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    • MichLambo
    • By MichLambo 10th Jul 17, 8:30 AM
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    Bungalow not getting any viewings feedback appreciated
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    • 10th Jul 17, 8:30 AM
    Bungalow not getting any viewings feedback appreciated 10th Jul 17 at 8:30 AM
    Hi all, we are selling our bungalow and don't seem to be getting any viewings, we have been on the market for four weeks and have only had three.We did get an offer for the full price but they changed their mind Our estate agent suggests a price reduction as other bungalows in our immediate area are cheaper, most of them are a lot smaller and in my opinion not nearly as nice. We would appreciate some feedback. Won't let me post a link but the our postcode is CT11 7AP

    thanks in advance
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    • AnotherJoe
    • By AnotherJoe 10th Jul 17, 10:12 AM
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    The link is for a semi detached new build house with no secure outside space (no rear garden), they are very nice places and done to a high standard but they have been on the market for ages. Bungalows do generally achieve a higher price than houses due to the amount of land needed to build them! Re dining room: the lounge is quite large and would easily accommodate a dining area, maybe that's the answer. perhaps if we rearrange the lounge and put a dining area in that would help
    Originally posted by MichLambo
    It might well do, i think it would even be worth getting rid of the larger living room suite and replacing with a much less bulky one. Given the amount of money you might save, that could be a very good investment (much less than your £10k reduction for example) , if you can, please forgive me, no offence meant, fool someone into thinking its a three bedroom
    • 00ec25
    • By 00ec25 10th Jul 17, 10:12 AM
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    The link is for a semi detached new build house with no secure outside space (no rear garden), they are very nice places and done to a high standard but they have been on the market for ages. Bungalows do generally achieve a higher price than houses due to the amount of land needed to build them! Re dining room: the lounge is quite large and would easily accommodate a dining area, maybe that's the answer. perhaps if we rearrange the lounge and put a dining area in that would help
    Originally posted by MichLambo
    LOL, in the time taken to post your asking price has dropped?
    now on at offers over 315k?

    leaving aside that change, when i started to write this post yours was still 325k and although yours is "modern", your direct competitor is more "twee", but it has:
    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-66839315.html
    a) much larger plot and
    b) your lounge is 15 x 11. You will need to squeeze a dining table in there. In contrast they have a 13 x 12 lounge PLUS a 12 x 9 dining room and 3 bedrooms as well

    your price reduction may help, and as you know if people need a bungalow they won't look at houses, but all the same 315 for what you offer is not that good set against houses within half mile of you.
    here's 3 beds, "semi" (OK its end of t) but it's "only" 290K
    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-49261338.html

    more to the point, if people really must have bungalows then the bargain basement reveals:
    i) 3 bed bungalow 275K http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-66327323.html
    and
    ii) a 4 bed semi (half, ie 2 beds down and 2 up) bungalow 280K http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-60140260.html
    Last edited by 00ec25; 10-07-2017 at 10:35 AM.
    • SuboJvR
    • By SuboJvR 10th Jul 17, 10:14 AM
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    The room sizes look good, utility is a bonus so make sure you talk that up, I'd want the guest bedroom to be labelled master bedroom (even if you dont use it as such) and perhaps move the sofa so its facing the tv and pop a table and chairs behind it - get rid of the sofa chair you have in there at the minute so its not too cramped.

    You may just find you've hit a slump in the market, I wouldnt worry about the price at this stage
    Originally posted by mishkanorman
    I agree the Utility is a definite bonus!

    OP you really need to get the floorplan sorted; I assume the utility isn't only accessed from outside. Such little things can put people off and they'll click onto the next house.
    • Tiners
    • By Tiners 10th Jul 17, 10:18 AM
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    That's not comparing like with like though - the OP's place is detached. For me (and many others - but not everyone I acknowledge) being attached would be an immediate deal-breaker.
    Originally posted by TrickyDicky101

    Yes being detached does obviously put a certain premium on it... not sure it makes it worth over 80% more than what other comparable semi's on the same street have recently sold for though?

