the Quote button. (You can only collect up to three quotes.) At the bottom left of the last post on the page you'll see another blue button - Post Reply. Click on that and a new screen will appear, with the Multiquotes in it.



    Ok let's see if this works?
    • Paspatur
    • By Paspatur 30th Nov 17, 12:25 PM
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    Not quite but think I know what to do now, thank you
    • takingonedayatatime
    • By takingonedayatatime 30th Nov 17, 1:20 PM
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    Hi Everyone especially Mudbath and marcusjr

    I've had a strange week. It was my first birthday i can remember where I didn't drink - and while it felt good to ignore the cravings I would be lying if I said it was easy.

    On the plus side I had all my kids at home for the weekend which was lovely and can't wait for DS1 to be on his university xmas break so he can come back again.

    HoneyBear - I took the test you posted and did it as if I was still drinking and got a score of 19 . That is clearly enough reason for me never to go back to alcohol!

    30/30 for me Shaggy and a target of 31 for December please
    • Arkers
    • By Arkers 30th Nov 17, 2:37 PM
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    Good afternoon,
    17 please Shaggy x
    10 please for December

    Many thanks
    Arkers
    • maman
    • By maman 30th Nov 17, 3:48 PM
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    maman
    It's always great at the end of the month to see the totals rolling in. Well done all. Every AFD counts especially as many of us (me included) might have joined this thread starting from zero!


    I much prefer Happy to Merry as a Christmas salutation HB!


    Sorry to hear you caved in at 9 o'clock WBF. It happens. But it doesn't mean it has to happen every night. Excuse me being nosey but is your DH supportive of your efforts to cut down? I'm asking because if you're drinking because he's away, what happens when he's at home?


    When you quote (or multiquote) paspatur. It's important that you don't accidentally lop of any of the brackets and bits at the beginning or the end of the message. This can be easily done if you do some cutting of the original post.


    I think this must be one of my best ever months. Considering it's just 30 days and I had a week's holiday I'm very pleased with myself.


    16 AFDs please Shaggy.
    • Barny1979
    • By Barny1979 30th Nov 17, 5:25 PM
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    28/26 AFDs total for November
    • Nicnak
    • By Nicnak 30th Nov 17, 7:10 PM
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    17/20 please. I few behind where I wanted to be, but better than last month. x
    September 6th 2017 start Updated 25th NOV 17
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    • Paspatur
    • By Paspatur 30th Nov 17, 7:18 PM
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    Not quite but think I know what to do now, thank you
    Originally posted by Paspatur
    When you quote (or multiquote) paspatur. It's important that you don't accidentally lop of any of the brackets and bits at the beginning or the end of the message. This can be easily done if you do some cutting of the original post.
    Originally posted by maman
    Thank you
    7/24 please
    • CuppaTea
    • By CuppaTea 30th Nov 17, 9:59 PM
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    17/18 for November please
    I'm dealing with stuff.
    • Poor_Single_lady
    • By Poor_Single_lady 1st Dec 17, 1:43 AM
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    Happy December everyone.

    Scraping 3 smilies! 21/24

    Very pleased to be honest. Scaled down the social world dramatically recently but December is December so will be out a little bit like most people.
    2017- 5 credit cards plus loan
    Overdraft And 1 credit card paid off.

    2018 plans - reduce debt
    • maggiem
    • By maggiem 1st Dec 17, 8:46 AM
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    16/15 for November please Shaggy - and like others the thought of the target exceeded smilie helped last night when a half bottle of wine was jumping up and down calling to me. Yes I really am that shallow.

    Can’t believe it is 1st December - gulp and barely a present in the house. May be a very busy time for my I Pad and a certain on line retailer as I am not sure I can face a visit to the high street. At least here although it is cold it is bright and that makes such a difference to my mood from those long grey dark days.
    • Paspatur
    • By Paspatur 1st Dec 17, 8:57 AM
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    Good morning, calling in early for 1/24 for today please
    I know it's early but got 2 of the grandchildren for a sleepover tonight and I don't do kids and alcohol
    Good luck for December everyone, I am lucky as mine does not involve lots of social events. I have retired so no work nights out and Christmas itself revolves around children not alcohol. For example last Christmas Day was 8 adults and 4 children and I was one of only two adults who had alcohol and that was only 2 drinks (until I got home)
    • sukeyboo
    • By sukeyboo 1st Dec 17, 11:17 AM
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    I think this must be one of my best ever months. Considering it's just 30 days and I had a week's holiday I'm very pleased with myself.


    16 AFDs please Shaggy.
    Originally posted by maman
    Well done Maman

    I have reached the same number as you but I didn't have a week's holiday but in my defence it was my birthday this month

    16/14 for yesterday please Shaggy - probably won't be any more until Monday now but alcohol consumption will be moderate over the weekend
    • cathybird
    • By cathybird 1st Dec 17, 2:12 PM
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    Afternoon all, 1/21 for me thanks.
    No. 38 in Save 12K in 2017. £11,846.85/£12,000
    Save 12K in 2016: £20,880.11/£15,000
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    Dec AFDs: 15/21 2017 AFDs: 295/252
    • cathybird
    • By cathybird 1st Dec 17, 2:13 PM
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    Hey yes well done Maman Good to have a good month before December too!
    No. 38 in Save 12K in 2017. £11,846.85/£12,000
    Save 12K in 2016: £20,880.11/£15,000
    Save 12K in 2015: £25,464.86/£10,000
    Dec AFDs: 15/21 2017 AFDs: 295/252
    • Honey Bear
    • By Honey Bear 1st Dec 17, 4:38 PM
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    Honey Bear
    HoneyBear - I took the test you posted and did it as if I was still drinking and got a score of 19 . That is clearly enough reason for me never to go back to alcohol!
    Originally posted by takingonedayatatime
    Well done for being honest, One Day. It takes guts to come clean with oneself and most of us are quite willing to bend the truth when it comes to uncomfortable facts about ourselves.

