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    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 11th Jul 17, 12:09 PM
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    the demise of Ebico
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    • 11th Jul 17, 12:09 PM
    the demise of Ebico 11th Jul 17 at 12:09 PM
    been with ebico for many yrs , no standing charge , however SSE took over , promised to keep the tarrif , but within weeks have cancelled it


    electric
    previous (pre payment meter)

    0.00 standing , 13.82per unit

    as of august

    28,76 standing 13.82 per unit

    gas

    was standing 0.00 3.83 unit

    now 27.41 standing 3.35 per unit

    currant projected

    gas £292

    new projected £393


    elec

    currant projected £112

    new projected £210

    gas increase £99
    elec increase £97


    can anyone suggest a better company to bring down my costs


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    • Cardew
    • By Cardew 11th Jul 17, 12:17 PM
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    • 11th Jul 17, 12:17 PM
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    • 11th Jul 17, 12:17 PM
    The good news - Ebico still lives! Still with a zero Standing charge!!

    They are now partnered with Robin Hood Energy instead of SSE.

    Loads of posts on this forum on this subject.
    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 11th Jul 17, 1:22 PM
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    • 11th Jul 17, 1:22 PM
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    • 11th Jul 17, 1:22 PM
    correct the zero Standing charge is available , but not for pre payment meters ,

    the tarrif for zero Standing charge is 16.60 for elec and 4.96 for gas

    elec = £351

    gas = £170

    not a very good deal is it

    eversmart seem to be best for me

    pay as you go ,

    gas 4.32 =£148

    elec 14.70 = £311

    no standing charge
    • trickytree1963
    • By trickytree1963 11th Jul 17, 1:39 PM
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    • 11th Jul 17, 1:39 PM
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    • 11th Jul 17, 1:39 PM
    There are other companies with no SC for PAYG, tend to charge higher unit rates though. Nothing SSE do surprises me anymore, title of thread is misleading though, Ebico isn't the cause of this SSE is
    • ChrisJJ
    • By ChrisJJ 11th Jul 17, 2:53 PM
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    • 11th Jul 17, 2:53 PM
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    • 11th Jul 17, 2:53 PM
    I've looked at Robin Hood Energy and can't find the tariff with no standing charge - could you let me know what it's called please?

    I received the letter today telling me that I'm being moved to a tariff with a standing charge and am not happy about the rise in bills this will bring.
    • cally6008
    • By cally6008 11th Jul 17, 2:57 PM
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    • 11th Jul 17, 2:57 PM
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    • 11th Jul 17, 2:57 PM
    I got the same letter but my letter has a "we'll repay you the difference" section on it.
    They say they will credit the difference for the next 6 months by crediting £8 to my account each month.
    Electric is prepay, gas is direct debit.

    For us, I think we're just going to stay with them for now.
    Only just home from work and read the letter so going to look around and see what others are saying.

    I will not be going with Robin Hood Energy. The previous comments about them totally put me off.

    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 11th Jul 17, 3:19 PM
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    • 11th Jul 17, 3:19 PM
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    • 11th Jul 17, 3:19 PM
    I've looked at Robin Hood Energy and can't find the tariff with no standing charge - could you let me know what it's called please?

    I received the letter today telling me that I'm being moved to a tariff with a standing charge and am not happy about the rise in bills this will bring.
    Originally posted by ChrisJJ

    the only no standing chaarge one is for NON prepayment meters and is

    elec 16.60 per unit

    gas 4.96 per unit

    they will remove pre pay meters , robin hood do not do credit checks

    HOWEVER

    if you allow your pre pay to trip over to emergency in previous 6 mths to change you will not qualify
    • footyguy
    • By footyguy 11th Jul 17, 6:08 PM
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    • 11th Jul 17, 6:08 PM
    • #8
    • 11th Jul 17, 6:08 PM
    been with ebico for many yrs , no standing charge , however SSE took over , promised to keep the tarrif , but within weeks have cancelled it


    electric
    previous (pre payment meter)

    0.00 standing , 13.82per unit

    as of august

    28,76 standing 13.82 per unit

    gas

    was standing 0.00 3.83 unit

    now 27.41 standing 3.35 per unit

    currant projected

    gas £292

    new projected £393


    elec

    currant projected £112

    new projected £210

    gas increase £99
    elec increase £97


    can anyone suggest a better company to bring down my costs


    Originally posted by pappa golf
    Consult a comparison site to find the best deal(s) for you.
    However, now the authorities have interfered with PPM tariffs by capping them, there really isn't much to chose between any supplier for those with a PPM.
    • footyguy
    • By footyguy 11th Jul 17, 6:11 PM
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    • #9
    • 11th Jul 17, 6:11 PM
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    • 11th Jul 17, 6:11 PM
    The good news - Ebico still lives! Still with a zero Standing charge!!

    They are now partnered with Robin Hood Energy instead of SSE.

    Loads of posts on this forum on this subject.
    Originally posted by Cardew
    You are correct that Ebico still lives.

