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    • LadyMorticia
    • By LadyMorticia 14th Jul 17, 8:49 PM
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    "Your Windows License Will Expire Soon"
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    • 14th Jul 17, 8:49 PM
    "Your Windows License Will Expire Soon" 14th Jul 17 at 8:49 PM
    Hey everyone.

    I have a Lenovo Ideapad 510P. It shipped with Windows 8. It's about 4 years old.

    Earlier this year, the harddrive decided to give up the ghost and I paid the local computer guy to install a new one for me (it ended up being a lower capacity harddrive, but annoyed me but c'est la vie.)

    When he installed the new HDD he put Windows 10 on it.

    Everything was working fine, but now I keep getting a pop up which says "Your Windows licence will expire soon. Please activate in settings" or something to that effect.

    I went into settings and it says it's Windows 10 Home but it also says "windows is activated using your organization's activation service." I'm not entirely sure what this means.

    Does this mean that the copy of Windows 10 I have isn't legit? Or, if it is, how do I get rid of this annoying message which is now popping up every 5 minutes and is becoming very obtrusive.

    If it isn't a legit copy, where is the best place to buy a legit copy from?

    Thank you.
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    • unforeseen
    • By unforeseen 14th Jul 17, 9:11 PM
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    • #2
    • 14th Jul 17, 9:11 PM
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    • 14th Jul 17, 9:11 PM
    It isn't legit in your situation because it is expecting to validate the key against a company KMS system.

    To get a valid copy of Win 10 go to https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/accessibility/windows10upgrade

    Forgot to say that you might need to wipe the copy of Win 10 that you have and install win 8.1 first. The serial for this should be built in. Win 8.1 can be downloaded from https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows8ISO
    Last edited by unforeseen; 14-07-2017 at 9:25 PM.
    • LadyMorticia
    • By LadyMorticia 14th Jul 17, 9:27 PM
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    • #3
    • 14th Jul 17, 9:27 PM
    • #3
    • 14th Jul 17, 9:27 PM
    It isn't legit in your situation because it is expecting to validate the key against a company KMS system.

    To get a valid copy of Win 10 go to https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/accessibility/windows10upgrade

    Forgot to say that you might need to wipe the copy of Win 10 that you have and install win 8.1 first. The serial for this should be built in. Win 8.1 can be downloaded from https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows8ISO
    Originally posted by unforeseen
    Thank you very much.
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    • Jivesinger
    • By Jivesinger 14th Jul 17, 9:48 PM
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    • #4
    • 14th Jul 17, 9:48 PM
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    • 14th Jul 17, 9:48 PM
    Windows 8 has an automatic free upgrade to Windows 10 anyway, and last I heard it still worked without requiring the accessibility workaround.

    I think it's just a case of getting the correct edition of Windows 10 (which matches the edition of Windows 8 originally installed), and then the Windows 10 installer will probably read the key off the motherboard when it's installed.

    As suggested it's probably a good idea to wipe the suspect copy of Windows 10 though - take a backup first!
    • unforeseen
    • By unforeseen 14th Jul 17, 10:03 PM
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    • #5
    • 14th Jul 17, 10:03 PM
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    • 14th Jul 17, 10:03 PM
    Free upgrade routes have now finished apart from the accessibility route.

    You will need to install Win 8 and allow it to activate before you can successfully install via the accessibility route.

    The win 8 key built in will not be recognised as valid for win 10.
    • LadyMorticia
    • By LadyMorticia 14th Jul 17, 10:05 PM
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    • #6
    • 14th Jul 17, 10:05 PM
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    • 14th Jul 17, 10:05 PM
    Free upgrade routes have now finished apart from the accessibility route.

    You will need to install Win 8 and allow it to activate before you can successfully install via the accessibility route.

    The win 8 key built in will not be recognised as valid for win 10.
    Originally posted by unforeseen
    Will the Windows 8 key still be recognised if I have had a new harddrive? Sorry, I'm usually good with computers but alas, not this time!
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    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 14th Jul 17, 10:13 PM
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    • #7
    • 14th Jul 17, 10:13 PM
    • #7
    • 14th Jul 17, 10:13 PM
    Free upgrade routes have now finished apart from the accessibility route.
    .
    Originally posted by unforeseen
    No they haven't. I've installed Windows 10 Pro on half a dozen machines with bare hard drives this week using the Windows 7 Pro product key attached to the machine.

    No need to install Win7 first and use the accessibility route, I just entered the Win7 Pro product key on installation and it automatically activated when it got online.
    • henm2
    • By henm2 14th Jul 17, 11:59 PM
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    I would not faff about with Windows. Install instead Linux Mint 18.2 cinnamon edition. A much better operating system.
    • Tarambor
    • By Tarambor 15th Jul 17, 12:28 AM
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    • 15th Jul 17, 12:28 AM
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    • 15th Jul 17, 12:28 AM
    I would not faff about with Windows. Install instead Linux Mint 18.2 cinnamon edition. A much better operating system.
    Originally posted by henm2
    There are as many ways it is worse as there are it is better. Use two network connections in a PC running Mint, assign one of them the correct IP address of your router as the gateway, assign the other one a gateway address with no internet access. See if you can access the internet. Works OK in Windows, doesn't in Linux. You need to remove the gateway entry that has no internet access in one of the network cards which the Network Manager won't let you do without a fight.
    Last edited by Tarambor; 15-07-2017 at 12:34 AM.
    • WAYT
    • By WAYT 15th Jul 17, 2:02 AM
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    Win10_1703_English International_x64.iso
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 15th Jul 17, 2:35 AM
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    Free upgrade routes have now finished apart from the accessibility route.