    I wish they hadn't revamped the website because I'm not sure if they still got into the same level of narrative about what the various scores mean. I know that when I did it, the advice was that although I was still coping relatively well with the amount I was drinking, within a couple of years I would be at a stage when dealing with it, ie stopping, would be a lot, lot harder. When I did it the other day while looking for the link for you the first screen after finishing the test didn't go into that level of detail. It's probably still there somewhere - at least I hope so.

    Mostly I found those sorts of assessment tools utterly useless, because there are clear levels of alcohol consumption - a glass of wine every few weeks, a glass of wine every day with food, a couple of drinks every day, more than a couple of drinks every day, getting p***ed every day, needing a drink to get going in the morning, binge drinking regularly etc. Most questionnaires just say if you're drinking every day, or exceeding 14 units a week (for a woman) you've got a serious problem and you need to do something about it. That's unhelpful because scare-mongering doesn't work.

    If we're worried about our relationship with alcohol because we think we might be drinking too much, we probably are. If that's the case, we need to know roughly where we are on the road to ruin, because the salient fact here is that it never gets better of it's own accord.

    What I like about that questionnaire is that it is, by and large, about behaviour. I hadn't realised just how predictable the result of drinking too much is - I can see the progression as I worked through the list of things that had either happened to me, or I had observed in other people.

    It's realistic and informative, not judgemental, and that is incredibly helpful. I trust facts, I'm not interested in opinions unless the person delivering the opinion is professionally qualified to pontificate on the subject, like a doctor or a nurse specialist. I'm not that sure about 'addiction experts' because it's a question of how much training they've had and who provided the training. I'd never put my faith in a drying out facility for example that followed the model which states I am helpless over alcohol - and anyone who needs me to say I am before they will engage with me is not someone I trust.


    Happy December everyone.

    Scraping 3 smilies! 21/24

    Very pleased to be honest. Scaled down the social world dramatically recently but December is December so will be out a little bit like most people.
    Originally posted by Poor_Single_lady
    PSL that's an amazing score considering where you were when you joined this thread!

    16/15 for November please Shaggy - and like others the thought of the target exceeded smilie helped last night when a half bottle of wine was jumping up and down calling to me. Yes I really am that shallow.

    Canít believe it is 1st December - gulp and barely a present in the house. May be a very busy time for my I Pad and a certain on line retailer as I am not sure I can face a visit to the high street. At least here although it is cold it is bright and that makes such a difference to my mood from those long grey dark days.
    Originally posted by maggiem
    We're all that shallow when it comes to prizes for good behaviour!

    I used to work in the city centre and was amazed to realise that no-one goes shopping early any more. When I was a kid the high street was busy on my way to school at 8.30, now it's dead at 9.00 am. On the days when it snows it's empty until at least 10.30 am.

    Having said that each year I buy less and less for Christmas and enjoy it more and more. I certainly don't want the house cluttered up with stuff, having spent the past four years emptying it to the charity shops, Ebay, Gumtree, the scrapstore, the recyling centre and the tip. I loathe the cheap, tatty, over-commercialisation of it and I'm not buying into it any more - pun intended. No-one seemed to turn a hair when Christmas stuff started appearing in the shop this year BEFORE the August bank holiday. I'm happily making a few presents this year for people who've seen stuff I've made and said they'd love one (of whatever). They can take it to the charity shops, Ebay, Gumtree, the scrapstore, the recyling centre and the tip if they didn't mean it.

    1/30 please Shaggy.
    Keeping it AF
    • Barny1979
    • By Barny1979 1st Dec 17, 5:27 PM
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    1/21 AFDs today
    • Arkers
    • By Arkers 1st Dec 17, 6:01 PM
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    Good afternoon,
    1 please Shaggy
    Arkers x
    • takingonedayatatime
    • By takingonedayatatime 1st Dec 17, 9:25 PM
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    Honey Bear - I needed those words tonight. Husband out for his Christmas night out and I've had a busy day ferrying everyone around. Finally sat down an hour ago and been reading sober blogs since.. the desire to drink is huge so reading your post has helped enormously.

    Off to bed I think - Thank you again x
    • Mudbath
    • By Mudbath 1st Dec 17, 10:21 PM
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    Hiya, 1/20 for me please.

    I was nearly de-railed at the first hurdle when my last client of the day gave me a bottle of fizz for Christmas (I won't be seeing her again until January). It was sitting there calling at me and normally I'd have had a glass and, because it's the weekend, then had another. Then, of course, I'd be finishing the bottle tomorrow night.

    I managed to resist by having a gorgeous hot chocolate (mentioned earlier in this thread so thank you). Funnily enough I didn't fancy fizz then . I'm actually thinking of re-gifting the wine so it's not a temptation but that feels a bit mean.

    Anyway, hope you all have a lovely weekend xx
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