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    • higgledypiggledy_pop
    • By higgledypiggledy_pop 10th Jul 17, 11:42 AM
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    higgledypiggledy_pop
    Can I terminate my tenant's tenancy early for having an unauthorised pet?
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    • 10th Jul 17, 11:42 AM
    Can I terminate my tenant's tenancy early for having an unauthorised pet? 10th Jul 17 at 11:42 AM
    I am renting a flat to a couple on a 12 month tenancy agreement. When they applied they did not say anything about having a pet and in the tenancy agreement it states that tenants must get permission for any pets from the landlord first. I have been informed by a neighbour that one of the tenants has been seen going in and out of the flat with a dog, and the dog has also been seen in the garden. I asked the tenants about it and they claimed that it didn't belong to them but was a friend's who had been visiting or had left the dog there for a short time. I told them that I did not want a dog in the flat at all even if it was a friend's and that they should stop allowing the friend to bring the dog in, but it has been seen again since by my neighbour who watches and keeps me informed, when the woman tenant is around she often seems to have the dog with her.
    I think that the dog is probably really theirs or has been staying with them and I don't want it there. How can I go about ending their tenancy for breach of contract? Will I have to obtain proof that the dog is there? Does it matter legally whether it belongs to them or not?
    They also pre-paid all 12 months of their rent before moving in and have eight months remaining on the tenancy, will this make it harder for me to get them out?
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    • leslieknope
    • By leslieknope 11th Jul 17, 9:46 PM
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    leslieknope
    They know my name, my date of birth and my property's address
    Originally posted by higgledypiggledy_pop
    you are, as they say, up the creek without a paddle. the dog is the very least of your concerns if your dodgy agent hasn't been paying your proper tax...

    i do feel some sympathy for you because you don't seem very well versed in reality. you say you've inherited this and have never worked, so i imagine there is a lot about tax that you don't know. now's the time to start reading.

    https://www.gov.uk/renting-out-a-property/paying-tax

    actually, read through the whole guide. please. also: your agent has been royally screwing you for over a year.

    wolfdogs (such as czech wolfdog, irish wolfhounds, huskies etc) are actually very sociable creatures and quite lovely if worked well. i've owned dogs of many sizes and the worst for destroying property were the little yappy types. and people care a lot about their pets, they are members of the family, so you'll find most people will train them and keep the house clean.

    by all means, you can charge them for a deep clean when they leave. and contrary to what you've worked yourself up to believe, most tenants are quire reasonable and will leave if the landlord goes through the proper process - giving notice at the end of the contracted period in ample time for them to find somewhere else. the people here have simply explained that you cannot end their contract before the 12 months is complete and that yes, there can be occasions where you will have to go through a formal eviction process. but as they have paid their rent upfront and you haven't had any other issues, i doubt you will need to do this.

    the ancestral house is not your home right now. it is theirs. until those 12 months are up, take your feelings out of the equation. it is your property but not your home.

    personally i would approach them and say while you're not happy they have a pet despite the term in the contract (which others have pointed out to you is slightly ambiguous and in the eyes of the law, an ambiguous contract favours the party that did not draft it) you would like to agree with them that they will make sure they pay for a professional clean when they vacate the property. this will solve the problem of any allergies affecting you.

    also, furniture can be damaged in any manner of ways. our sofa has seen more damage from a 3 year old than our dog. would you ban children too? but if any of the furniture is damaged, you can claim for this in the deposit. as long as your agent actually did a check in inventory to prove the state of the 300 year old mattress (which i hope you're not still using)? and protected the deposit? so regardless of any pets or children or a tap dancing troupe, you can claim for any damage from the tenants that's not the usual wear and tear.

    and if this is a wind up, bravo. i'm impressed with your dedication and attention to detail.
    CCCC #33: £42/£240
    DFW: £4355/£4405
    • gonebust
    • By gonebust 11th Jul 17, 9:46 PM
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    Ok, I've read the motorhome one before, but what are the chocolate orange and the bag for life ones all about? Can't see anything obvious in search results.
    Originally posted by Red-Squirrel
    The recycled chocolate orange must be two years ago, marriage board, hilarious

    I'm waiting for anal bleaching before I score 10
    • leslieknope
    • By leslieknope 11th Jul 17, 9:47 PM
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    leslieknope
    The recycled chocolate orange must be two years ago, marriage board, hilarious

    I'm waiting for anal bleaching before I score 10
    Originally posted by gonebust
    i need a link to both of these! it's been a miserable day, i could use a laugh!
    CCCC #33: £42/£240
    DFW: £4355/£4405
    • Pixie5740
    • By Pixie5740 11th Jul 17, 9:54 PM
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    Pixie5740
    Chocolate Orange

    Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen pounds nineteen and six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds nought and six, result misery.
    • gonebust
    • By gonebust 11th Jul 17, 9:54 PM
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    gonebust
    i need a link to both of these! it's been a miserable day, i could use a laugh!
    Originally posted by leslieknope
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5149094&highlight=terry+chocolate +orange


    The anal bleaching has long been deleted
    • Pyxis
    • By Pyxis 11th Jul 17, 9:58 PM
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    Pyxis
    Oh dear! Everytime I glance down the list of thread titles, I see this:
    "Can I terminate my tenant's tenancy early for having an uncircumcised pet?"

