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    • Von0974
    • By Von0974 13th Jul 17, 3:06 PM
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    Notice of proposed allocation
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    • 13th Jul 17, 3:06 PM
    Notice of proposed allocation 13th Jul 17 at 3:06 PM
    I received the notice today, I used the forum to enter my defence, now I'm getting a little paniced, does this mean there will definitely be a court date n do I have to prepare a witness statement? Advice needed please
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    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 13th Jul 17, 3:11 PM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 3:11 PM
    It is never inevitable that there will be a hearing, especially if this is CEL. Which PPC?

    If and when you have a letter from your local court, that will tell you the date by which to exchange WS and evidence, and sometimes PPCs discontinue at that stage. No hearing is unstoppable/inevitable, you can see this off earlier but do everything required of you, don't be the one to blink!
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • Von0974
    • By Von0974 13th Jul 17, 3:42 PM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 3:42 PM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 3:42 PM
    OK THANKS, it is CEL, I'm filling in the form and will send court and Cel one too..
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 13th Jul 17, 3:45 PM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 3:45 PM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 3:45 PM
    Honestly, I do not expect CEL to turn up or proceed with many hearings. I reckon they are trying to flush out people who will panic and pay. They have history for discontinuing just before a hearing (lots of times, last year) and then this year they've been staying cases for a long time, then only now have they been picking up DQ stage.

    I don't believe that means they have changed their stance and fully expect discontinuances later on with all these well-defended cases.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • Von0974
    • By Von0974 13th Jul 17, 3:55 PM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 3:55 PM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 3:55 PM
    I will do what form states...but I do want to thank all the members on here for their advice with out it I would have be completely lost.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 13th Jul 17, 4:00 PM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 4:00 PM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 4:00 PM
    We are glad so many people trust us, defend their cases and 99% win! It is worth it.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • Herzlos
    • By Herzlos 13th Jul 17, 4:00 PM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 4:00 PM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 4:00 PM
    If CEL have form for late discontinuations, is it worth filing for a counter claim for costs, to force them to turn up / automatically lose?
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 13th Jul 17, 4:02 PM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 4:02 PM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 4:02 PM
    Too late to counter claim now, and costs are not a 'counter-claim' in themselves.

    Costs can be claimed by writing a letter to the Judge immediately after discontinuance, so this OP can do that if and when it happens, later.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • Von0974
    • By Von0974 9th Aug 17, 6:38 PM
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    • 9th Aug 17, 6:38 PM
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    • 9th Aug 17, 6:38 PM
    Not heard anything back from cel? Are they supposed to send a copy of their. D&Q?
    • Von0974
    • By Von0974 9th Aug 17, 6:42 PM
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    The D&Q I sent stated I had to send to court and copy to CEL? So should they send one to me?
    • nosferatu1001
    • By nosferatu1001 10th Aug 17, 5:23 AM
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    YEs, of course. Ask the court if they got a copy of CELs DQ, and state you have not been served one. Put that in writing to the court
    It goes in as part of how CEL are unreasonable, so you can get more costs under CPR27.14(g)(2).
    • Von0974
    • By Von0974 10th Aug 17, 7:19 AM
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    Do I write to the court now or to the court Iv wished it to allocated to?
    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 10th Aug 17, 7:27 AM
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    Best of luck, some of these should cheer you up.


    https://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&hl=en-GB&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GUEA_en-GBGB707GB707&q=CEL+lose+in+court&gws_rd=ssl
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
    • bluetoffee1878
    • By bluetoffee1878 10th Aug 17, 7:59 AM
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    Every time they do not adhere to practice directions you should write to the allocated court to make them aware.

    The court then should make a general form of judgement or order telling them to comply with whatever they have not done.

    This then gives you a paper trail to show to the court the unreasonable behaviour of the claimant.

    In my case a couple of years ago, they failed to serve DQ, were late in paying the hearing fee, did not file witness statements. On each occasion I informed the court and the court made the relevant order to the claimant (which they ignored).

    They subsequently discontinued the day before the hearing but 'forgot' to tell me.
    • nosferatu1001
    • By nosferatu1001 10th Aug 17, 11:14 AM
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    No court had been allocated? Then write to the CCBC.
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