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    • Kernel Sanders
    • By Kernel Sanders 13th Jul 17, 8:15 AM
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    Can I get a new licence in much less than 3 weeks?
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    • 13th Jul 17, 8:15 AM
    Can I get a new licence in much less than 3 weeks? 13th Jul 17 at 8:15 AM
    I've only ever held an original paper licence, which I am now unable to find. I need to hire a van next week but I'm unable to do so because DVLA website seems to imply that 3 weeks is an aspiration for a new licence and that it could be longer. Is there any way of getting one sooner?
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    • Car 54
    • By Car 54 13th Jul 17, 8:33 AM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 8:33 AM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 8:33 AM
    Probably much quicker.

    However, you may not need it. Do you know your driver number? If so, speak to the hire company. They should be able to check your licence online, but you'd need some other proof of ID.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 13th Jul 17, 11:30 AM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 11:30 AM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 11:30 AM
    Given that you're going from a paper licence to a photocard, I suspect it'll not be as quick as if it was a photocard replacement.

    As Car54 suggests, the important bit is the driver number - if you've got a note of that, great. It can mostly be calculated... There's three random characters, though among the 15.
    See section 5 of this :-
    http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20121003154503/http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/@motor/documents/digitalasset/dg_068626.pdf

    If DVLA won't tell you what it is, then I think I'd be tempted to figure the rest out, then have a bit of guesswork at the last three - https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence
    There's only 26 x 26 x 10 combos... 6,760...

    Top tip - try a 9 for character 13. Their example is, and both mine and SWMBOs are.
    Last edited by AdrianC; 13-07-2017 at 11:41 AM.
    • Le_Kirk
    • By Le_Kirk 13th Jul 17, 11:40 AM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 11:40 AM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 11:40 AM
    I think (but don't quote me on this) that if you have a passport, DVLA can produce a photo-card licence using the photo from the passport as it is stored electronically.

    On a separate note, why is this post so W I D E
    • stockton
    • By stockton 13th Jul 17, 11:50 AM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 11:50 AM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 11:50 AM
    They are usually pretty quick. I am quite impressed with the speed at which DVLA deal with things. Of course if things are not straight forward it may take longer.
    Last edited by stockton; 01-09-2017 at 11:50 AM. Reason: Revision
    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 13th Jul 17, 12:38 PM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 12:38 PM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 12:38 PM
    There's three random characters, though among the 15.
    Originally posted by AdrianC
    Really? In mine there's 4 random characters at the end of my 16 digit licence reference.

    (I've had my licence reference since at least 1987 as a provisional, as I recall - I passed my test in 1988. I first got a provisional licence in 1982 but failed my test 1st time in 1983 ... didn't try again until 87/88).
    Last edited by DoaM; 13-07-2017 at 12:42 PM.
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    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 13th Jul 17, 12:43 PM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 12:43 PM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 12:43 PM
    Ah, yes, you're right in that it's 16.

    It's in three blocks:
    First five of surname
    DoB six digits, rearranged.
    First two initials plus three random. Do you have only one first initial? If so, then the "missing one" is replaced by a 9.

    Have a look at that link - it explains how the DoB is used. Mine fits that pattern, since 1988.
    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 13th Jul 17, 12:44 PM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 12:44 PM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 12:44 PM
    Yes, only 1 forename so that'll explain it.

    I presume they're not bothered about the century in the DOB as they expect someone born in, say 1917, won't still be driving hence their licence will have expired; so someone with the same name applying now could legitimately be assigned the same reference.
    Last edited by DoaM; 13-07-2017 at 12:46 PM.
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    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 13th Jul 17, 12:49 PM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 12:49 PM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 12:49 PM
    Not many people apply for a driving licence at birth - and given that the oldest living person in the UK only had her 113th birthday late last month, they've got a few years to figure it out.
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