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    • lianne2100
    • By lianne2100 12th Jul 17, 5:24 PM
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    Self employed single parent, wanting to have a self employed helper??
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    • 12th Jul 17, 5:24 PM
    Self employed single parent, wanting to have a self employed helper?? 12th Jul 17 at 5:24 PM
    Hi,
    My situation at the moment is that I am a single parent working 16 hours as a domestic cleaner, self employed. I receive Working Tax Credit and Child Tax Credit. My question is: I have a couple of people who are willing to work for me and I have about 5 more clients lined up, I want to take on a self employed helper. How do I declare this? I was thinking I could just write down the amount I gain for every hour they work for me which is £3 and still do my 16 hours. Is the work they do for me to be counted in the 16 hours? I have been to the citizen advice but they were not very helpful. I just want to know if its worth my while or better just to stay working by myself. xx
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    • DUTR
    • By DUTR 12th Jul 17, 5:48 PM
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    Perhaps you will need to check employment legislation, as I beleive now that if you employ anyone, you have to offer a workplace pension.
    • sheramber
    • By sheramber 12th Jul 17, 6:02 PM
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    If they are working for you then they are an employee not self employed.

    https://www.gov.uk/employment-status
    • 00ec25
    • By 00ec25 12th Jul 17, 7:27 PM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 7:27 PM
    as above you cannot take £3 margin from them and say they are self employed (sub) contractors working "for" you unless you can correctly show they are not in fact merely your employees.

    there is an online questionnaire to help with this
    https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/check-employment-status-for-tax/setup

    if they are employees then you will need to do many extra admin activities and incur extra costs, for example:
    - register with HMRC as an employer
    - operate a payroll and send reports to HMRC every month
    - obtain employers liability insurance
    - pensions, holidays
    etc
    Last edited by 00ec25; 12-07-2017 at 7:35 PM.
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