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    • levana2810
    • By levana2810 12th Jul 17, 10:59 AM
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    Do I need my P45
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    • 12th Jul 17, 10:59 AM
    Do I need my P45 12th Jul 17 at 10:59 AM
    Hi,

    I am currently 20 years old and just finished 3 years at college and now looking for a work in my qualified trade... when I was 16 I had a part-time job in a restaurant - literally 1 night a week after school and then the weekend. After about a year they took me off the rota and dismissed me (without actually telling me) - they told me I didn't have a shift "that week" and would contact me the next again week to tell me my shifts but never did so I never went back. So I, therefore, haven't received a P45. Am I going to need it for a new job when I get one because I'm unsure my old job will even remember me working there to give me one. Just getting a little worried - this should've been dealt with at the time but I was young and probably didn't even know what a P45 was at the time.

    Bit confusing I know but thanks in advance!!
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    • p00hsticks
    • By p00hsticks 12th Jul 17, 11:17 AM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 11:17 AM
    I'm not an expert, but I'm pretty sure the answer is no, you won't need it. The main point of a P45 is to ensure that you pay the right amount of tax up front - it tells your new employer how much you've earned and paid in tax so far this tax year.

    From the sound of it your previous job ended a few years ago so how much tax (if any) you paid then doesn't affect your tax and NI deductinos for this year.

    One thing that might be worth double checking when you get your first payslip from your new employer is what tax code they are using for you - if it's anything lower than 1150L then this might indicate that HMRC think you still have your old job as well as the new one.
    • rtho782
    • By rtho782 12th Jul 17, 12:05 PM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 12:05 PM
    No, just fill in a P46, you will be on M1/W1 basis but it will sort itself out at year and, if you don't want to wait you'll be able to phone the tax office and sort it.

    In any case, a 4 year old P45 would be irrelevent, they only care about current tax years.
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    • chrisbur
    • By chrisbur 12th Jul 17, 1:49 PM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 1:49 PM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 1:49 PM
    What used to be the P46 is now called a Starter Checklist.
    If you can declare on this that statement A applies to you...

    A - This is my first job since last 6 April and I have
    not been receiving taxable Jobseeker's Allowance,
    Employment and Support Allowance, taxable
    Incapacity Benefit, State or Occupational Pension

    ....your new employer can use the emergency tax code (1150L) on a cumulative basis, that is it will be backdated to the start of the tax year.

    It is only if you declare statement B that you will be put on the non-cumulative emergency tax code 1150L week1/month1 basis.
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 12th Jul 17, 8:35 PM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 8:35 PM
    There are circumstances in which a P45 issued in one tax year may be of use in the following one, but 3 years on it's just scrap paper.
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