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    • Annie35
    • By Annie35 15th Jul 17, 1:42 PM
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    electric bikes & mopeds ( epac )
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    • 15th Jul 17, 1:42 PM
    electric bikes & mopeds ( epac ) 15th Jul 17 at 1:42 PM
    hello, im considering getting an electric moped to buzz around on. Has anyone else got one or seen one? They're classed as a bike but look like a moped (so not going to saw your butt up! ) you dont need a licence or anything to have one.

    This is one,, https://eriderbikes.com/e-rider-new-model-15/
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    • Stoke
    • By Stoke 17th Jul 17, 12:24 PM
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    Its not about rage its about the fact they will expect you to move along much quicker than you can. So dont be shocked when they run over you.

    And expect to be pulled over a lot due to no numberplates.
    Originally posted by forgotmyname
    I love the kind of ridiculousness in that statement.

    Cars run you over because they expect you to move at the same speed.....

    OR, cars don't run you over, because they're aware that you're a human on a bicycle and therefore hitting you isn't fair, nor legal.
    • Herzlos
    • By Herzlos 17th Jul 17, 12:29 PM
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    See what your saying about road rage but scooters go 30 OR 60 & ragers gonna rage regardless.
    Originally posted by Annie35
    That's the problem; people will treat this like a scooter and be unusually annoyed because it's got half the top speed you'd expect. This thing can't keep up with any traffic, anywhere.

    If you want something powered that looks like a moped, just get a moped.
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 17th Jul 17, 3:33 PM
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    I love the kind of ridiculousness in that statement.

    Cars run you over because they expect you to move at the same speed.....

    OR, cars don't run you over, because they're aware that you're a human on a bicycle and therefore hitting you isn't fair, nor legal.
    Originally posted by Stoke
    It doesnt look like a bicycle though, thats the issue. Also due to the lack of noise there will be those that are not even aware you are there.
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    • Stoke
    • By Stoke 17th Jul 17, 3:38 PM
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    It doesnt look like a bicycle though, thats the issue. Also due to the lack of noise there will be those that are not even aware you are there.
    Originally posted by forgotmyname
    Nonsense.

    http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/~94AAOSwIWVY-RiC/s-l1600.jpg

    That's an ebike. It's currently for sale on eBay. On what planet does that looks like a motorbike?
    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 17th Jul 17, 3:41 PM
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    I'd take my chances on a proper moped - but with 3 wheels for stability (actually because I struggle to reach the ground on any moped, so why not have the luxury of never having to look for a kerb to stop alongside).

    I've owned about 3 mopeds, one 125-cc motorcycle and several basic bikes.... I cycle at about 6mph
    • Andy L
    • By Andy L 17th Jul 17, 4:04 PM
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    Nonsense.

    http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/~94AAOSwIWVY-RiC/s-l1600.jpg

    That's an ebike. It's currently for sale on eBay. On what planet does that looks like a motorbike?
    Originally posted by Stoke
    Thats not what the Op's looking at though. They mean one of these:

    • Stoke
    • By Stoke 17th Jul 17, 4:05 PM
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    Thats not what the Op's looking at though. They mean one of these:

    Originally posted by Andy L
    Well that's just plain daft.
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 17th Jul 17, 7:25 PM
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    Well that's just plain daft.
    Originally posted by Stoke
    Exactly and that has been my point all along it looks like a scooter/moped and car drivers may expect it to perform like one and could get closer than they expected rather quickly.

    They weigh a lot. It says 38 to 40 kg. I wouldnt be surprised if it actually weighed more with a decent battery pack.

    The seat height to pedals is fairly short, and so is the ground clearance between the pedal and road surface.

    If you put the left pedal down and turn left your going to have an exciting ride.
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    • Strider590
    • By Strider590 17th Jul 17, 10:08 PM
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    The fact the UK have almost banned them, makes me a bit cynical. Are they banned because they're dangerous? Or are they banned because they're essentially an untaxed method of transport and perhaps might have caught on? A 25Mph e-Bike would probably get me to work as fast as when I used my car, although not as fast as the train.
    Originally posted by Stoke
    Nail / Head.

    Same reason they bought up a 200 year old law to ban the "hoverboards", then they used safety issues to scare people into not buying them.

