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    • AG47
    • By AG47 14th Jul 17, 11:17 AM
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    Parkinticket, someone has our numberplate
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    • 14th Jul 17, 11:17 AM
    Parkinticket, someone has our numberplate 14th Jul 17 at 11:17 AM
    Just had a parking ticket, somewhere I have never been.

    I looked at the picture and it is the same car as ours similar colour, and the exact same number plate.

    The picture can see clearly it is not our car, clear different, but it has our registration

    Please tell me what should I do, call the police? Which number?
    Nothing has been fixed since 2008, it was just pushed into the future
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    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 14th Jul 17, 11:32 AM
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    • 14th Jul 17, 11:32 AM
    Council ticket or private parking company ticket? Who issued the ticket?

    If private then it's quite probably an ANPR camera misread. Does the VRM printed on the ticket match the VRM on the photo?

    If private, take this to the Parking Tickets sub-forum.
    If Council, take this to Pepipoo forum. (Don't try to register with a Hotmail address).
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    • AG47
    • By AG47 14th Jul 17, 11:49 AM
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    • 14th Jul 17, 11:49 AM
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    • 14th Jul 17, 11:49 AM
    Council ticket or private parking company ticket? Who issued the ticket?

    If private then it's quite probably an ANPR camera misread. Does the VRM printed on the ticket match the VRM on the photo?

    If private, take this to the Parking Tickets sub-forum.
    If Council, take this to Pepipoo forum. (Don't try to register with a Hotmail address).
    Originally posted by DoaM
    It's council, and yes somebody has made an exact copy of my number plate.
    Nothing has been fixed since 2008, it was just pushed into the future
    • Car 54
    • By Car 54 14th Jul 17, 11:55 AM
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    • 14th Jul 17, 11:55 AM
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    • 14th Jul 17, 11:55 AM
    Follow DoaM's advice about the ticket.

    Report the suspected cloning to the police on 101. Consider asking DVLA for a new number.
    • wgl2014
    • By wgl2014 14th Jul 17, 11:58 AM
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    • 14th Jul 17, 11:58 AM
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    • 14th Jul 17, 11:58 AM
    If the photo shows a car that ain't yours displaying your VRM then report to Police on 101 and DVLA.

    Police may want to see your car to verify its identity by chassis number etc.

    Worth doing in case any more fines come through.
    • kmb500
    • By kmb500 14th Jul 17, 2:42 PM
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    • 14th Jul 17, 2:42 PM
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    • 14th Jul 17, 2:42 PM
    call police on 101.
    • cajef
    • By cajef 14th Jul 17, 3:00 PM
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    • 14th Jul 17, 3:00 PM
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    • 14th Jul 17, 3:00 PM
    Sounds like it has been cloned, we had the same problem a few years ago, we kept getting parking fines from councils in the London area when we had never been there and could prove where our vehicle was over 200 miles away on the dates concerned.

    Frankly the law were we not interested they commented that looking for a cloned car in London was like looking for a needle in a haystack.

    We wrote and appealed to the councils concerned and they agreed to cancel the tickets when we explained why it could not be us, after further enquiries we found out that the vehicle concerned was not even the same make as ours, when we contacted the DVLA they agreed to issue our car with a new registration number.
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    • AG47
    • By AG47 14th Jul 17, 7:14 PM
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    • 14th Jul 17, 7:14 PM
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    • 14th Jul 17, 7:14 PM
    Thanks all, I have photos of the clone from the parking tickets, it's the same car but I can see little differences.

    Our number plate has the GB blue stripe and the clone does not.

