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    • Knit Witch
    • By Knit Witch 18th Jul 17, 8:29 PM
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    Knit Witch
    The Garden Fence - proper Old Style support and chat!
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    • 18th Jul 17, 8:29 PM
    The Garden Fence - proper Old Style support and chat! 18th Jul 17 at 8:29 PM
    As threads are going walkabout I thought I would start the next stage of this off - I will try and do the links later!
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    • LameWolf
    • By LameWolf 12th Mar 18, 5:48 PM
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    I don't think they can make us have them Charis and I'd have told her where to go if she had done that to me. Good for you for not being bullied!
    Originally posted by mardatha
    Pardon me for butting into this thread, I often lurk but don't post. But I had to comment here.

    No, Smart Meters are categorically NOT compulsory.
    Take a look at Post #34 on this thread:

    Malc, the E-ON rep on this forum says:
    "To confirm, smart meters are optional and customers can refuse any offer to have them put in."
    If your dog thinks you're the best, don't seek a second opinion.
    • Hard Up Hester
    • By Hard Up Hester 12th Mar 18, 6:06 PM
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    Hard Up Hester
    Ivyleaf I have phoned to enquire when my next appointment is but all I am told is ' it's not due yet' I possibly should push harder but I'm currently spending every day knee deep in childcare duties it's on my to do list. Hopefully DD2 will need me less in a few weeks, mind you then DD1 may require help.
    Chin up, Titus out.
    • FurryBeastOz
    • By FurryBeastOz 12th Mar 18, 6:26 PM
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    Pardon me for butting into this thread, I often lurk but don't post. But I had to comment here.

    No, Smart Meters are categorically NOT compulsory.
    Take a look at Post #34 on this thread:

    Malc, the E-ON rep on this forum says:
    "To confirm, smart meters are optional and customers can refuse any offer to have them put in."
    Originally posted by LameWolf
    Hello LameWolf Iíve just spent today arguing about this. Apparently to change from Economy 7 to regular meter as tenants we have to have a smart meter. I will fight back.
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    • nursemaggie
    • By nursemaggie 12th Mar 18, 7:40 PM
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    Nothing serious ivyleaf Yesterday I thought I would have a rest as I seem to be dominating the thread too much.

    This morning I woke about ten, got up and sat down at my computer, woke up 3 hours later to a blank screen. I did read the thread at some point, I turned on a you tube video I keep trying to watch, it's a bit long and I keep falling asleep. I woke up sneezing and with a runny nose and promptly used about 10 tissues in a row. I have slept another hour.

    I then got dinner ready and half way, through including the problem of coping with a runny nose while cooking, I found my self cooking two different meals at once. I put 4 big fat sausages in the oven opened two tins of beans, cooked 4 slices of toast, took 4 eggs out of the fridge and was just about to put oven chips in the oven when I realised I was cooking two meals at once. The chips went back in the freezer and we had beans on toast eggs and sausages. I did ask DS if he thought I should go and see the doctor.

    I got up from the table and promptly fell asleep again. I did set a video going and changed my mind when I say it was 3 hours 10 mins long. This guys videos seem to average 2 Hours 30 mins. I wont send you any of his. I don't know how he manages to put out three a week.

    I think I ought to give in to this cold and go and sleep it off. I just hope DS does not get it on Wednesday as colds effect him like this too. Apparently he went to sleep at work with a case of bacon in his hands, That would be about 25 kg, back in October.
    Last edited by nursemaggie; 12-03-2018 at 8:07 PM.
    • ivyleaf
    • By ivyleaf 12th Mar 18, 7:44 PM
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    Thanks for posting nm, glad you're ok apart from the cold.
    • karcher
    • By karcher 12th Mar 18, 8:12 PM
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    I just had a grumble on The Money Savers Arms, which was the only thread I could find to try and discover if there is an official way to complain about an employee of Scottish Power phoning me at home and trying to persuade, then bully me into having a smart meter fitted. I told her that I was moving before the end of June, which I hope to be the case, then she said I could still have one fitted. When I told her I didn't want one, she replied that I have to have one, everyone is going to have to have one. I just said 'that's a lie, no one has to have one'.

