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    • WelshKitty85
    • By WelshKitty85 8th Oct 17, 8:37 PM
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    WelshKitty85
    The application would not be left open indefinitely but we would need to decide if we go with the new plan suggested by us or revert to what was for example already registered.
    Your seller should contact us to query position and timescales
    Can you tell me when you emailed us please as we should always reply an d the email address/form used?
    Originally posted by Land Registry
    Thanks for the reply. I have emailed customer.service@landregistry.gov.uk and citizencentre.walesoffice@landregistry.gov.uk on 28/9, 3/10 & 5/10. I haven't had a response to any of the emails.
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  • Land Registry
    Hello, Mx Land Registry.

    What's the timescale like at the moment for dealing with a Deed of Rectification? Our seller and their freeholder have finally managed to to draw up a draft Deed of Variation to correct a defective lease (the title plan showed the wrong flat in the block). How long can we expect to wait after they've submitted it?

    I've heard the process can be expedited - how long will it take if they do that?
    Originally posted by LdnFtB
    Average timescale until consideration/registration 57 working days. If expedited then around 10. Then it's all about it being in order
    Official Company Representative
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  • Land Registry
    Thanks for the reply. I have emailed customer.service@landregistry.gov.uk and citizencentre.walesoffice@landregistry.gov.uk on 28/9, 3/10 & 5/10. I haven't had a response to any of the emails.
    Originally posted by WelshKitty85
    Many thanks - nothing leaps out at me from our records but without the email address/name used I can't pinpoint with any accuracy.

    Can you email customer.service again please and let me know once done - I can then spot and pick it up and run some additional checks. Apologies but hopefully you won't mind
    Last edited by Land Registry; 09-10-2017 at 9:20 AM.
    Official Company Representative
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    • Ragtimeplayer
    • By Ragtimeplayer 9th Oct 17, 9:46 AM
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    Ragtimeplayer
    Good morning LR,
    We bought a house and completed the sale in May this year that was previously unregistered. My solicitor said that it would be registered officially within about a month after the sale. I went onto your property alert service as I would like to be notified if anything changes on my property. Unfortunately, it says it is unavailable.

    The following is a cut and paste from your site regarding this.


    Note - If tenure is set to unavailable it may be for one of the following reasons: we have been unable to electronically match the property details given with our records, or the titles have not been linked to the address in the database (e.g. because at the time of registration the address was not known or was different in some way to the address supplied to us by the Post Office).

    Is there any way I can find out if the property is now registered and showing us as the owners?
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  • Land Registry
    Good morning LR,
    We bought a house and completed the sale in May this year that was previously unregistered. My solicitor said that it would be registered officially within about a month after the sale. I went onto your property alert service as I would like to be notified if anything changes on my property. Unfortunately, it says it is unavailable.

    The following is a cut and paste from your site regarding this.


    Note - If tenure is set to unavailable it may be for one of the following reasons: we have been unable to electronically match the property details given with our records, or the titles have not been linked to the address in the database (e.g. because at the time of registration the address was not known or was different in some way to the address supplied to us by the Post Office).

    Is there any way I can find out if the property is now registered and showing us as the owners?
    Originally posted by Ragtimeplayer
    It reads as if the registration has yet to be completed. Unfortunately the average timescale is nearer 3 months currently so a month may have been a tad optimistic. However May until now is still a lot longer than 3 months although often the application is not submitted for a few weeks after completion

    You can double check by searching the address in our Find a Property service as well. If that returns a negative result then that reaffirms that it has not as yet been registered.

    You can also ask your solicitor for the new title number and search the same service, using detailed enquiry.
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
    • WelshKitty85
    • By WelshKitty85 9th Oct 17, 12:24 PM
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    WelshKitty85
    Many thanks - nothing leaps out at me from our records but without the email address/name used I can't pinpoint with any accuracy.

    Can you email customer.service again please and let me know once done - I can then spot and pick it up and run some additional checks. Apologies but hopefully you won't mind
    Originally posted by Land Registry
    I've just sent another email.

    Thank you.
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  • Land Registry
    I've just sent another email.

