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    • Slinky
    • By Slinky 19th Jul 17, 2:04 PM
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    KonMari 2017 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up
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    • 19th Jul 17, 2:04 PM
    KonMari 2017 - The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up 19th Jul 17 at 2:04 PM
    Since there seems to be a few new threads being started in case old ones are accidentally lost, shall I do the same for KonMari?

    Here's the links to the old threads with thanks to VfM4meplse and greent

    2016

    2015

    'The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up' by Marie Kondo is a home organisation/ decluttering book like no other. Instead of looking for things to discard, Marie Kondo says we should instead look for things we wish to keep - using the 'does it spark joy?' method. Ultimately this means that everything in our homes should spark joy for us You might not think that everyday and seemingly mundane items can't spark joy - but you need to think around it a little. So whilst an iron may not spark joy, wearing ironed clothes may. A cheese grater may not spark joy, but your child may really like grated cheese in their wraps - which brings joy.

    Marie Kondo also says that this should be done quickly and properly. This may take six months to achieve, but tidying properly should mean doing it just once. This is against the often-seen decluttering advice of doing 15 minutes a day, or a drawer/ shelf a day.

    MK suggests an order as to what to sort through first and subsequently. This is important - she starts with items which many people do not have an emotional attachment to (clothes) and builds up to sentimental items (photos) so that a person's joy-meter can be developed along the way.

    Many MSE-ers have been following the KM method (kondo-ing) successfully. It fits into the MSE ethos by changing your mindse - you will no longer want to shop mindlessly for something 'just because' or 'it'll do' - you will want to buy only joyful items, thereby often saving ££ on random, impulse purchases.
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    • minnie2
    • By minnie2 7th Oct 17, 7:31 PM
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    Thats what i thought theres no place for them theyve been everywhere include bathroom cabinet.well decision made they are gone :-)
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    • Siebrie
    • By Siebrie 7th Oct 17, 8:56 PM
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    I kondoed my last two wisdom teeth over the last twe weeks, one by the dentist and one by a specialist at the hospital. This affected me more than I thought it would. It's been ten days, and I am still in pain; it's wearing me out. I sleep badly at night, still taking paracetamol and ibuprofen, and had a nap this afternoon; I can't really concentrate at work. It's showing in my face and styling (this fleece cardi really needs to go...). I'll take it easy for a few more days, but then it's really time to step back into my normal life. I have huge admiration for everyone in constant pain who manages to lead a cheerful life and manages to kondo!
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    • minnie2
    • By minnie2 7th Oct 17, 9:34 PM
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    Im on codeine...are you able to take that?
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    • minnie2
    • By minnie2 7th Oct 17, 9:52 PM
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    Also if youve been pulled about a bit it may be worth seeing an osteopath especially if youve been knocked out your body lies in funny positions when you don't have control of it and your jaw may not quite be in right place or your neck thatll affect it all too
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    • pinky_p
    • By pinky_p 7th Oct 17, 10:34 PM
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    Siebrie, this happened to me after having a wisdom tooth out. I was in so much pain even after 10 days. It turned out to be an infection and I was given antibiotics by my dentist which sorted the problem.
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 8th Oct 17, 5:53 AM
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    Sounds ghastly, Siebrie.

    I've had all four of my wisdoms out, one at a time at the dentist over the years, and never suffered like that. I think you might have an infection and should go back asap. The worst I suffered was a dull ache for about 3 days and a yellowish bruise on my jaw the one time (me being me, I hammed it up something rotten and kept telling people they should've seen the state of my opponent ).

    Family are up today so we'll be kondo-ing fenceposts and various other projects around the allotment. I will also be kondo-ing three towels to Mum & Dad but, since I only bought them yesterday and they'll be gone in less than 24 hrs, I don't think I can really count them.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • oceanspirit
    • By oceanspirit 8th Oct 17, 7:45 AM
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    Masses of paper went through the shredder and into the recycling bin yesterday. Filing cabinet has had its annual clearout ready for tax return to be completed plus piles from the desk and other areas have been sorted through.

    One desk drawer cleared out and random cables, 3D glasses and various other unidentified objects are ready to leave for recycling etc.

    More office to be done today - another desk drawer which is crammed full of stuff that I know I'll find difficult to get rid of because of dear old Justin but I will deal with it as I'm desperate to change this huge desk for a much smaller one.