    However, there is now a standing charge for those supplied via a PPM - that's government interference for you.
    • footyguy
    • By footyguy 11th Jul 17, 6:13 PM
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    There are other companies with no SC for PAYG, ...
    Originally posted by trickytree1963
    I don't think there are for those supplied via PPM

    But I'm all ears if you know otherwise

    Ebico changed it due to the nature of the price caps (i.e. they cannot any longer charge significantly higher unit prices) - they said the only way to supply now that makes business sense is to impose a standing charge
    Last edited by footyguy; 11-07-2017 at 6:15 PM.
    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 11th Jul 17, 6:32 PM
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    I don't think there are for those supplied via PPM

    But I'm all ears if you know otherwise

    Ebico changed it due to the nature of the price caps (i.e. they cannot any longer charge significantly higher unit prices) - they said the only way to supply now that makes business sense is to impose a standing charge
    Originally posted by footyguy
    eversmart

    pay as you go ,

    gas 4.32 =£148

    elec 14.70 = £311

    no standing charge
    • footyguy
    • By footyguy 11th Jul 17, 7:14 PM
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    eversmart

    pay as you go ,

    gas 4.32 =£148

    elec 14.70 = £311

    no standing charge
    Originally posted by pappa golf
    Where/how do I find that?

    I went to their website and looked in the Eastern supply region and was offered only this



    Edit: Looks like user grrfy found similar to me in another thread you suggested that supplier in
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5677838 (post#6)
    Last edited by footyguy; 11-07-2017 at 7:24 PM.
    • trickytree1963
    • By trickytree1963 11th Jul 17, 9:11 PM
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    I don't think there are for those supplied via PPM

    But I'm all ears if you know otherwise

    Ebico changed it due to the nature of the price caps (i.e. they cannot any longer charge significantly higher unit prices) - they said the only way to supply now that makes business sense is to impose a standing charge
    Originally posted by footyguy
    Utliita? E Energy? Think they have NIL SC but higher unit rates for PPM
    • EachPenny
    • By EachPenny 11th Jul 17, 10:57 PM
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    been with ebico for many yrs , no standing charge , however SSE took over , promised to keep the tarrif , but within weeks have cancelled it....
    Originally posted by pappa golf
    A completely misleading and inaccurate thread title with some Mark Twain echoes.

    Your complaint is about SSE and how they are treating their customers, it has nothing to do with Ebico.
    "In the future, everyone will be rich for 15 minutes"
    • House Martin
    • By House Martin 12th Jul 17, 8:35 AM
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    I have just switched over a vacant property I own to Ebico on a no standing charge tariff.Its gone through on 3 rd July..Ebico are now in partnership with Robin Hood Energy..any poster mentioning SSE are talking about a historical connection which has gone and need to delete their posts.
    • whattochoose
    • By whattochoose 12th Jul 17, 8:51 AM
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    After all this kerfuffle....


    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5608866

    I too have received a letter from SSE telling me they're moving me from my SSE/Ebico account to a SSE standard tariff beginning on 24th August, which they calculate will increase my gas charges by £44.69 annually, and to partially compensate, they will credit me with equal monthly amounts of £3.73 for the next 6 months.
    I will take advantage of this. However, after that they can keep their SSE standard tariff and I will move to Ebico/Robin Hood for my gas and continue to benefit from the "no standing charge" rule.
    • EachPenny
    • By EachPenny 12th Jul 17, 9:34 AM
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    After all this kerfuffle....

    I will take advantage of this. However, after that they can keep their SSE standard tariff and I will move to Ebico/Robin Hood for my gas and continue to benefit from the "no standing charge" rule.
    Originally posted by whattochoose
    Why wait until then? As part of the kerfuffle it was discussed how Ebico/RHE were reducing their charges whereas customers staying with SSE would see their prices increasing. People getting WHD or who felt SSE's customer service was likely to be better than Ebico/RHE's - and stayed with SSE - have already been paying more for their energy than they did with Ebico/SSE for some time now.

    If people no longer think SSE's customer service is worth paying a premium for then I don't see the sense in delaying the switch to Ebico/RHE (unless you have WHD, or can get a cheaper deal elsewhere)
    "In the future, everyone will be rich for 15 minutes"
    • footyguy
    • By footyguy 12th Jul 17, 2:15 PM
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    Utliita? E Energy? Think they have NIL SC but higher unit rates for PPM
    Originally posted by trickytree1963
    Unit prices are capped for PPM metered customers- that's whats causing all the issues

    I think you are correct about utilita, but I think you need their smart meters to access that tariff (and I don;t think a Utilita PPM smart meter is not compatible with any other supplier)

    E energy did come up on EHL, but it's not available to purchase through EHL - you have to go direct. I can't get the E website to work.
    (I.m not certain it is available as according to EHL it has 2 rate charging, i.e. charging higher for initiual units consumed, and I thought that was outlawed ages ago)
    • silverwhistle
    • By silverwhistle 12th Jul 17, 2:36 PM
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    As I commented on another thread, I received the letter from SSE this morning and my gas projection went from £34 to £123!

    Fortunately my switch back to RHE is already underway.
    • ChrisJJ
    • By ChrisJJ 12th Jul 17, 3:13 PM
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    I've been speaking to Robin Hood Energy today and am fairly sure I'll be switching to them shortly. One question I forgot to ask though, is whether they are part of the Warm Home Discount scheme. That makes a significant difference to my bills, and it wouldn't be worthwhile changing if they didn't provide that.

    Does anyone know if they are part of that scheme? (I will try ringing again but, good lord, the waiting times...)
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