    She was still trying to make me have one when I hung up on her. The sad thing is that there are still vulnerable people who think they have to obey the voice of authority. The majority of smart meters are still not transferable to other companies and some have reported boiler malfunctions after the installation of a smart meter as soon as everything is switched back on. Others have said the meter is unreadable by a customer as there are so many different screens. I thought we had official bodies who watched out for this kind of thing?
    Originally posted by Charis
    I would suggest you post a new thread on the MSE Energy board. I'm sure there is a Scottish Power rep on there. You may get some action if you do.

    I would suggest the same to NM who is having problems switching supplier.

    It's amazing what can be achieved by putting this type of 'stuff' out there.

    Good luck both. (NM I have a plethora of thoughts regarding your DS and housing issue, but I think it has all been said before xx)

    Monna, yes the legendary Dave Allen, who left us far too soon but a very funny, inspired and intelligent man who deserves to be remembered and recited for ever more. x
    • nursemaggie
    • By nursemaggie 12th Mar 18, 9:38 PM
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    karcher I have signed up with another company, I can't complain bout the objecting to go somewhere else until they do.

    I signed up to three different companies last year. iSupply objected to them all as if I was in debt to them by £800 not the other way round. I had to phone round the other companies to find out they had deleted my sign up because iSupply had objected. I assume they think they should not object to them not telling me. They can only refuse on the grounds of you owing them a lot of money.

    I had exactly the same problem with Moving from British Gas to isupply because BG kept telling them I had changed mind. Then iSupply sent me a nasty letter. I have saved it on there websites because they actually never leave their website, but they will not let me get at them so I can use them in evidence. I ended up paying way too much for the contract because they ask for more money and after negotiating it with one of their staff I agreed extra for long enough to cover what they had refused to take for the first six months,

    I have corresponded with them at least weekly for two years.

    I have used MSE to change my electricity ever since it started. I had to miss last year as they iSupply were not only deleting all applications from other peoples websites but the were demanding twice the money without a contract.

    I always do everything by the book but it does not prevent things from going wrong every time. I just seemed to have been jinxed ever since energy went private.

    I have not done anything wrong it is them. Once I knew iSupply owed my £800 there was no way I was changing to another suppliers until I got it back. Some people have suggested I go to Citizens Advice. When I went to them to find out what benefits I was entitled to on less than a full pension, no other benefits and a 15 year old child to feed. I was thrown out of their office and told I should go and get a job. I was already ill then. I did not have the cancer but two types of arthritis and 8 other chronic decreases.

    I did find out from the local council what I was entitled too.

    I am not having problems yet this year I just told you the problems from last year and a few years back. When they !!!! it up it is not usually anything the customer does. All I wanted to know was could I go straight to the ombudsman? I have been told I can.

    I have told iSupply if they turn down Ebico I will go straight to My MP, the Ombudsman and copies of my letters to all consumer programs I can find.

    I do wish we could do without Energy.
    • maryb
    • By maryb 12th Mar 18, 9:54 PM
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    Hello LameWolf Iíve just spent today arguing about this. Apparently to change from Economy 7 to regular meter as tenants we have to have a smart meter. I will fight back.
    Originally posted by FurryBeastOz
    Furry, I have an old Economy 7 meter but all they did when I wanted to change to a regular meter was charge both meters on the same tarriff. I just submit two readings. I change providers fairly regularly and it has never been a problem
    It doesn't matter if you are a glass half full or half empty sort of person. Keep it topped up! Cheers!
    • ginnyknit
    • By ginnyknit 13th Mar 18, 12:27 AM
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    Hello all, have been reading back a bit and just wanted to send hugs to all in need.

    Nm you are really having a tough time, hope you can kick your DS into shape soon and get a new home.

    Lynn are you moving nearer to family? I'm sure you will find the perfect home too.

    Monna my dear, you are an inspiration and make me giggle so often.

    Fuddle I do wish they could get to the bottom of your problems so you can live a better life after so much to contend with in the past.