    Thank you.
    Originally posted by WelshKitty85
    I can see we have had a number of emails from you dating back as far as the 8th September.
    Our records refer to your being advised of the current situation on the 4th October although I can see no record of an email reply.
    If nobody contacted you on the 4th then apologies but I note a reply has been issued to your email of today explaining the current position.
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
    • Ragtimeplayer
    • By Ragtimeplayer 9th Oct 17, 4:15 PM
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    Ragtimeplayer
    It reads as if the registration has yet to be completed. Unfortunately the average timescale is nearer 3 months currently so a month may have been a tad optimistic. However May until now is still a lot longer than 3 months although often the application is not submitted for a few weeks after completion

    You can double check by searching the address in our Find a Property service as well. If that returns a negative result then that reaffirms that it has not as yet been registered.

    You can also ask your solicitor for the new title number and search the same service, using detailed enquiry.
    Originally posted by Land Registry
    This is what it says, do I need to get in touch with my original solicitor?

    Tenure: Unavailable

    Price Paid/Value Stated Data:
    Sorry, there is no price paid/value stated information available for this property.
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    • WelshKitty85
    • By WelshKitty85 9th Oct 17, 5:01 PM
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    WelshKitty85
    I can see we have had a number of emails from you dating back as far as the 8th September.
    Our records refer to your being advised of the current situation on the 4th October although I can see no record of an email reply.
    If nobody contacted you on the 4th then apologies but I note a reply has been issued to your email of today explaining the current position.
    Originally posted by Land Registry
    Thank you. Can you please let me know
    1) if the neighbour doesn't respond by the deadline how long it is likely to take Land Registry to make a decision?
    2) if he challenges it again before the deadline what happens next?

    We're in a bit of a panic as we are due a baby in the next few weeks and weren't prepared for him to arrive before we complete and move house. We just need to know now if it's unlikely to complete before baby arrives so we can change our plans.
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  • Land Registry
    Thank you. Can you please let me know
    1) if the neighbour doesn't respond by the deadline how long it is likely to take Land Registry to make a decision?
    2) if he challenges it again before the deadline what happens next?

    We're in a bit of a panic as we are due a baby in the next few weeks and weren't prepared for him to arrive before we complete and move house. We just need to know now if it's unlikely to complete before baby arrives so we can change our plans.
    Originally posted by WelshKitty85
    It's rarely possible to be precise re timescales as there are often competing priorities. However I note you have competing priorities too so I'll check with the local office and email you a reply
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • Land Registry
    This is what it says, do I need to get in touch with my original solicitor?

    Tenure: Unavailable

    Price Paid/Value Stated Data:
    Sorry, there is no price paid/value stated information available for this property.
    Originally posted by Ragtimeplayer
    Nothing to view means it's unregistered.

    Yes, get in touch with your solicitor to make sure all ok if you need to. They should be able to advise and if there is an urgency to getting it registered then they can deal with that too as they lodged it with us
    Official Company Representative
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    • bikeman17
    • By bikeman17 10th Oct 17, 7:37 AM
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    bikeman17
    My girlfriend and I looking to buy a flat together. I own a house on BTL. Would I need to pay the 3% extra tax on the second property. We are currently renting.
  • Land Registry
    My girlfriend and I looking to buy a flat together. I own a house on BTL. Would I need to pay the 3% extra tax on the second property. We are currently renting.
    Originally posted by bikeman17
    We don't deal with tax issues I'm afraid. I'd suggest posting on the wider forum for advice on this
    Official Company Representative
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    • G_M
    • By G_M 10th Oct 17, 11:50 AM
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    G_M
    My girlfriend and I looking to buy a flat together. I own a house on BTL. Would I need to pay the 3% extra tax on the second property. We are currently renting.
    Originally posted by bikeman17
    Yes of course. You are buying a 2nd property. That is what the tax on 2nd properties is designed for.
  • jamesd
    My girlfriend and I looking to buy a flat together. I own a house on BTL. Would I need to pay the 3% extra tax on the second property. We are currently renting.
    Originally posted by bikeman17
    Maybe. From the consultation document:

    "A owns both a main residence and a second home. She sells her main residence and purchases a new one. Although she has two properties at the end of the day of the transaction, she has replaced her main residence so the higher rates will not apply."