    Also for a detached it's still rather 'hemmed in' and over looked.
    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 10th Jul 17, 10:22 AM
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    Who is the target market is one issue. It might suit a single, wishing to rent out two rooms as they could have the en-suite room and rent out the two bedrooms. Only research would show if there were still something better/cheaper with that idea in mind.

    It could be for people "working from home" as they could work from a bedroom close to the front door and it has good off road parking. Again, only research of other houses locally and their layouts would show if this was a goer.

    It's not for older people as they'd not get in/out of that bath.

    As others have said, it's probably not for families as they would want a dining room, so then it's a 2 bed.

    It's not for "private people" as many of the photos show the garden's overlooked a lot.

    I think the biggest problem, therefore, is the property "finding its market" so to speak.

    Who do you think would buy it/why? Why did you buy it?
    • glasgowdan
    • By glasgowdan 10th Jul 17, 10:53 AM
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    There are definitely similar properties that are a good chunk cheaper, e.g. http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-58509121.html
    • Tiners
    • By Tiners 10th Jul 17, 11:02 AM
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    There are definitely similar properties that are a good chunk cheaper, e.g. http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-58509121.html
    Originally posted by glasgowdan

    To be fair that is a ''lifetime lease'' property... which really is a scam aimed lunatics with more money than than sense, where as the OP's property and asking price is more aimed at gullible idiots with more money than sense.
    • SuboJvR
    • By SuboJvR 10th Jul 17, 11:13 AM
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    Who is the target market is one issue. It might suit a single, wishing to rent out two rooms as they could have the en-suite room and rent out the two bedrooms. Only research would show if there were still something better/cheaper with that idea in mind.

    It could be for people "working from home" as they could work from a bedroom close to the front door and it has good off road parking. Again, only research of other houses locally and their layouts would show if this was a goer.

    It's not for older people as they'd not get in/out of that bath.

    As others have said, it's probably not for families as they would want a dining room, so then it's a 2 bed.

    It's not for "private people" as many of the photos show the garden's overlooked a lot.

    I think the biggest problem, therefore, is the property "finding its market" so to speak.

    Who do you think would buy it/why? Why did you buy it?
    Originally posted by PasturesNew
    Definitely agree with this. Also wanted to point out that having a "low level" toilet is good for children, however generally not good for older people. (When the hips/knees start to go, this can be problematic... it's something I became a lot more aware of after spending time with my in laws both of whom have had knee replacements. Shopping centres are the worst for having really low toilets!)

    As a youngish couple, I do like the look of the house and the astro would actually appeal to my husband. There's a garage too which is a bonus, as is the utility room. However I would expect to be able to set up a dining table in a three bed house. Where do you actually eat? At the moment, in our 2 bed terrace, we eat on our laps and then if we do have guests the dining table takes over the entire living room. I don't like that at all for a home we'd buy but it's a comfortable place otherwise and has served us well when we moved down.
    • shortcrust
    • By shortcrust 10th Jul 17, 11:21 AM
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    If you're getting zero viewings and there's nothing obviously wrong then it's always price. There are loads of threads like this and you know the answer is price as before you open the thread. Sellers always have lots of very well thought out reasons why it's not. But it is.

    That said, the photos aren't great. Looks a bit gloomy and the main photo of the front looks stark and municipal. Better photos when the sun's at a more favourable position and with blinds etc open (unless they're hiding stuff...) and a much better photo of the front would help a bit.
    • TBagpuss
    • By TBagpuss 10th Jul 17, 11:22 AM
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    I agree with previous posters that this looks like a 2 bed where you're using the dining room as a bedroom, rather than a true 3 bed.

    Re-arranging things so that you either have a kitchen-diner or lounge-diner (labelled as such) may help. id the 'guest bedroom' accessed through the lounge, or through the kitchen? Either way, the lay out seems a bit awkward for a bedroom and does add to the impression that that room is really a dining room rather than a bedroom.

    I also think PasturesNew is right - your bath looks very nice, but anyone interested in a bungalow because they want a more accessible property is likely to look at that and factor in the cost of a new bathroom when considering their offer.

    I'd also suggest that you change the price so it isn't 'offers over' - a lot of people find that very off-putting, I know when I was house-hunting it seemed to be a very good indicator that the property was overpriced and / or the sellers unable / unwilling to be realistic , both of which are red flags!

