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    • hammy1988
    • By hammy1988 16th Jul 17, 1:49 PM
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    Using loft in a new build house. Builders opinion please
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    Using loft in a new build house. Builders opinion please 16th Jul 17 at 1:49 PM
    We have been told in our New Build that we have just bought that we cannot use our loft for storage as its something to do with the way it is built. Could a builder who hopefully has knowledge on this elaborate for me please? We have a few bits and Bob's such as Xmas Decs and a couple of storage boxes that we were hoping to store up there

    Could we put a board over the insulation and store a few things? Would this be safe? We have been warned that if we get a ceiling/loft issue that it will void the warranty if we use the loft. It just seems silly that you cannot use a loft at all.

    A builders opinion on this would be greatly appreciated?
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    • I have spoken
    • By I have spoken 16th Jul 17, 3:02 PM
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    I expect it's because there 30+ cm of insulation, you need loft storage stilts so you don't compress the insulation and stop air movement

    Last edited by I have spoken; 16-07-2017 at 3:05 PM.
    • Gloomendoom
    • By Gloomendoom 16th Jul 17, 4:11 PM
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    Could we put a board over the insulation and store a few things?
    Originally posted by hammy1988
    A pic of said loft would help.
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    • Ash Mc
    • By Ash Mc 16th Jul 17, 11:26 PM
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    We have been told in our New Build that we have just bought that we cannot use our loft for storage as its something to do with the way it is built. Could a builder who hopefully has knowledge on this elaborate for me please?
    Originally posted by hammy1988
    Can't you ask whoever you spoke to to elaborate?
    • EachPenny
    • By EachPenny 17th Jul 17, 11:37 PM
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    ...It just seems silly that you cannot use a loft at all...
    Originally posted by hammy1988
    The problem might be the insulation, but it could also be concerns over loading. New build construction pares to the bone everything which can be pared without affecting the pictures in the glossy brochure. Money can be saved by designing the roof trusses to take the roof load and nothing else.

    Assuming your new build has roof trusses it might be the case that the bottom chord has been specified only to carry the load of the supported ceiling, and the internal loads of the truss. It takes very little additional load on the bottom chord for it to start sagging, which in turn allows the roof to sag.

    We have a few bits and Bob's such as Xmas Decs and a couple of storage boxes that we were hoping to store up there
    Originally posted by hammy1988
    This is the problem.... a few bits and bobs becomes quite a lot of bits and bobs, and not just lightweight xmas decorations, but also boxes of papers, vinyl records, toys, redundant electrical equipment etc. The total weight of what some people store in their loft is frightening. Old 'built to last' houses will take this kind of loading in their stride, new builds do not have the spare load capacity and will start moving leading to cracking of ceilings and other undesirable features.

    The only opinions which count are those backing the warranty - if they say you cannot use the loft and take advantage of the warranty then it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.
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    • Furts
    • By Furts 18th Jul 17, 6:52 AM
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    If there are water tanks, heat recovery units, or anything else, located in the roofspace then there should be boarding and access walkways. If the roof is simply an empty void then you have to decide what you do.

    There is a warranty, but this will not give a detailed list of do and do not. Here common sense has to take over, coupled by what is reasonable, and what a reasonable person would do.

    In general roof trusses will form the roof structure and builders do not want home owners going up into the roof. The simple reason being it is a roof space and it is not designed to be a storage space.
    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 18th Jul 17, 6:59 AM
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    • 18th Jul 17, 6:59 AM
    Another major change in the last 20 or so years is the move to combi or mains pressure tank hot water systems that don't need a big(200+ltr) tank of water in the loft.

    Use of the same trusses for the rest of the roof gave spare load capaity in the areas without the tank
    • hammy1988
    • By hammy1988 18th Jul 17, 9:00 AM
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    • 18th Jul 17, 9:00 AM
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    • 18th Jul 17, 9:00 AM
    Some of these replies are just the elaboration/explanations we were looking for! Thanks everyone. We have decided to not use the loft
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