    I'm sat here feeling very pleased that I can still join in. I had a very bad accident 2 weeks ago and fell crossing a main road. It was due to a ridge in the road caused by buses pulling up at the bus stop which could not be seen from my side of the road. I initially thought it was a speed bump but hubby went and checked and realised the truth. I banged my headon the kerb and am lucky to still be here. Unbelivably 10 people stood at the bus stop and watched me and offered no help. In fact one told me to get off the road as his bus was coming A kind lady picked me up and put me in a taxi to Dd's ( about 5 minutes away) and she rang for an ambulance which didn't come. So after the shock wore off she took me home and I got looked over later that day. I have since had another check and told I was very lucky, no fracture to my bonce and nothing else broken. Its taken me 2 weeks to recover and relax as I was scared something would go wrong. Oddly it seems to have cured my tinnitus!

    I think Monna may have a thought of the day to cover this. I am following doctors orders and being very good. Also I had just cursed myself for not popping in Tescos for my new glasses - lucky as they would now be a monacle like my old ones
    Running on optimism
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    • Softstuff
    • By Softstuff 13th Mar 18, 2:02 AM
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    Good grief, Ginnyknit. Glad you survived that ordeal... and got rid of the tinnitus. Every cloud and all that I suppose. Can't believe no-one would help though, yikes, I can't imagine anyone I know standing by and watching without helping
    Softstuff- Officially better than 007
    • MrsLurcherwalker
    • By MrsLurcherwalker 13th Mar 18, 8:28 AM
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    Oh lord Ginny, I hope you're OK now? how can people NOT help someone in that situation? I think people might be scared of being sued should anything go wrong because of their actions, that's what living in such a litigious society does for humanity isn't it?

    We are trying to move closer to the girls, we've been on the market a week and a half now and had 3 viewings, 2 of which have resulted in viewers own houses going on to the market and both of them here in the village. We've had an offer but a cheeky one which the EA has said not to take, it's too early in the process and we've found a lovely house to go to, made an offer and been accepted by the vendor but sensibly he has left the house there on the market as we haven't sold yet. If it's meant to be the move will happen and if it's not well there will always be another property in the future. I hope it IS this one as it's very nice and big enough specially the garden, you know how we love our gardening and veg growing and it's very conveniently placed for shops, busses, doggy walks in the country etc. and 10 minutes from Nell on the bus and 40 minutes on the train from Ruthie so close enough for us to be useful but not so close as to make them feel uncomfortable about parents in the area. I'll (inevitably!) let you know how it all goes or doesn't go, probably to the point of boring you all silly xxx.
    Thumpers mum was right - if you can't find anything nice to say don't say anything at all!
    • monnagran
    • By monnagran 13th Mar 18, 8:57 AM
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    Morning all,

    ginnyknit, I am appalled that you had such a nasty accident and people stood around and watched. I wish that I could say that I was surprised, but sadly not. Years ago I witnessed an old lady (probably younger than I am now but she seemed incredibly old to me) fall in the middle of Guildford High Street. She went down with a thud and her shopping bag flew out of her hand, scattering her shopping far and wide over the pavement. It was unbelievable! People were stepping over her. A few of us ran to her aid but the worst wasn't over. I heard a man shout and looked up in time to see a smartly dressed lady rooting through all the poor woman's possessions on the pavement and filling her own bag. That vision has lived with me for all these years.
    I'm glad that you have survived Ginny, and even more pleased that the accident cured your tinnitus. Perhaps you have made a great scientific discovery. Maybe in future, specially trained doctors will trip tinnitus sufferers up. Hospitals will spend millions on building incredibly hard stone walls for them to bang their heads against. You will be awarded the Nobel Peace .............

    You want a Thought to cover this? I'm sure there are better ones out there, but how about "Every bash on the head has a blissful silence?" or more poetically..........


    Not all storms come to disrupt your life, some come to clear your path.
    I believe that friends are quiet angels
    Who lift us to our feet when our wings
    Have trouble remembering how to fly.
    • silvasava
    • By silvasava 13th Mar 18, 9:16 AM
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    Ginny how absolutely awful - at least there was one good Samaritan. Do hope you are OK now so be gentle with yourself. Brilliant thought Monna as usual!
    Small victories - sometimes they are all you can hope for but sometimes they are all you need - be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle
    • ivyleaf
    • By ivyleaf 13th Mar 18, 9:34 AM
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    Oh ginnyknit, so glad you're feeling better but very sad that no one (except on lady)helped you Great news about the tinnitus though!
    • pollyanna 26
    • By pollyanna 26 13th Mar 18, 9:37 AM
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    Popping in to wish fuds a productive appointment today with the Consultant ( if I've haven't mixed up the day .
    Lavender vibes for you love .

