Your browser isn't supported
It looks like you're using an old web browser. To get the most out of the site and to ensure guides display correctly, we suggest upgrading your browser now. Download the latest:

Welcome to the MSE Forums

We're home to a fantastic community of MoneySavers but anyone can post. Please exercise caution & report spam, illegal, offensive or libellous posts/messages: click "report" or email forumteam@.

Search
  • FIRST POST
    • higgledypiggledy_pop
    • By higgledypiggledy_pop 10th Jul 17, 11:42 AM
    • 124Posts
    • 38Thanks
    higgledypiggledy_pop
    Can I terminate my tenant's tenancy early for having an unauthorised pet?
    • #1
    • 10th Jul 17, 11:42 AM
    Can I terminate my tenant's tenancy early for having an unauthorised pet? 10th Jul 17 at 11:42 AM
    I am renting a flat to a couple on a 12 month tenancy agreement. When they applied they did not say anything about having a pet and in the tenancy agreement it states that tenants must get permission for any pets from the landlord first. I have been informed by a neighbour that one of the tenants has been seen going in and out of the flat with a dog, and the dog has also been seen in the garden. I asked the tenants about it and they claimed that it didn't belong to them but was a friend's who had been visiting or had left the dog there for a short time. I told them that I did not want a dog in the flat at all even if it was a friend's and that they should stop allowing the friend to bring the dog in, but it has been seen again since by my neighbour who watches and keeps me informed, when the woman tenant is around she often seems to have the dog with her.
    I think that the dog is probably really theirs or has been staying with them and I don't want it there. How can I go about ending their tenancy for breach of contract? Will I have to obtain proof that the dog is there? Does it matter legally whether it belongs to them or not?
    They also pre-paid all 12 months of their rent before moving in and have eight months remaining on the tenancy, will this make it harder for me to get them out?
Page 11
    • ViolaLass
    • By ViolaLass 11th Jul 17, 3:13 PM
    • 4,979 Posts
    • 6,868 Thanks
    ViolaLass
    I do apologise, why don't I ask my tenants to add some hypoallergenic rats and their army of friendly fleas to the petting zoo they are creating in my ancestral home.
    Originally posted by higgledypiggledy_pop
    Maybe you shouldn't rent the property out if you are so attached to it.
    • ThePants999
    • By ThePants999 11th Jul 17, 3:45 PM
    • 706 Posts
    • 792 Thanks
    ThePants999
    What a thread. If not a wind-up, I actually have a little bit of sympathy for the OP - yes, they're pretty much the worst landlord ever, but let's be fair - if you knew absolutely nothing about being a landlord and had no intention of being one, and someone called you up and said "allow me to let your property, you won't have to lift a finger", you'd be a bit upset when you discovered just what you'd actually signed up to. And even more upset when this someone vanished with the tenant's deposit and the money that was supposed to be set aside to pay your taxes, which I'll wager has happened here.
    • higgledypiggledy_pop
    • By higgledypiggledy_pop 11th Jul 17, 4:44 PM
    • 124 Posts
    • 38 Thanks
    higgledypiggledy_pop
    Wow, what a ride! This was exactly what I needed on a rainy lunch break...

    *eats popcorn and waits for further updates*
    Originally posted by KateySW
    I am sorry, but this is a very unfortunate real life situation, not a soap opera for your amusement!!
    • fairy lights
    • By fairy lights 11th Jul 17, 4:45 PM
    • 7,859 Posts
    • 26,060 Thanks
    fairy lights
    I'd be pretty worried that they might replace the c18th mattress with a cheap ikea knock off
    • higgledypiggledy_pop
    • By higgledypiggledy_pop 11th Jul 17, 4:48 PM
    • 124 Posts
    • 38 Thanks
    higgledypiggledy_pop
    I want to know what the HMRC said and why the police are now involved ooo and where is the agent (who is a friend of a friend) with the deposit and possibly tax money.
    Originally posted by aneary
    I am openly being mocked, I will not be asking for any more advice.
    • Guest101
    • By Guest101 11th Jul 17, 4:54 PM
    • 14,478 Posts
    • 14,182 Thanks
    Guest101
    I am openly being mocked, I will not be asking for any more advice.
    Originally posted by higgledypiggledy_pop