    You will need to install Win 8 and allow it to activate before you can successfully install via the accessibility route.

    The win 8 key built in will not be recognised as valid for win 10.
    Originally posted by unforeseen
    Wrong. I installed windows 10 a month or so back without having to install windows 7.

    I used an old Windows 7 serial to download windows 10 onto a new Ryzen PC. It downloaded, installed and activated with no issues.
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    • datostar
    • By datostar 15th Jul 17, 8:44 AM
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    I had a legitimate copy of Windows 7 running on an iMac under VMWare Fusion and did the free upgrade to Windows 10. Being crafty, so I thought, I'd copied the Win 7 container file before the upgrade and put it back afterwards. This gave me both 7 and 10, working properly. This lasted for about 9 months but then Win 7 reported that it was not validated. Entering the original code didn't work. As I'd got used to Win 10 by then and actually prefer it now, no real problem. I can only think that Microsoft's 'phone home' system eventually discovered that 2 of their OS's were running on the same machine under the same registration and acted accordingly. I've removed Win 7. Conclusion, if there's anything dodgy about an installation and it's got an internet connection, they'll catch up with you eventually.
    • grumpycrab
    • By grumpycrab 15th Jul 17, 9:02 AM
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    Being crafty, so I thought, I'd copied the Win 7 container file before the upgrade and put it back afterwards. This gave me both 7 and 10, working properly.
    Originally posted by datostar
    Don't know what the Win7 container file is but I've got a Win 7/10 dual boot - with 10 created from 7. The update process didn't/shouldn't have consumed the win 7 license. Both of mine are running fine.
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    • Zandoni
    • By Zandoni 15th Jul 17, 9:30 AM
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    I'd go back to shop where they fitted the new hard drive, especially if they charged you for Win10.
    • datostar
    • By datostar 15th Jul 17, 10:04 AM
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    Don't know what the Win7 container file is but I've got a Win 7/10 dual boot - with 10 created from 7. The update process didn't/shouldn't have consumed the win 7 license. Both of mine are running fine.
    Originally posted by grumpycrab
    A Virtual Machine like VMWare stores the entire OS in a single file (container) on the host machine which is constantly being updated and accessed in use, and can be copied, backed-up etc. as a single entity. I thought I was OK with both, too, but... I only use Windows as and when nowadays for 2 programs for which there is no MacOS equivalent as good so I can live with the loss of 7.
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 15th Jul 17, 11:03 AM
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    Yeah i have a VMware with WIN 7 that now says its not legit.
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    • fenlander_uk
    • By fenlander_uk 15th Jul 17, 11:30 AM
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    There are as many ways it is worse as there are it is better. Use two network connections in a PC running Mint, assign one of them the correct IP address of your router as the gateway, assign the other one a gateway address with no internet access. See if you can access the internet. Works OK in Windows, doesn't in Linux. You need to remove the gateway entry that has no internet access in one of the network cards which the Network Manager won't let you do without a fight.
    Originally posted by Tarambor
    Good grief! That should make anyone considering Linux think twice!
    [/irony]
    • Undervalued
    • By Undervalued 15th Jul 17, 11:44 AM
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    I would not faff about with Windows. Install instead Linux Mint 18.2 cinnamon edition. A much better operating system.
    Originally posted by henm2
    Oh for heaven's sake!

    Yes, in certain respects it may be "better" but the vast majority of people need to use the popular commercial software packages like MS office or Photoshop which aren't available on Linux.

    And please don't say Open Office and Gimp! Fine if you don't have to integrate with the rest of the real world but not otherwise as the "compatibility" for anything beyond the basics is hopeless.
    • angryparcel
    • By angryparcel 15th Jul 17, 12:13 PM
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    I would not faff about with Windows. Install instead Linux Mint 18.2 cinnamon edition. A much better operating system.
    Originally posted by henm2
    BS
    Linux is no good for the general consumer, this is for specific application processes.
    • emptybox
    • By emptybox 15th Jul 17, 1:36 PM
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    Oh for heaven's sake!

    Yes, in certain respects it may be "better" but the vast majority of people need to use the popular commercial software packages like MS office or Photoshop which aren't available on Linux.

    And please don't say Open Office and Gimp! Fine if you don't have to integrate with the rest of the real world but not otherwise as the "compatibility" for anything beyond the basics is hopeless.
    Originally posted by Undervalued
    Do they? I'd have thought the vast majority of Windows domestic users don't ever buy commercial software apart from games and possibly anti-virus programs.

    There's Linux software available to do everything that the average user needs to do.
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