    I was thinking yesterday that I've not made much progress despite Kondoing for a couple of years now, however when I consider how many piles were in here before and how jam packed and overloaded the bookshelves were, there has been an improvement over that time. Also, the reading pile was completely out of control whereas now it is all current items so I've managed to keep on top of it since I started to tackle it.
    • kittie
    • By kittie 8th Oct 17, 8:16 AM
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    yes oceanspirit, thats the ticket, as long as what comes in is less than what is going out, then there is progress

    I packed all my christmas presents last night, standing up at my ironing board. Used all hm cotton zipped bags and things I had bought over the past few years. It was a very nice way to remove stuff. While at it, I have bagged a lot of costume jewellery for the cs and re-covered the ironing board (leifheit) with padding and a cotton top, stored for three years. I took stuff to the tip yesterday, have another bag ready and have added to the cs trolley and I can physically see the empty space created via the large cavern under my bed

    Gosh this KM is so engrossing, a very nice challenge. I must, really must keep on at the over-stuffed freezers, I dreamt about them last night. I cannot see me putting this house up for sale until early spring but I need to empty the small garage chest freezer by then and just have enough left in the big upright freezer. Plans are to get removals co to first remove garage/workshop/garden stuff to new house before I even start to pack this house. Dreams eh!! I haven`t seen a house yet. I tell a lie, the area is wrong

    I looked further afield, only online as I am not going to disturb vendors unless I am certain enough. Small market town but very touristy, with a waitrose. Several suitable properties there but very much more expensive and surrounded by houses, people and traffic, I could not pop out on ,my bike or cycle down to the nature reserves. My throat sticks in my stomach at the thought, I don`t care for shopping or making small talk with strangers in waitrose for my entertainment. Yes I have looked from outside the box and feel very settled now in what I am looking for, just 2 miles away. I need to keep on with KM because of the big possibility of me being in less square footage
    • PollyWollyDoodle
    • By PollyWollyDoodle 8th Oct 17, 8:34 AM
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    Oceanspirit, I wish I'd taken some photos of the charity bags and tip run collections I've done, just so I could remind myself of how much I've cleared.

    In the same way that I was able to ignore the clutter around me most of the time, we quickly adapt to change and so I have almost forgotten what my home used to look like - piles of stuff on top of the bookcase and c-o-d, carrier bags of papers, craft stuff and so on. I don't want to be reminded of it, but occasionally I think it would be good to have a 'before' and 'after' photo to give me a boost!
    "Inconceivable". "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 8th Oct 17, 10:33 AM
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    You are doing so well, you've obviously had some traumatic things in your life. Freeing the ashes is a brilliant thing to do. I think if the handbag makes you feel happy, because you survived, then keep it, scars and all. It doesn't sound as if that's the case though, so I would let it go.
    Originally posted by PollyWollyDoodle
    Thats true, and good advice.

    On difficult days, which we all have sometimes, I feel better just not sitting and looking at piles of clutter. The mental effect of having less stuff around is incredible, and I really wish I had learned this earlier in life - I feel free to do things rather than think about them, and that's quite a change. Keep going!
    Thats my aim! I'm not there yet (and things just reversed yesterday, as lots of inherited gubbins that I *wanted* made their way into my home), but it will be, soon enough.

    On Thursday I (with permission) I kondoed a great pile of newspapers, magazines and post at elderly mother's home. Today when I visited she handed me Thursday and Friday's newspapers and a couple of brochures for the re-cycling, great progress
    Originally posted by maddiemay
    My mum always seemed like she had great organisational skills, but she didn't - in the photos, in the finance papers, and in the genealogy papers, all of which are down to me to sort, everything is all over the place - dates, types, they're everywhere. Plus food stored all over the house, some of it wildly out of date, and impossible to actually KM because of it all. I still don't have all the genealogy papers here, but I have a lot. It'll do! Working on it today.

    Oceanspirit, I wish I'd taken some photos of the charity bags and tip run collections I've done, just so I could remind myself of how much I've cleared.
    Originally posted by PollyWollyDoodle
    Taking photos of what I was letting go was essential - whether it was for "I might need it" or "I like it but I'll never need it", it really helped

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    • catshark88
    • By catshark88 8th Oct 17, 1:42 PM
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    A bag of glassware went off to the recycling bin this morning (not nice enough for CS), along with some outgrown school uniform.

    I then Kondoed my ornaments and washed the keepers. Only a few things to go, but it all helps, if I move next year.

    I'm listening to the "Spark Joy" book. Some repetition, but it goes into her philosophy in a bit more detail, so it's v interesting.

    Happy Sunday everyone.
    "Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful." William Morris
    • minnie2
    • By minnie2 8th Oct 17, 2:14 PM
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    So two bags gone to the tip :-) while my children were playing at grandma and grandads.i had them in the car so while they were playing outside with grandads drone i popped to recycling centre . think thats the best way for me to clear stuff have it in the car and when he opportunity presents itself go for it.

    So we are visiting my mum today she lives over an hour away so it has to be planned visits.ive been working on the boys room since august before finding marie kondo and before i was efficient grabbing the odd hour when they see their nanny and grandad who are just round the city .the boy says on the way to my mums today are you just dropping us off for a little bit? I said no i am staying why? He says you NEED to drop us off coz you NEED to go home and tidy my room.i had great delight in telling him that i had FINISHED his room and it was now his responsibility to keep it tidy so he has space to play with all his toys!! :-)
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    • minnie2
    • By minnie2 8th Oct 17, 2:17 PM
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    Catshark i couldnt find the audio version of that.where did you find it?
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    • kittie
    • By kittie 8th Oct 17, 3:19 PM
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    I am glad to see that there are others beavering away, Minnie, small children, so innocent and starightforward

    I am very hot now and tired, last week I honestly thought I had finished but it was that reality of smaller square footage, sparked me into life again. I won`t be compromising on the garden though.