    that's upto you. But mocking aside you've had some excellent advice here - if only you'd listened when this started
    • davholla
    • By davholla 11th Jul 17, 4:57 PM
    • 450 Posts
    • 85 Thanks
    davholla
    I am openly being mocked, I will not be asking for any more advice.
    Originally posted by higgledypiggledy_pop
    Apologies for mocking you about the cat, saying that you now know
    1) It is not worth trying to evict them
    2) You have problems with your deposit and agents

    Not the news you want, but better than not knowing.
    • LuckyG
    • By LuckyG 11th Jul 17, 5:02 PM
    • 123 Posts
    • 202 Thanks
    LuckyG
    I am openly being mocked, I will not be asking for any more advice.
    Originally posted by higgledypiggledy_pop
    It is a serious issue though, I mean, being a landlord must be a stressful thing.
    I said before, I could never do it.

    I honestly think if it's causing you this much misery, once the tenancy is up you should think about selling.
    They might be decent tenants and once they receive notice at the appropriate time, they could surprise you and move on.
    If I was given notice on the property I'm currently renting, I wouldn't want to stay here any longer than necessary. I'd stay until the end of my tenancy but I'd do my best to get out in time. I can't say I'd make myself homeless, but I wouldn't stay here and not bother trying to find somewhere else either.

    Not all tenants are bad, regardless of whether or not they've got pets. I think you should give them a chance, it would be highly beneficial for your peace of mind if you could do a personal inspection on the property. Even if that means travelling to do so,
    • Riggyman
    • By Riggyman 11th Jul 17, 5:12 PM
    • 151 Posts
    • 132 Thanks
    Riggyman
    Are there vampires though?
    • G_M
    • By G_M 11th Jul 17, 5:52 PM
    • 40,194 Posts
    • 45,939 Thanks
    G_M
    I am openly being mocked, I will not be asking for any more advice.
    Originally posted by higgledypiggledy_pop
    Olease don't take offence and disappear. We are all on tentahooks for the next episode..
    • Pyxis
    • By Pyxis 11th Jul 17, 6:08 PM
    • 27,414 Posts
    • 99,653 Thanks
    Pyxis
    What worries me is not so much what animal is living in the flat, but rather what creatures are living in the 18thC mattress.
    (I just lurve spiders! )
    INFJ(Turbulent).

    Her Greenliness Baroness Pyxis of the Alphabetty, P.P..
    ¥ ¥ ¥
    X ~O
    • teddysmum
    • By teddysmum 11th Jul 17, 6:18 PM
    • 7,886 Posts
    • 4,698 Thanks
    teddysmum
    You are not taking this thread seriously enough.


    It was full moon on Sunday, so has anyone checked that the friendly neighbour/spy hasn't given her life in the course of duty ?
    • teddysmum
    • By teddysmum 11th Jul 17, 6:22 PM
    • 7,886 Posts
    • 4,698 Thanks
    teddysmum
    an original C18th stuffed mattress
    Originally posted by higgledypiggledy_pop

    Fail on health and safety grounds, as it's not fire proof, so especially dangerous if there are dragons about.
    • Pyxis
    • By Pyxis 11th Jul 17, 6:26 PM
    • 27,414 Posts
    • 99,653 Thanks
    Pyxis
    Fail on health and safety grounds, as it's not fire proof, so especially dangerous if there are dragons about.
    Originally posted by teddysmum
    I believe that antique furniture/furnishings made before 1950 are exempt.
    I rather suspect that the fire resistance of the mattress be the least of its problems!
    A dragon might find it cosy, though, or a princess with an aversion to peas.
    (I just lurve spiders! )
    INFJ(Turbulent).

