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    • Froggitt
    • By Froggitt 12th Jul 17, 8:54 AM
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    Email spam
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    • 12th Jul 17, 8:54 AM
    Email spam 12th Jul 17 at 8:54 AM
    Don't you hate those emails that say
    You've received this message because you've indicated an interest in receiving information and special offers from Pulte Homes, Del Webb, John Wieland Homes and Neighborhoods or Centex via email
    Yeah right, I really signed up for a mailing list for million dollar houses in https://www.pulte.com/homes/california/northern-california/san-mateo/promenade-209763

    I am reliably informed that Pulte Homes by the time they wake up in a few hours time, will be the proud owners of 5,000 brand spanking new spam emails. Not just one time emails, but on 5,000 mailing lists that will all be periodically emailing them stuff about de-fleeing their dogs, replacing their windows, magic moneytree schemes, mastering guitar playing, international brides, member extensions, stiffening pills etc etc etc.

    In return for spamming me, they are now being spammed. Maybe next time they will think harder about buying mailing lists and pretending that the recipients have signed up for their information.

    I could not possibly condone using this service http://www.mailbait.info/run.html for a similar spamming exercise. Either to pulte@pulte.com or to a spammer of your choice. No, no, no. Don't do it. No really, don't do it. I'm not doing it. No really I'm not. And you shouldn't do it either. Really.
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    • Rosemary7391
    • By Rosemary7391 12th Jul 17, 9:29 AM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 9:29 AM
    That seems a bit harsh... sure someone just didn't make a typo when putting their email address in? I get that fairly often as one of my email addresses is apparently very similar to another. I just unsubscribe from her stuff.
    Me escondo detras de mi lengua... tengo miedo de que me entiendas... pero me gustara que me entendases ¡Ayudame!
    • Froggitt
    • By Froggitt 12th Jul 17, 10:25 AM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 10:25 AM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 10:25 AM
    Unfortunately I have ended up on a mailing list that someone appears to be selling to companies selling all sorts of shoite. They know full well they have purchased a list, and that I have not subscribed.

    If everyone makes sure that spammers all end up on spam mailing lists, maybe they will cease and desist from spamming.
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    • Rosemary7391
    • By Rosemary7391 12th Jul 17, 10:56 AM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 10:56 AM
    That seems a most strange way to sell a million dollar house though!
    Me escondo detras de mi lengua... tengo miedo de que me entiendas... pero me gustara que me entendases ¡Ayudame!
    • takman
    • By takman 12th Jul 17, 12:44 PM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 12:44 PM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 12:44 PM
    Unfortunately I have ended up on a mailing list that someone appears to be selling to companies selling all sorts of shoite. They know full well they have purchased a list, and that I have not subscribed.

    If everyone makes sure that spammers all end up on spam mailing lists, maybe they will cease and desist from spamming.
    Originally posted by Froggitt
    How do you know what email address they are sending the email from. If it's a spammer i doubt they would use a genuine address as the "from" address.
    • Froggitt
    • By Froggitt 12th Jul 17, 12:51 PM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 12:51 PM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 12:51 PM
    They want the recipients to respond to them with "Yes please a million dollar house for me".......why on earth would they put an incorrect or invalid email address on the email?

    BTW I accept that spamming is not their day job, however they are using spammy methods to market themselves.
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    • angryparcel
    • By angryparcel 12th Jul 17, 12:54 PM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 12:54 PM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 12:54 PM
    Unfortunately I have ended up on a mailing list that someone appears to be selling to companies selling all sorts of shoite. They know full well they have purchased a list, and that I have not subscribed.

    If everyone makes sure that spammers all end up on spam mailing lists, maybe they will cease and desist from spamming.
    Originally posted by Froggitt
    Yes you have either clicked on a link in an email or opened and attachment that has told a spammer they have hit a live email address, so they will sell this to other spammers etc. How a spammer works is they will sign to to a hosting account with fake details and then spam from the server until they are found out and terminated , then they just move to another host and do it again and 9/10 and email will say its from lets say forumteam @ moneysavingexpert.com, but if you loo at the header it will give true sender details which would say something like hatbuzdsr @ funmai.ru, so to anyone it looks like its come from MSE, but infact it is from russia, so you click on links thinking it is from MSE, but now you have allowed spammers into your PC
    • takman
    • By takman 12th Jul 17, 1:00 PM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 1:00 PM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 1:00 PM
    They want the recipients to respond to them with "Yes please a million dollar house for me".......why on earth would they put an incorrect or invalid email address on the email?

    BTW I accept that spamming is not their day job, however they are using spammy methods to market themselves.
    Originally posted by Froggitt
    I would have thought that they have a like to website in the emails which gives the details of the house and how to contact them if they are interested in buying one.