    Utility first today, filled two black bags easily and spaced everything else out on the built in shelves, used three of those collapsing grey baskets as well as free standing stuff. Took husbands slatted shelves off the wall and also the high purpose made hangers for coat hangers as it is a fantastic drying room but I did have a tonne of sports clothing to wash then. The green first aid box has gone off the wall and all screws and rawlplugs are out of the wall. Went to tip at that point

    Decided then that my hall looked too dark but why as it is a light place? Doh, the large dark wall hanging from peru, took it down and the pole and it was a miracle. One thing led to another, more unscrewing, more moving out, this time a chunky grey freestanding coat hanger. Ordered a very expensive and lovely light oak and white japanese designer scandi-style freestanding coat rack, that white wall needed something. This new rack will fit in with all my best living room furniture, for ever and I am not thinking of the cost, not been on a holiday and it is cheaper than that

    14 holes in the wall are now filled, sanded and painted. The wall hangings languishing in my ottoman will be re-used, even if only in a log cabin

    Quick update e mail sent to offspring, I keep them updated. I asked them not to buy ornaments or toiletries for christmas. I had hanging ornaments from one dd and her dd, love to grandma etc etc and a mums love etc but I would rather she phoned, she never does, only an e mail now and then but very lovey dovey. Grhhh, she went to pieces when her dad died, treated him the same way, you would think she had learnt. The other two are always in touch. I do ring her but she never answers. Those two ornaments are going to cs in a couple of weeks, she won`t know. She hardly ever visits, no time, getting food ready for the week, seeing to horses blah blah
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    • Upsy Staffordshire
    • By Upsy Staffordshire 8th Oct 17, 3:27 PM
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    Kittie - You are very organised I was thinking of wrapping the Christmas presents I have bought too, but have run out of time due to getting ready to move, so have packed them all into boxes and will wrap when we have moved in. I love getting things like that done early and then smiling to myself when everyone else around me starts panicking a few weeks before the big day

    Well, I had big plans to completely empty the garage yesterday of anything we're not taking to the new house, but it turned out to be a much bigger job than I thought. We did take a car-load of stuff to the tip though, so we've made a good start.

    Brought a set of drawers that were relegated to the garage because we don't really have room for them back into the house and gave them a good clean. They will be perfect for storing stationery etc and putting the printer on top of at the new house, so I'm really glad I kept them.

    Hopefully, we'll be able to finish sorting the garage out next weekend. We did spend the afternoon yesterday flat-packing furniture in the spare room and packing things in there that we won't urgently need before the move too, so there's room in there now to store those drawers and more boxes as we pack more nearer to moving day.

    We've spent this afternoon kondoing store cupboard ingredients into shortbread and sunshine bread (fruit bread recipe by Jack Munroe) The shortbread didn't turn out right because we messed up the oven temperature so it's a bit dark, but it still tastes nice, so who cares

    Hope everyone's had a fab weekend!
    Thank you to everyone who posts on here
    • Knit Witch
    • By Knit Witch 8th Oct 17, 4:01 PM
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    Ironing board used for 2 things: when I have the sewing machine out and when I need an extra sorting surface...
    Originally posted by short_bird
    Oh good! someone else uses it for putting the sewing machine on (or do you press your sewing as you go?)
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    • short_bird
    • By short_bird 8th Oct 17, 4:45 PM
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    Oh good! someone else uses it for putting the sewing machine on (or do you press your sewing as you go?)
    Originally posted by Knit Witch
    Pressing as I go!
    I think the ironing board would rock a bit with the machine on it...
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    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 8th Oct 17, 5:06 PM
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    Pressing as I go!
    I think the ironing board would rock a bit with the machine on it...
    Originally posted by short_bird
    I'd hate to have my sewing machine on my rather rickety ironing board - I could see a very expensive repair bill incoming as it hit the deck.

    Actually, my ironing board is perfectly sound as long as you don't try moving it, once unfolded, without holding the lever bit. If you don't, it collapses like a party girl at the races.

    Parental units have just left and taken three of the 'new' towels with them. I bought them in a chazzer on Saturday afternoon, home and straight into the washer for a 90 degree wash, dried overnight and the folks have three and I have five of the smaller ones, one of which is now in the bathroom. Pretty pleased.

    Dad (not a skilled consumer) looked at one and said they come from Firstname Surname as he read off the name tape. We gently explained that this was the previous owner's name not some giant of retail.

    I realied that, despite having lived in my own household for north of thirty years, I have never in my life found it necessary to buy a new towel from a shop.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • catshark88
    • By catshark88 8th Oct 17, 6:30 PM
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    Catshark i couldnt find the audio version of that.where did you find it?
    Originally posted by minnie2
    It's on Amazon, though I bought it through Audible. You have to select the "show all formats" button to get to the audiobook.
    "Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be useful, or believe to be beautiful." William Morris
    • minnie2
    • By minnie2 8th Oct 17, 6:58 PM
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    Ah thank you! ! I listened to her first on you tube
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