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    • littlerock
    • By littlerock 10th Jul 17, 3:13 PM
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    Toilet with swirling flush
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    • 10th Jul 17, 3:13 PM
    Toilet with swirling flush 10th Jul 17 at 3:13 PM
    We had a new bathroom and new toilet (separate room) installed about 6 years ago. The fittings came from Bathstore. The bathroom wc has a smaller version of the Edwardian style wc in the separate toilet room.

    The flushing mechanisms have never had much of a swirl - which I put down at the time to EU water saving regulations (maybe I imagined this.) We live in a very hard water area so some limescale deposits are to be expected but our toilet rim jets seem to be very clogged and now there is no swirling mechanism at all.

    Would this failure to swirl, be due to the clogged rim jets or the design of the mechanism itself? The answer affects whether or not we need to do a major overhaul.
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    • wealdroam
    • By wealdroam 10th Jul 17, 3:25 PM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 3:25 PM
    We had a new bathroom and new toilet (separate room) installed about 6 years ago. The fittings came from Bathstore. The bathroom wc has a smaller version of the Edwardian style wc in the separate toilet room.

    The flushing mechanisms have never had much of a swirl - which I put down at the time to EU water saving regulations (maybe I imagined this.) We live in a very hard water area so some limescale deposits are to be expected but our toilet rim jets seem to be very clogged and now there is no swirling mechanism at all.

    Would this failure to swirl, be due to the clogged rim jets or the design of the mechanism itself? The answer affects whether or not we need to do a major overhaul.
    Originally posted by littlerock
    Major overhaul??

    I would think unclogging the rim jets would be the first thing to do.
    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 10th Jul 17, 3:28 PM
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    If there was some sort of swirl, the jets are clogged and now there's no swirling, all you need to do is clear the limescale. Use vinegar and lots of elbow grease to shift it. You may need to leave the vinegar to soak overnight, perhaps by soaking thick lengths of pipe-cleaners and leaving them in the jets before washing it through in the morning.

    I can't see that limescale justifies a major overhaul.
    • littlerock
    • By littlerock 10th Jul 17, 7:27 PM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 7:27 PM
    No on its own it would not. But I have been staying with my brother this weekend and their elderly wc seems to have a much better swirling action than ours ever had. So now I am not sure how much of the lack of swirl is down to limescale deposits round the rim and how much to the design of the wc itself and/or reducing water use regulations.
    • littlerock
    • By littlerock 11th Jul 17, 10:27 AM
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    • 11th Jul 17, 10:27 AM
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    • 11th Jul 17, 10:27 AM
    Just had a look at the wc in the bathroom which is same model, with a small water closet. It is only used occasionally so not very clogged up. There is a strong jet of water at the back and in the front and smaller jets to get a sheet of water on each side, but NO swirling action. AT ALL. It seems to have been designed without one. Is this some water saving measure does anyone know?
    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 11th Jul 17, 10:53 AM
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    • 11th Jul 17, 10:53 AM
    What's with the obsession with swirling? Yes, I believe there is some sort of water-saving element to the design of modern WCs, and with good reason. Does your toilet work? If so, don't worry about swirling. Yes, old toilets with bigger cisterns and particularly high-level cisterns delivered a deluge not matched by today's models, but there were far fewer people back then and water isn't an unlimited resource, particularly in the south of the country.

    Try giving Ed Miliband a call.
    • casper_g
    • By casper_g 11th Jul 17, 12:04 PM
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    • 11th Jul 17, 12:04 PM
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    • 11th Jul 17, 12:04 PM
    I've no idea what this whole swirling thing is, to be honest. I've lived in at least ten houses, ranging in age from 1850s to 2000s and I don't recall any of them having a toilet that "swirled".

    Unless you enjoy watching your toilet swirling, the more relevant question is whether the flush effectively carries waste products away. Does it?
    • littlerock
    • By littlerock 12th Jul 17, 8:42 AM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 8:42 AM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 8:42 AM
    A swirling action, where a jet of water swirls round the basin at a sideways angle, seems to me to be more effective at cleaning it. The problem with my current wc is that there is a small space left under the downward rim jets , like you might expect where the water comes out fast in a forward direction, that never gets water on it directly. (Bit like water comes out on a waterfall and leaves small gap underneath) this is where the deposits from the hard water build up.

    In the last two weeks I have seen 2 wcs with swirling action, the water cleans these small area ps missed by the down jets.

    I would be chiefly interested to know if anyone here has bought a wc with a swirling action recently.as none of the suppliers on line mention how the cleaning action works.
    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 12th Jul 17, 9:21 AM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 9:21 AM
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    • 12th Jul 17, 9:21 AM
    Hang on, I'll go and flush mine, come back and report...
    • DaftyDuck
    • By DaftyDuck 12th Jul 17, 9:28 AM
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    One Duck off to report, one reporting in. Four "no swirls"!

    Now, do they swirl in the other direction in the southern hemisphere? It will keep me awake with worry for not knowing....

    However, practical advice. Some of the loo blocks that you shove in your cistern are anti limescale. I hate the things, but they might clear these jets over time.

    Ifthe flush still clears the bowl, I'd just find something else to worry about.
    • DaftyDuck
    • By DaftyDuck 12th Jul 17, 9:30 AM
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    Hang on, I'll go and flush mine, come back and report...
    Originally posted by Aylesbury Duck
    Prunes might help you repost more quickly......

    Edit to add: .... more than prunes required, or a very large house....
    Last edited by DaftyDuck; 12-07-2017 at 9:39 AM.
    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 12th Jul 17, 9:51 AM
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    Prunes might help you repost more quickly......

    Edit to add: .... more than prunes required, or a very large house....
    Originally posted by DaftyDuck
    I'm back! In the words of Partridge, I had to allow for...complications. Nevertheless, "one yank, all gone!"

    Anyway, in this duck household I'm pleased to report the following: Two out of three ain't bad. Swirls, that is.
    • DaftyDuck
    • By DaftyDuck 12th Jul 17, 12:18 PM
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    ... I am relieved....
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