    Her Greenliness Baroness Pyxis of the Alphabetty, P.P..
    ¥ ¥ ¥
    X ~O
    • higgledypiggledy_pop
    • By higgledypiggledy_pop 11th Jul 17, 8:43 PM
    • 124 Posts
    • 38 Thanks
    higgledypiggledy_pop
    It is a serious issue though, I mean, being a landlord must be a stressful thing.
    I said before, I could never do it.

    I honestly think if it's causing you this much misery, once the tenancy is up you should think about selling.
    They might be decent tenants and once they receive notice at the appropriate time, they could surprise you and move on.
    If I was given notice on the property I'm currently renting, I wouldn't want to stay here any longer than necessary. I'd stay until the end of my tenancy but I'd do my best to get out in time. I can't say I'd make myself homeless, but I wouldn't stay here and not bother trying to find somewhere else either.

    Not all tenants are bad, regardless of whether or not they've got pets. I think you should give them a chance, it would be highly beneficial for your peace of mind if you could do a personal inspection on the property. Even if that means travelling to do so,
    Originally posted by LuckyG
    Thank you for your serious response, I am not pursuing the issue of the dog at the moment (DESPITE the neighbour e-mailing me more photos of the bloody thing!) because the status and whereabouts of my agent is now causing me a lot of stress. An inspection would probably be a good idea but might give me an angina if there is damage. Perhaps I am allowed to appoint someone else to do the inspection on my behalf?
    • higgledypiggledy_pop
    • By higgledypiggledy_pop 11th Jul 17, 9:18 PM
    • 124 Posts
    • 38 Thanks
    higgledypiggledy_pop
    In essence I called the tax line yesterday and heard something very confusing and concerning that I did not like. When the operator asked me to clarify the situation I panicked and hung up. Will they now pursue me for details??
    • higgledypiggledy_pop
    • By higgledypiggledy_pop 11th Jul 17, 9:20 PM
    • 124 Posts
    • 38 Thanks
    higgledypiggledy_pop
    They know my name, my date of birth and my property's address
    • rjwr
    • By rjwr 11th Jul 17, 9:20 PM
    • 235 Posts
    • 152 Thanks
    rjwr
    yum yum yum..................
    My DFD: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5641837
    • LuckyG
    • By LuckyG 11th Jul 17, 9:38 PM
    • 123 Posts
    • 202 Thanks
    LuckyG
    Thank you for your serious response, I am not pursuing the issue of the dog at the moment (DESPITE the neighbour e-mailing me more photos of the bloody thing!) because the status and whereabouts of my agent is now causing me a lot of stress. An inspection would probably be a good idea but might give me an angina if there is damage. Perhaps I am allowed to appoint someone else to do the inspection on my behalf?
    Originally posted by higgledypiggledy_pop
    I can't see why not
    • Red-Squirrel
    • By Red-Squirrel 11th Jul 17, 9:41 PM
    • 1,405 Posts
    • 3,700 Thanks
    Red-Squirrel
    If a re-gifted chocolate orange gets brought in to play we might have a winner
    Originally posted by fairy lights
    Ok, I've read the motorhome one before, but what are the chocolate orange and the bag for life ones all about? Can't see anything obvious in search results.
Welcome to our new Forum!

Our aim is to save you money quickly and easily. We hope you like it!

Forum Team Contact us

Live Stats

1,040Posts Today

6,846Users online

Martin's Twitter
  • Byebye! I'm about to stop work & twitter, to instead spend glorious time with Mrs & mini MSE. Wishing u a lovely summer. See u in 10 days.

  • WARNING Did you start Uni in or after 2012? The interest's rising to 6.1%; yet it doesnt work like you think. See https://t.co/IQ8f0Vyetu RT

  • RT @JanaBeee: @MartinSLewis Boris is the anomaly (coffee), the others are versions of normal (beer). Lots of same candidates = vote share d?

  • Follow Martin