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    • Outsider_83
    • By Outsider_83 10th Jul 17, 11:02 AM
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    Getting out before the 12th
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    • 10th Jul 17, 11:02 AM
    Getting out before the 12th 10th Jul 17 at 11:02 AM
    I'm new to Ireland and I've just became aware of of the secterian hate rampage on July 12th. I plan to go down to Mayo from the 11th to 16th, is this long enough and will I be safe to return then? The though of my house being destroyed or getting caught up in the violence of the day where I could end up dead terrifies me.

    What is the norm leaving duration in Ireland for this time?
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    • duggan1
    • By duggan1 10th Jul 17, 11:30 AM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 11:30 AM
    I'm new to Ireland and I've just became aware of of the secterian hate rampage on July 12th. I plan to go down to Mayo from the 11th to 16th, is this long enough and will I be safe to return then? The though of my house being destroyed or getting caught up in the violence of the day where I could end up dead terrifies me.

    What is the norm leaving duration in Ireland for this time?
    Originally posted by Outsider_83
    Nowhere near long enough. Mayo isn't far enough away anyway. All week roaming gangs of rabid loyalists foaming orange at the mouth have letters of marque from the DUP allowing them to chase down people who dare to leave to avoid the bonfires/parades. You'll likely be hunted down by these 'privateers' and dragged back, probably to speak at one of the fields.
    • donnac2558
    • By donnac2558 10th Jul 17, 11:49 AM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 11:49 AM
    Nowhere near long enough. Mayo isn't far enough away anyway. All week roaming gangs of rabid loyalists foaming orange at the mouth have letters of marque from the DUP allowing them to chase down people who dare to leave to avoid the bonfires/parades. You'll likely be hunted down by these 'privateers' and dragged back, probably to speak at one of the fields.
    Originally posted by duggan1



    I heard Outer Mongolian was nice at this time of year.
    • lost1
    • By lost1 10th Jul 17, 12:43 PM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 12:43 PM
    Let the purge Begin!
    • RikM
    • By RikM 10th Jul 17, 1:06 PM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 1:06 PM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 1:06 PM
    That's me !!!!!!ed then. This is probably the first year we haven't been away on the 12th for several years (free holiday, just outside of peak rates for the UK... ).

    The worst I've personally seen was not from the 12th, but from someone taking down flags in a nearby town... being nonchalant about navigating past burnt out wrecks on the roads, in front of my parents the next day, was probably the difficult bit.

    It's the not being able to do much which bugs me. A day off work but can't go anywhere without trying to work out which roads are going to be obstructed by marching.
    • qwert yuiop
    • By qwert yuiop 10th Jul 17, 1:08 PM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 1:08 PM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 1:08 PM
    I'm new to Ireland and I've just became aware of of the secterian hate rampage on July 12th. I plan to go down to Mayo from the 11th to 16th, is this long enough and will I be safe to return then? The though of my house being destroyed or getting caught up in the violence of the day where I could end up dead terrifies me.

    What is the norm leaving duration in Ireland for this time?
    Originally posted by Outsider_83
    Who's seen "28 Days"?

    It'll be all right when the Americans arrive. Once you can smell the napalm in the morning, it'll be safe to come home. Whether you've a home when you get there is another matter.
    Actually, wait until you can hear "Ride of the Valkyries" booming from a helicopter.
    Last edited by qwert yuiop; 10-07-2017 at 1:12 PM.
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 10th Jul 17, 1:13 PM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 1:13 PM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 1:13 PM
    I'm new to Ireland and I've just became aware of of the secterian hate rampage on July 12th. I plan to go down to Mayo from the 11th to 16th, is this long enough and will I be safe to return then? The though of my house being destroyed or getting caught up in the violence of the day where I could end up dead terrifies me.

    What is the norm leaving duration in Ireland for this time?
    Originally posted by Outsider_83
    As long as you avoid hard line republican areas then you should be fine.

    The parades generally pass off peacefully - its people who sometimes have driven many miles to be offended by a parade who spark the violence.
    You are not special. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 10th Jul 17, 1:29 PM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 1:29 PM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 1:29 PM
    What about the Easter Rising marches? Are they hate marches too?

    How about those marches on 5th May commemorating the hunger strikes?

    Internment marches on 9th August?

    Will we ban all those too?

    What about Gay Pride marches? Cant be too careful here - there might be some Gay Prods in there too - cant have them marching down traditional routes you know.
    You are not special. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.
    • madaminx
    • By madaminx 10th Jul 17, 1:36 PM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 1:36 PM
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    Lol too funny.

    I'm not a major band supporter, saw them with my granny when I was a child.

    These aren't hate marches they are a celebration of the Battle of the Boyne,.only problem is that there is an element of folk who like to use it as an excuse to cause trouble, get drunk and generally make a serious nuisance of themselves. And of course don't know their history, part of the reason for this also is that our history wasn't taught in our schools, at least not in mine. And even if it was it would probably be biased.

    All in all for those who want it be, it can be a great day out for everyone from all sections of the community and tourists.
    • qwert yuiop
    • By qwert yuiop 10th Jul 17, 1:42 PM
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    I once went to the Munich Oktoberfest. It wasn't a whole lot different - apart from more beer and worse bands.