    Unfortunately for you, you can't sell your rented main residence so this doesn't apply to you. Rarely it could make sense to buy a cheap interest in a place first so you do fall within this exemption.

    However, only you own, not your girlfriend.

    Did you ever sell a place that was your main residence? If you ever did, however long ago, that's enough to get you out of it if you complete before 26 November 2018.

    Did she ever sell? If you're married on the day of completion that would save you, but not if you aren't. Provided completion is before 26 November 2018.

    Is the BTL worth more than 40,000? Is the part owned by you worth more than 40,000? Will you still own a portion worth more than 40,000 at the time of the purchase?

    The part you're buying also has to be worth more than 40,000 for the tax to be due. You could be able to buy less than that.

    Have a read of The all-important rule that could see you escape paying higher rates of Stamp Duty The rules are quite complicated so getting advice from the solicitor you plan to use for conveyancing would be sensible.

    The easy answer is yes but that assumes the flat is in a non-cheap area and it is worth thinking about the no cases because they might apply now or by the time of completion.
    Last edited by jamesd; 10-10-2017 at 5:09 PM.
    • Mojisola
    • By Mojisola 10th Oct 17, 4:27 PM
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    Mojisola
    No. From the consultation document:

    "A owns both a main residence and a second home. She sells her main residence and purchases a new one. Although she has two properties at the end of the day of the transaction, she has replaced her main residence so the higher rates will not apply."

    So long as it's to be your main residence it's fine. Do discuss with your conveyancing solicitor, of course.
    Originally posted by jamesd
    That's a completely different scenario.

    bikeman isn't selling his main residence and buying another house to live in - "My girlfriend and I looking to buy a flat together. I own a house on BTL."
    • koolishy65
    • By koolishy65 10th Oct 17, 4:57 PM
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    koolishy65
    wrong detail
    hi i am thinking to buy a house but on a deeds street name and post code is wrong is that easy to change? and how long it take to update correct detail ? or should i pull out?. thanks
    • G_M
    • By G_M 10th Oct 17, 6:49 PM
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    G_M
    My girlfriend and I looking to buy a flat together. I own a house on BTL. Would I need to pay the 3% extra tax on the second property. We are currently renting.
    Originally posted by bikeman17
    bikeman - ignore jamesd's post above. It contains misinformation, as well as focussing on a scenario which does not equate to yours.


    The only way you can avoid the additional SDLT would be to first sell your BTL property.

    Neither you nor your girlfriend would then own any property, and hence neither of you would be buying a 2nd property.
  • jamesd
    Instead of saying what I posted is wrong, try doing what I did and pointing to a reputable source that says so and contradicts the one I gave. if you do and it shows I'm wrong I'll be happy to edit my post to incorporate the correction.

    What Mojilola quoted is an accidentally posted incomplete draft that was accidentally posted. The text in the draft wasn't complete and that meant it was wrong when it was posted.

    bikeman17 can simply read the source i linked to, consider the value of the property, consider whether they might get married before completion and consider whether it's worth doing any transactions involving the BTL property that might improve their position.

    Part of what I try to do here is explain and point to possible ways that the position can be improved. No just guess at a property value, whether they might or might not plan to get married before completion or whether one of them might have previously sold a residence.

    The only way you can avoid the additional SDLT would be to first sell your BTL property.
    Originally posted by G_M
    That is not necessarily true, as the source I linked to explains. The easiest way to avoid it is just to be under the value threshold but either of them having sold a residence before could do that if they plan to get married before completion and if completion happens within the time limit. And so says the reputable source I linked to, so if you believe otherwise, you might try linking to a reputable source saying otherwise.
    • someboody
    • By someboody 10th Oct 17, 8:21 PM
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    someboody
    Hi guys,

    I'm trying to find out the contact details of the owner of a property and want to find out whether the owner will be informed that I conducted a search on his/her property?

    At the moment, I'd like to stay anonymous and don't want to alert the owner that a search has been conducted on his/her property for fear that the owner may try to abscond as I need to serve legal documents to the owner.

    Bearing this in mind, is it possible to pay the 3 to get a copy of the title register for that property without the owner being informed?

    Would really appreciate if anyone knowledgeable could kindly advise me on this.

    Many thanks
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