    So the email actually asks you to reply if your interested and doesn't like to a website?
    • MrJones1
    • By MrJones1 13th Jul 17, 6:45 PM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 6:45 PM
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    • 13th Jul 17, 6:45 PM
    To send bulk emails because you got an email that you class as "spam" is a bit harsh. The best thing you can do is to mark the email as "junk mail". When many people do this, the company's email will end up in the "junk mail" folder next time they send emails. Not only for you but for other people as well.
    • Froggitt
    • By Froggitt 13th Jul 17, 8:21 PM
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    To send bulk emails because you got an email that you class as "spam" is a bit harsh. The best thing you can do is to mark the email as "junk mail". When many people do this, the company's email will end up in the "junk mail" folder next time they send emails. Not only for you but for other people as well.
    Originally posted by MrJones1
    Wait a minute.
    You've received this message because you've indicated an interest in receiving information and special offers from Pulte Homes, Del Webb, John Wieland Homes and Neighborhoods or Centex via email
    They know I have not shown any interest. They also know they have purchased a mailing list. As far as Im concerned, it is therefore totally unwanted spam.

    Just like this spammer....

    I would love to speak to you about my will, Kindly get back to me....
    Bless.
    Catherine Benson
    .....these people deserve to be spammed back so that they can see how useless a tool it is these days.....even if only half the emails got through, its still a few thousand, and if they are trying to filter out legitimate responses from the list, it will take them hours or days to do so.

    Harsh.......not at all. They probably sent out tens of thousands of their spam. They deserve to have them back.
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    • MrJones1
    • By MrJones1 13th Jul 17, 10:01 PM
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    You stated that sending bulk emails is a useless tool. If that's the case, they have already lost their money on buying an ineffective mailing list. Why waste your time with sending emails back?
    • angryparcel
    • By angryparcel 13th Jul 17, 10:40 PM
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    Harsh.......not at all. They probably sent out tens of thousands of their spam. They deserve to have them back.
    Originally posted by Froggitt
    they send spam to auto generated emails, I have had them to emails i dont use and never give out, but you returning an email to them just tells them they have hit a live email address and then they will sell that email on to other spammers, best advice is to report the email with headers to spamcop and them delete it, NEVER reply to a spam email
    • Froggitt
    • By Froggitt 14th Jul 17, 9:00 AM
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    they send spam to auto generated emails, I have had them to emails i dont use and never give out, but you returning an email to them just tells them they have hit a live email address and then they will sell that email on to other spammers, best advice is to report the email with headers to spamcop and them delete it, NEVER reply to a spam email
    Originally posted by angryparcel
    Nope I didnt reply to their email. However they are now on 5,000 mailing lists now.
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    • Froggitt
    • By Froggitt 14th Jul 17, 9:02 AM
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    You stated that sending bulk emails is a useless tool. If that's the case, they have already lost their money on buying an ineffective mailing list. Why waste your time with sending emails back?
    Originally posted by MrJones1
    Its useless if the email address they used now receives a few thousand spam emails a week, such that they can no longer identify real enquiries in the haystack.
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    • takman
    • By takman 14th Jul 17, 9:30 AM
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    Its useless if the email address they used now receives a few thousand spam emails a week, such that they can no longer identify real enquiries in the haystack.
    Originally posted by Froggitt
    But like i said above if the email is from a spoof address and it contains a link to a website where people can enquire about the house, then they will receive none of the spam emails and it won't effect them at all.

    Here is a website to demonstrate how it works:

    https://emkei.cz


    You will see that you can choose any "from" address that you want when sending the email, it doesn't matter if it exists or not.
    • Froggitt
    • By Froggitt 14th Jul 17, 4:21 PM
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    But like i said above if the email is from a spoof address and it contains a link to a website where people can enquire about the house, then they will receive none of the spam emails and it won't effect them at all.

    Here is a website to demonstrate how it works:

    https://emkei.cz


    You will see that you can choose any "from" address that you want when sending the email, it doesn't matter if it exists or not.
    Originally posted by takman
    Their site was at https://www.pulte.com/homes/california/northern-california/san-mateo/promenade-209763

    Their email address was pulte@pulte.com

    Looks like a proper "contact us" type email address to me.
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    • takman
    • By takman 14th Jul 17, 8:23 PM
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    Their site was at https://www.pulte.com/homes/california/northern-california/san-mateo/promenade-209763

    Their email address was pulte@pulte.com

    Looks like a proper "contact us" type email address to me.
    Originally posted by Froggitt
    Using email checkers online it does appear to accept incoming mail, which is strange when they are apparently sending out spam.
    • pmduk
    • By pmduk 15th Jul 17, 8:47 AM
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    If you dislike spam emails so much why contribute to the industry by generating further spam. It seems childish to me.
    Last edited by pmduk; 15-07-2017 at 8:55 AM.
    • Froggitt
    • By Froggitt 15th Jul 17, 9:29 AM
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    If you dislike spam emails so much why contribute to the industry by generating further spam. It seems childish to me.
    Originally posted by pmduk
    My aim is to discourage them to spam any more. Its not as if Im spamming innocent recipients.....like they did.
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    • Froggitt
    • By Froggitt 15th Jul 17, 9:30 AM
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    Using email checkers online it does appear to accept incoming mail, which is strange when they are apparently sending out spam.
    Originally posted by takman
    I suspect theyve bought an email list, being told it is a few thousand qualified potential expensive home buyers in California.

    They wont be buying any more such lists.
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