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    • aardvaak
    • By aardvaak 14th Jul 17, 6:46 PM
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    Mozilla Firefox
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    • 14th Jul 17, 6:46 PM
    Mozilla Firefox 14th Jul 17 at 6:46 PM
    Why is Firefox so useless?

    It is nowadays constantly displaying "firefox not responding"

    What better progarm are there?
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    • angryparcel
    • By angryparcel 14th Jul 17, 7:19 PM
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    Why is Firefox so useless?

    It is nowadays constantly displaying "firefox not responding"

    What better progarm are there?
    Originally posted by aardvaak
    Gave up on FF some time ago, now i use Google Chrome
    • Teapot55
    • By Teapot55 14th Jul 17, 7:31 PM
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    • 14th Jul 17, 7:31 PM
    I'm surprised at the above because I changed to Firefox a while ago, as I find it so user friendly. It doesn't often crash for me, but I couldn't tell you what I am doing or not doing.

    The main reasons I find Firefox so good are these:
    • You can press F11 and get full screen, which you don't seem to be able to do with the new microsoft edge
    • you can do long press on the 'back' arrow (top-left) and get a drop-down menu of the last dozen or so pages - great for navigating back to the home page on MSE for instance
    • Neil Jones
    • By Neil Jones 14th Jul 17, 7:52 PM
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    • 14th Jul 17, 7:52 PM
    Pressing Shift, the Windows key and Enter in Edge will take it full screen.

    You can achieve the Firefox effect in Edge by right-clicking on the back button.
    • aardvaak
    • By aardvaak 14th Jul 17, 8:15 PM
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    • 14th Jul 17, 8:15 PM
    Gave up on FF some time ago, now i use Google Chrome
    Originally posted by angryparcel
    I just tried Chrome - it is even more useless
    • A. Badger
    • By A. Badger 14th Jul 17, 8:19 PM
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    • 14th Jul 17, 8:19 PM
    I don't suffer any lack of responsiveness from either (under W10). Firefox has suffered from bloat, as so many programmes do, but the fact that you can't make either Chrome or Firefox run properly suggests something else is wrong. Do any browsers work properly for you?
    • ThemeOne
    • By ThemeOne 14th Jul 17, 8:43 PM
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    • 14th Jul 17, 8:43 PM
    You could try SeaMonkey - built on the same engine as Firefox but takes a more traditional approach re interface and features.
    • aardvaak
    • By aardvaak 14th Jul 17, 9:05 PM
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    • 14th Jul 17, 9:05 PM
    I don't suffer any lack of responsiveness from either (under W10). Firefox has suffered from bloat, as so many programmes do, but the fact that you can't make either Chrome or Firefox run properly suggests something else is wrong. Do any browsers work properly for you?
    Originally posted by A. Badger

    Supprisingly
    Edge is slightly better.

    What else could be wrong then?
    • aardvaak
    • By aardvaak 14th Jul 17, 9:18 PM
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    • 14th Jul 17, 9:18 PM
    You could try SeaMonkey - built on the same engine as Firefox but takes a more traditional approach re interface and features.
    Originally posted by ThemeOne
    Why is is it saying "this site is untrustworthy"?
    • RumRat
    • By RumRat 14th Jul 17, 9:42 PM
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    Invariably, when FF has problems, it's with an add-on or a plug in.
    Personally, I haven't had any problems with FF in a long time.
    OP, see if the problem persists in 'Safe mode' or just disable all your add-ons and reintroduce them one at a time until you replicate the problem.
    On your last point, I don't believe that there is a better program. However, that is just a personal opinion.
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    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 15th Jul 17, 3:02 AM
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    Recently finding Firefox to be my weakpoint.

    Having a FF window open with a flash based game, probably pretty memory hungry. Leave that running and then had a pile of of other FF windows open and then launch Youtube in FF. I find that the youtube video starts to flash. Reload the youtube page and it stops flashing but sometimes it restarts the video and not resume.

    Thingiverse also kills firefox. On my old system it would kill it very quickly. Now i can get 20 or so pages through the site then firefox starts to hang.

    I switched to Ublock a while back. Much better.

    Not the PCs fault this time, Win 10, R1700, 16GB etc.
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    • ThemeOne
    • By ThemeOne 15th Jul 17, 7:19 AM
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    Why is is it saying "this site is untrustworthy"?
    Originally posted by aardvaak
    Do you mean this site? https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

    It's fine for me.
    • Frozen_up_north
    • By Frozen_up_north 15th Jul 17, 9:03 AM
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    Why is Firefox so useless?

    It is nowadays constantly displaying "firefox not responding"

    What better progarm are there?
    Originally posted by aardvaak
    There is nothing wrong with F/Fox, feel free to use Chrome or Edge, but the problem doesn't lie with Mozilla. It works fine on a desktop and 2 x laptops here, all running Win 10/64 with 4GB ram.
    • angryparcel
    • By angryparcel 15th Jul 17, 10:07 AM
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    I just tried Chrome - it is even more useless
    Originally posted by aardvaak
    Been using chrome several years now and never had any issues that cause major problems.
    yes you cannot plate unite games using chrome now, but that is no loss.

    You will find every browser will have little issues, you just need to find one you are comfortable with.
    • aardvaak
    • By aardvaak 15th Jul 17, 12:09 PM
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    Do you mean this site? https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

    It's fine for me.
    Originally posted by ThemeOne
    Used that still says "This Connection is Untrusted"

    Now dumped
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 15th Jul 17, 1:16 PM
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    Time and date wrong on the PC? That will give security errors.

    Just tried the above link in Firefox and Chrome and both work fine.
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    • angryparcel
    • By angryparcel 15th Jul 17, 1:32 PM
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    a huge percentage of sites do not have SSL because it is a nice little scam to charge site owners.
    Originally posted by DavidP24
    you are way behind the times, if a server uses cPanel all sites on the server now get a free SSL installed automatically though autoSSL.
    SSL is not a scam it is a service provided by webhosts, just like domains, SSL certs encrypt personal details and payment details, without an SSL your details would be seen by anyone with access to webservers and payment processors.
    • aardvaak
    • By aardvaak 15th Jul 17, 3:06 PM
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    I thought it was just that it means no SSL on site, a huge percentage of sites do not have SSL because it is a nice little scam to charge site owners.

    I just wen to link and it was fine



    Download is just from Mozilla sub domain

    http://download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.46/win32/en-US/SeaMonkey%20Setup%202.46.exe
    Originally posted by DavidP24
    Even here it still says untrustworthy
    • Robisere
    • By Robisere 15th Jul 17, 5:49 PM
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    We have Firefox on: my desktop, wife's laptop, both phones and my tablet. Phones are both Wileyfox, but the other devices are different manufaturers. On all 5 devices, Firefox works perfectly. Desktop is Firefox - synced to my phone and tablet. Wife's laptop is synced to her phone. I have used Firefox for many years.
    Last edited by Robisere; 15-07-2017 at 5:55 PM.
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    • brianposter
    • By brianposter 16th Jul 17, 7:15 PM
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    Why is Firefox so useless?

    It is nowadays constantly displaying "firefox not responding"

    What better progarm are there?
    Originally posted by aardvaak
    Are you really expecting Windows to say "I"ve cocked things up".

    I recently removed Firefox because it seemed to be hanging up repeatedly, but using IE instead did not remove the problem. It has become pretty clear that my problem is Windows 7.
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