    Have reported to police, but how do I report it to dvla?
    Nothing has been fixed since 2008, it was just pushed into the future
    • AG47
    • By AG47 15th Jul 17, 9:33 AM
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    • 15th Jul 17, 9:33 AM
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    • 15th Jul 17, 9:33 AM
    I'm making a file with my car and the clone pictures side by side, it's amazing they are almost identical but there is a small blue UK stripe on the number plates of one and not on the other
    Nothing has been fixed since 2008, it was just pushed into the future
    • vikingaero
    • By vikingaero 15th Jul 17, 9:40 AM
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    Dealers can make mistake with numberplates. Your car might have a numberplate ending in ABC, and the dealer may have put the same plates on the other car which should have had a plate ending in ABD.
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    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 15th Jul 17, 9:40 AM
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    Follow DoaM's advice about the ticket.

    Report the suspected cloning to the police on 101. Consider asking DVLA for a new number.
    Originally posted by Car 54
    I hope the ops isn't the clone.
    • cjdavies
    • By cjdavies 15th Jul 17, 10:18 AM
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    but how do I report it to dvla?
    Originally posted by AG47
    https://www.gov.uk/contact-the-dvla/y
    • cajef
    • By cajef 15th Jul 17, 10:47 AM
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    I hope the ops isn't the clone.
    Originally posted by AndyMc.....
    If the OP's was the clone they would not be getting the tickets.
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    • AndyMc.....
    • By AndyMc..... 15th Jul 17, 11:36 AM
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    If the OP's was the clone they would not be getting the tickets.
    Originally posted by cajef
    If the dvla have them down as the registered keeper they would.
    • parking_question_chap
    • By parking_question_chap 15th Jul 17, 11:43 AM
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    The subtle differences between the vehicles should be enough to get you off the ticket, though it might be that you have to appeal to the traffic penalty tribunal should the council not agree with your argument.

    In your letter of claim to the council I would clearly sat out that you will be taking the appeal to the tribunal if they refuse your appeal, going to further appeal will mean a lot more work for them.
    • parking_question_chap
    • By parking_question_chap 15th Jul 17, 11:44 AM
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    Dealers can make mistake with numberplates. Your car might have a numberplate ending in ABC, and the dealer may have put the same plates on the other car which should have had a plate ending in ABD.
    Originally posted by vikingaero
    Rather a coincidence that its the same make, model and colour, dont you think?
    • vikingaero
    • By vikingaero 15th Jul 17, 11:56 AM
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    Rather a coincidence that its the same make, model and colour, dont you think?
    Originally posted by parking_question_chap
    Why? The DVLA allocate batches of numbers to dealers at busy times (March/Sept changeovers). If you are a Ford dealer you could easily register 5 white Fiestas with consecutive plates.
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    • Muscle750
    • By Muscle750 15th Jul 17, 1:21 PM
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    surprising it hasnt flagged up before with MOTs , insurance data bases etc all now talking to one another.
    • neilmcl
    • By neilmcl 15th Jul 17, 1:52 PM
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    If the dvla have them down as the registered keeper they would.
    Originally posted by AndyMc.....
    Why would you clone a car then put yourself down as a registered keeper
    • AG47
    • By AG47 15th Jul 17, 3:07 PM
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    So I got another 2 red letters for parking violations this morning, both from back in May. Same place same time in the morning. Whoever this guy is, he knows he can park illegally and get away with.

    I have lots of pictures of the cloned car, that the traffic warden took. I am putting them in a file together with pictures of my real car.

    It's like playing spot the difference.

    So I first rand 101 and they took my number, gave me a reference number which is not a crime reference number, and said somebody will call me back. Nobody has called and I have had no missed calls, my phone is on 24/7.

    I also tried ringing dvla, they said it has to be in writing, so I wrote to one dept of the dvla informing them of the clone, and another debt I sent off my v5 requesting a change of registration. Apparently you have to have had so many violations in a week to qualify for new registration number, and I am easily getting that many.

    The last ones I had were from early May, it took that long for them to write to me saying I haven't paid my parking tickets.

    I expect I will have a lot more red letters and violations from May up to now.

    What else can I do if the police still don't get back to me?
    Nothing has been fixed since 2008, it was just pushed into the future
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