    Lovely to see you Ginny but what an experience , Nothing surprises me nowadays but there are good people and a lot of self centred , entitled types . That one kind lady makes up for all the rest .
    Hope you feel better soon . At least you've lost the tinnitus hope it stays away .

    polly x
    • Elona
    • By Elona 13th Mar 18, 9:56 AM
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    That is one heck of a way to cure tinnitus pet!!!!

    Take care of yourself and I hope you feel much better soon.
    • nursemaggie
    • By nursemaggie 13th Mar 18, 10:21 AM
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    Oh Ginny so sorry for your accident but it was a happy one getting rid of the tinnitus.

    Hope we will see more of you.
    • fuddle
    • By fuddle 13th Mar 18, 12:46 PM
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    Ginny it's lovely to see you but I'm sorry to hear of your accident. I hope it hasn't effected your confidence though.

    I'm back from the cardiologist. Well remembered Polly I'm getting an MRI scan because he thinks way back with the first pneumonia, the one with the fluid backed up into my lungs, it's probable that it cause inflammation of the heart muscle. He suspects I have, or have had, mayocarditis. He suspects that last week was an exacerbation of that. He's gone through all my blood test results and found the white blood cells always elevated (I think) and also infection markers are always raised even though, over time, they have fallen. They were quite low last week but not low enough for a healthy person. The echo showed that my heart is only slightly struggling but it is struggling so he wants to do the MRI.

    I can't ask fairer than that can I? I'm trying not to Google because there's some serious stuff on there about it and I just don't think I need to read that. I have to go by what I've seen and spoken about with a person who has my details in front of them. So until the MRI I take it easy (that school run ladies, I have slogged so hard for the past year up that hill!) I still have the calcium channel blockers but he's upped the dose until the MRI and then we go from there.

    One thing I'm taking from it is if I fall ill again I now mention pneumonia and mayocarditis. I shouldn't be falling through any nets. Given the situation I now feel pretty strong. 'only slightly struggling' that's me

    My main aim (we know I like control ) is to continue with my low inflammatory diet to the point of obsession!
    Please don't judge my story by the chapter that you walked in on.
    • pollyanna 26
    • By pollyanna 26 13th Mar 18, 1:24 PM
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    It sounds as though you are now in experienced safe hands fuds . I'm happy to see that .

    I have an A5 size reinforced clear zip top holder which lives permanently in my bag . It holds the latest printout of all dds meds . Her blood monitoring book and a printout of all diagnoses . Other useful history is in there along with her PPC .

    It would help if you typed out and copied your recent history and added to a similar system that is always with you . Your gp should receive feedback from the consultant so ask for a copy of that .

    Meanwhile I'm aware you are trying to deal with the anxiety issues . It's natural after all the ups and downs of your life that anxiety lurks in the background .
    Dd can move an imminent appt from a letter to catastrophe mode in minutes . She's learning well now that that is neither useful or healthy . It's something that happens when bad things have happened in the past - automatic fight or flight - but this is now and not back then . Get thee to the lottie once things are sorted and enjoy the seasons ahead .

    polly x
    • monnagran
    • By monnagran 13th Mar 18, 2:29 PM
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    Fuddle, my dear little control freak, it seems as though you can relax a bit now. The medics have finally got their act together and seem to be getting you bang to rights.It seems that, and I say this with bated breath and fingers crossed, you can let them get on with the job of sorting out your medical problems, leaving you to sort out your healthy eating, relaxation, anxiety reducing matters as you feel best.

    Here's to a brighter, more enjoyable future. You've worked hard for this. x
    I believe that friends are quiet angels
    Who lift us to our feet when our wings
    Have trouble remembering how to fly.
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