    If you get the agents to update the listing and correct the floor plan I'd suggest that you also ask them to rearrange the photos so they are in a more logical order - they do jump about a bit. (also, the lighting in the 2 pics of the kitchen make the cabinets look completely different colours - if you can get better pictures with more consistent lighting I would)

    That said, I think that the minor things such as the photos and floor plan are relatively minor and that price is the main issue
    • gonebust
    • By gonebust 10th Jul 17, 11:24 AM
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    As a 50+ with grandchildren, I would be considering a 3 bed bungalow next time around and first look, yours seemed ideal, two bathrooms, well maintained, easy to care for garden, parking...

    But then when you look again and see there's no dining room or any room in the kitchen for a table, I'd pass up on it.
    • gettingtheresometime
    • By gettingtheresometime 10th Jul 17, 11:29 AM
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    I think my biggest gripe would be that the guest bedroom seems to have had an ensuite shoe horned in.
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    • Penitent
    • By Penitent 10th Jul 17, 11:31 AM
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    I agree with PasturesNew. Your house seems to be having a bit of an identity crisis.

    Part of the reason bungalows go for a premium is because they're accessible for elderly or disabled folk, but because of the bathrooms and the steps at the front door and in the garden, they would need to spend money adapting yours, so wouldn't be willing to spend top price for it.

    On the another hand, families buying in that price bracket expect a dining room, so it's only really a two bed, so they'd be better off buying a normal house and getting more rooms for their money instead of paying a premium for a bungalow.

    I'd also be thinking about how I'd have to repaint all the rooms with writing on the walls, which would annoy me if I was paying a premium due to the house being done up.

    Cute dog, though.
    • Penitent
    • By Penitent 10th Jul 17, 11:42 AM
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    I also agree with TBagpuss about OIEO/offers over. When I was looking, I read OIEO as "inflexible, don't bother". It's even more off-putting when the house is the dearest one in the area or if it's been on the market for a while.
    • ReadingTim
    • By ReadingTim 10th Jul 17, 11:49 AM
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    There's an awful lot of dull grey concrete in that first picture - very uninspiring. It requires some willpower to see past that, especially given the other shortcomings in the ad, such as:
    • The location of the doors to the lounge, guest bedroom and utility room make the layout difficult to understand - can the viewer be bothered to do that?
    • While the astroturf might appeal to some, the motivational slogans on the bathroom and bedroom walls are a major turn off for me. Plus the bottom line of the one in the bathroom doesn't look level, sloping off at a wonky angle...
    • No dining room or space for dining table, as previously discussed.
    • The garden seems somewhat small, shaded and overlooked, rather than the 'large plot, lots of space' one associates with bungalows.
    • Online agents and an "offers in excess of" price are also little turn-offs to some buyers.
    If the price was more competitive, people might look past these little niggles, or at least view the place and see what they might like to do with it. But with the price where it is, even a cursory viewing probably isn't worth the time, given the cumulative errors and irritations in the ad. I see you've made a slight cut in the price, but suggest a drop to £299,950 to stimulate any sort of meaningful interest.
    • glasgowdan
    • By glasgowdan 10th Jul 17, 11:53 AM
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    The other thing that would put me right off is the fact the garden is quite small, and is HEAVILY overlooked by neighbours. There's nothing that can be done about that though.
    • Murphybear
    • By Murphybear 10th Jul 17, 12:14 PM
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    I am in the bungalow market, so to speak. The biggest issue for me is the amount of concrete in the front and that it is heavily overlooked. That in its own is a deal breaker. Price can always be adjusted.
    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 10th Jul 17, 12:32 PM
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    I play wit the more like this link, lower the bottom price add SSTC and extend area

    this one caught my eye.

    http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-66839315.html
    • MichLambo
    • By MichLambo 10th Jul 17, 2:26 PM
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    My thanks to every one for your feedback, feel a little depressed now.
    • mollycat
    • By mollycat 10th Jul 17, 2:45 PM
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    My thanks to every one for your feedback, feel a little depressed now.
    Originally posted by MichLambo
    No need; count your many blessings.

    Perspective, my friend.
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