    I really must book an optician's appointment.
    (I just lurve spiders! )
    INFJ(Turbulent).

    Her Greenliness Baroness Pyxis of the Alphabetty, P.P..
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    X ~O
    • gonebust
    • By gonebust 11th Jul 17, 10:10 PM
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    gonebust
    Do Direwolves need to be circumcised ?

    I don't see many of them down the high street
    • Red-Squirrel
    • By Red-Squirrel 11th Jul 17, 10:29 PM
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    Some of those replies are genius.

    Need to find the bag for life one now, any clues?
    • Lazarus Blackstar
    • By Lazarus Blackstar 11th Jul 17, 11:11 PM
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    Neighbour be like........



    More like a nosey old t*at who needs to get a life & stop winding you up & exaggerating.

    Although I actually think YOU are winding us up with this inventive story just for attention.
    Good one but you'll never beat the dead dog burried in the garden & dug up story or the caravan in garden thread!!!!
    "The truth is of course is that there is no journey.
    We are arriving and departing all at the same time."

    • DCFC79
    • By DCFC79 11th Jul 17, 11:15 PM
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    DCFC79
    Why not get some help with the tax situation like an accountant if its not something you can handle bit if you say you were self employed then doing the tax etc should b a cinch.

    Get a new agent that wont shaft you.
    Do some reading on what being a landlord entails.

    And why for the love of god did you rent the flat out, why not live in the property yourself if the contents eg the bed etc was important.
    Last edited by DCFC79; 21-07-2017 at 8:08 AM.
    Je Suis Charlie
    • deannatrois
    • By deannatrois 11th Jul 17, 11:39 PM
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    I am sure you are having a general rethink on what you have done and why but I would have thought an accountant would cost a lot less than this agent has done. Have they take 40% of your rental price for doing very little?

    While it would be nice to not have this happen in our society, unfortunately if you lay down on the road with the words 'mug' printed on your forehead, someone will come along delighted to treat you as such.

    You are obviously intelligent, you value your assets, stop being so careless and lazy about them if you want to keep them. Treat them as they should be treated, with care.
    • leslieknope
    • By leslieknope 11th Jul 17, 11:54 PM
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    leslieknope


    i never thought of regifting my choccies. would save money AND calories!!
    CCCC #33: £42/£240
    DFW: £4355/£4405
    • Riggyman
    • By Riggyman 12th Jul 17, 12:23 AM
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    Riggyman
    They know my name, my date of birth and my property's address
    Originally posted by higgledypiggledy_pop
    Are there vampires though?
    • Riggyman
    • By Riggyman 12th Jul 17, 12:24 AM
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    Riggyman
    They know my name, my date of birth and my property's address
    Originally posted by higgledypiggledy_pop
    The recycled chocolate orange must be two years ago, marriage board, hilarious

    I'm waiting for anal bleaching before I score 10
    Originally posted by gonebust
    Oh my word!
    • elsien
    • By elsien 12th Jul 17, 12:34 AM
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    elsien
    I do have to ask myself whether someone who appears not to have needed to work, and has an ancestral pile(ish) and a four poster bed in situ (screwed to the floor no less) as part of a larger inheritance would come anywhere near MSE forums in the first place instead of to the family retainers solicitor/accountant. Lovely though you nice folk are - well, some of you anyway.
    But I would very much miss the OP if they flounced back to chez dire-wolf, so please can we not scare them off.
    Much obliged.
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
    • Penitent
    • By Penitent 12th Jul 17, 9:36 AM
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    Penitent
    Some of those replies are genius.

    Need to find the bag for life one now, any clues?
    Originally posted by Red-Squirrel
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=2636903

    I'm also partial to the lady who wasn't emotionally prepared to cook a turkey:

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4853230
    • leslieknope
    • By leslieknope 12th Jul 17, 11:38 AM
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    leslieknope
    i'm definitely using the 'not emotionally prepared to cook' excuse in the future!
    CCCC #33: £42/£240
    DFW: £4355/£4405
    • leslieknope
    • By leslieknope 12th Jul 17, 12:49 PM
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    leslieknope
    you forgot ladies of the night! it's a victorian gothic bingo card!
    CCCC #33: £42/£240
    DFW: £4355/£4405
    • fairy lights
    • By fairy lights 12th Jul 17, 12:50 PM
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    fairy lights
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=2636903

    I'm also partial to the lady who wasn't emotionally prepared to cook a turkey:

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4853230
    Originally posted by Penitent
    Ooh remember the woman who was trying to sell her late fathers house, and posted the rightmove listing, and the 'Dad' floral arrangement was dumped in the back garden?
    • Penitent
    • By Penitent 12th Jul 17, 12:55 PM
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    Penitent
    Ooh remember the woman who was trying to sell her late fathers house, and posted the rightmove listing, and the 'Dad' floral arrangement was dumped in the back garden?
    Originally posted by fairy lights
    I didn't see that one, but it sounds gloriously funny/awful.
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