    Anyone been to Pamplona to get chased down the street by furious bulls with a mob of drunken basques? Always wanted to go. Mrs. yuiop always objected.
    Last edited by qwert yuiop; 10-07-2017 at 1:44 PM.
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 10th Jul 17, 1:42 PM
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    Lol too funny.

    I'm not a major band supporter, saw them with my granny when I was a child.

    These aren't hate marches they are a celebration of the Battle of the Boyne,.only problem is that there is an element of folk who like to use it as an excuse to cause trouble, get drunk and generally make a serious nuisance of themselves. And of course don't know their history, part of the reason for this also is that our history wasn't taught in our schools, at least not in mine. And even if it was it would probably be biased.

    All in all for those who want it be, it can be a great day out for everyone from all sections of the community and tourists.
    Originally posted by madaminx
    Wholly agree. The vast majority of people who either go and participate or go and watch have a great day out.

    There are of course a very very small minority on both sides of the community who want to cause trouble and of course, Northern Ireland being as it is, its these small minority who get reported on.
    You are not special. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.
    • saverbuyer
    • By saverbuyer 10th Jul 17, 2:06 PM
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    Stop feeding the troll folks.
    • tommie
    • By tommie 10th Jul 17, 2:18 PM
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    Could i suggest if you can make it down to Waterford direction apparently the local SF hierarchy are holding some sort of `take you out` do!

    I glean from local reports that even a local SF councillor has been offered this freebie

    https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/883963781222629376
    Sinn F!in councillor says he was warned that he would be "taken out"

    Probably have some nice restaurant in mind, it`ll take your mind off all those nasty hate-filled marched up North.

    All in an atmosphere of `Equality` and `Respect`

    Enjoy yourself!
    • qwert yuiop
    • By qwert yuiop 10th Jul 17, 2:37 PM
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    I'm intrigued by Paul hogan and that kangaroo court. Should it not have been a crocodile?

    Tell them to take a running jump and hop it, Paul.
    • Outsider_83
    • By Outsider_83 10th Jul 17, 2:59 PM
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    I seem to have caused offence, I was not aware this behaviour had and degree of support. Having reviewed social media including the LAD page I do wonder how anyone could support this ghastly behaviour.
    • Cherryscone
    • By Cherryscone 10th Jul 17, 3:11 PM
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    I'm new to Ireland and I've just became aware of of the secterian hate rampage on July 12th. I plan to go down to Mayo from the 11th to 16th, is this long enough and will I be safe to return then? The though of my house being destroyed or getting caught up in the violence of the day where I could end up dead terrifies me.

    What is the norm leaving duration in Ireland for this time?
    Originally posted by Outsider_83
    Your having a Laugh??
    Is It here Northern Ireland you Live in?
    ~We are all going to hell and guess whos driving the bus~


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    • Cotta
    • By Cotta 10th Jul 17, 3:29 PM
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    Pretty absurd topic in general but I'll bite on one aspect not addressed.

    You mentioned LAD on social media, this is a fairly biased and inaccurate page in general with a questionable following. They recently posted a video of cars getting stuck on Rossnowlagh beach and alluded this must have been Orangemen as it was at the ROI Twelfth. Firstly there is no evidence these are Orangemen or even supporters and they could well have been there just for the day. Parade participants generally park in the assembly field which is over one mile away and to park on the beach would have been an inconvenience. Finally on this topic the Twelfth here as in many areas it is a family orientated, relaxed and fun day so be careful what you read or hear.

    I would also say I'm a participant in these parades and it's been years since I've eaten a Catholic baby.
    Last edited by Cotta; 10-07-2017 at 3:35 PM.
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 10th Jul 17, 3:32 PM
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    I seem to have caused offence, I was not aware this behaviour had and degree of support. Having reviewed social media including the LAD page I do wonder how anyone could support this ghastly behaviour.
    Originally posted by Outsider_83
    Oh you havent cause offence at all. Quite the reverse.

    Your comments are actually very amusing - for example you refer to people involved in these "hate" marches as "scum".

    The irony of that made me laugh out loud.
    Last edited by motorguy; 10-07-2017 at 3:36 PM.
    You are not special. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.
    • qwert yuiop
    • By qwert yuiop 10th Jul 17, 3:41 PM
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    , I was not aware this behaviour had and degree of support. .
    Originally posted by Outsider_83

    Any degree, possibly? Several hundred thousand people turn up and you're not aware there's any degree of support? That reminds me of a lying Englishman I once met who claimed he'd never met anyone who votes Labour.

    Just checked LAD. Nothing like a bit of seething hatred to calm yourself, is there? If it was actually funny, it might have been worth it, but it was just cac. (That's an Irish word.)
    Last edited by qwert yuiop; 10-07-2017 at 3:49 PM.
    • Outsider_83
    • By Outsider_83 10th Jul 17, 3:46 PM
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    Several 100k, bit of an exaggeration a few thousand at most and I've only came across one marcher and that was above on this thread, Cotta?
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