    In truth only a handful out of millions produced ever caught fire and NONE of them were in the UK. There are more cars on sale in the UK which catch fire than there are "hoverboards".

    So yes, it's basically about VAT (on the vehicle and on the fuel), the govt doesn't give a damn about reducing pollution or saving the planet or giving those on the lowest incomes a means by which to travel for work, all they care about is money..........




    I love the kind of ridiculousness in that statement.

    Cars run you over because they expect you to move at the same speed.....

    OR, cars don't run you over, because they're aware that you're a human on a bicycle and therefore hitting you isn't fair, nor legal.
    Originally posted by Stoke
    When you get on a bicycle, in the eyes of the vast majority, you are no longer human, you are a law breaking non-conformist and you can be killed without consequence.
    Last edited by Strider590; 17-07-2017 at 10:13 PM.
    Having the last word isn't the same as being right.......

    "Never confuse education with intelligence"
    • Honey Badger
    • By Honey Badger 18th Jul 17, 7:46 AM
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    In truth only a handful out of millions produced ever caught fire and NONE of them were in the UK.
    Originally posted by Strider590
    Perhaps you should contact Sky News and the London Fire Brigade and tell them their wrong?

    http://news.sky.com/story/why-are-death-trap-hoverboards-exploding-10335848
    • Strider590
    • By Strider590 18th Jul 17, 8:30 AM
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    Perhaps you should contact Sky News and the London Fire Brigade and tell them their wrong?

    http://news.sky.com/story/why-are-death-trap-hoverboards-exploding-10335848
    Originally posted by Honey Badger
    The cut-off switch which should activate when the lithium battery is fully charged often doesn't work.
    How can I take that seriously when they clearly don't know what the **** they're talking about?

    There is no "cut off switch", there's a charge controller circuit, just like that in a phone, tablet, laptop, vape or anything else that uses lithium batteries and just like anything else that uses lithium batteries, the manufacturer may tell you not to leave the device on charge for extended periods.
    What probably happened was some sort of impact damage to the battery pack causing a short circuit or overheating due to where it was being charged. Basically human stupidity.

    And what do I think of those stories? Details are fuzzy, to be honest it looks like propaganda.
    They mention un-fused plugs, well that applies to a lot of devices we own and yet if it doesn't provide untaxable transport they don't give a damn.

    I used to work for company that was contacted by a major name retailer regarding making their huge stock of these "safe", but it didn't happen and the retailer got a slap on the wrist for even contemplating it.
    Last edited by Strider590; 18-07-2017 at 8:37 AM.
    Having the last word isn't the same as being right.......

    "Never confuse education with intelligence"
    • neilmcl
    • By neilmcl 18th Jul 17, 9:15 AM
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    In truth only a handful out of millions produced ever caught fire and NONE of them were in the UK. There are more cars on sale in the UK which catch fire than there are "hoverboards".
    Originally posted by Strider590
    I live in hope that one day you'll actually post something based on FACT not nonsense based on some conspiracy theory of yours or just things you simply make up. There is plenty of reported evidence of these "hoverboards", usually Chinese knock offs, going up in smoke right here in the UK.
    • neilmcl
    • By neilmcl 18th Jul 17, 9:17 AM
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    How can I take that seriously when they clearly don't know what the **** they're talking about?

    There is no "cut off switch", there's a charge controller circuit, just like that in a phone, tablet, laptop, vape or anything else that uses lithium batteries and just like anything else that uses lithium batteries, the manufacturer may tell you not to leave the device on charge for extended periods.
    What probably happened was some sort of impact damage to the battery pack causing a short circuit or overheating due to where it was being charged. Basically human stupidity.

    And what do I think of those stories? Details are fuzzy, to be honest it looks like propaganda.
    They mention un-fused plugs, well that applies to a lot of devices we own and yet if it doesn't provide untaxable transport they don't give a damn.

    I used to work for company that was contacted by a major name retailer regarding making their huge stock of these "safe", but it didn't happen and the retailer got a slap on the wrist for even contemplating it.
    Originally posted by Strider590
    Another bunch of nonsense, keep it up.
    • LeeUK
    • By LeeUK 18th Jul 17, 9:29 AM
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    I'd rather go for a nice used 125cc scooter, plenty of power for city roads and still cheap enough to run. Also go for a known make not one of those cheap unknown Chinese makes.
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