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    • omariqy
    • By omariqy 9th Jul 17, 11:22 AM
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    Gravel for Driveway
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    • 9th Jul 17, 11:22 AM
    Gravel for Driveway 9th Jul 17 at 11:22 AM
    Hello all

    We have a small (potential) drive (about 24 sq/m) that is partially paved at the moment. The remainder had big bushes that we have now taken out and so only soil is left now. We were thinking of carrying on the block paving but I think it will be hard to match it up plus expensive. We've decided to use gravel for the area we have dug out (about 14 sq/m). What's the best way to go about doing this and what material would I need? I've seen articles online talking about installing grids first but then i've seen articles saying just get MOT Type 1 sub base and then gravel on top. Not sure which is better. I also don't want to be spending such a ridiculous amount on such a small area.
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    • MonsieurFrugal
    • By MonsieurFrugal 9th Jul 17, 1:21 PM
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    You'll need a sub base or the gravel will just over time disappear into the soil.
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    • omariqy
    • By omariqy 10th Jul 17, 3:20 PM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 3:20 PM
    So sub base and then gravel? That's it?
    • EssexExile
    • By EssexExile 10th Jul 17, 3:57 PM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 3:57 PM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 3:57 PM
    Worth a look:
    http://www.pavingexpert.com/gravel01.htm
    Tall, dark & handsome. Well two out of three ain't bad.
    • warehouse
    • By warehouse 10th Jul 17, 4:04 PM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 4:04 PM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 4:04 PM
    I help the kids with a magazine round once a month so am used to traipsing up and down peoples driveways, (think we do about 600 in total). Gravel driveways are, (in my opinion), bl**dy awful things. They look bad, they sound bad and in every instance there is gravel far beyond where it is laid, IE all over the pavement. If you're really sure you want one then please go and look at a few and walk around on them if you can.

    There are a couple that use slate waste instead, (see the link in the post above this post), and not only does it look better but it tends to stay put and only makes a fraction of the noise that a gravel driveway does.

    All my opinion OP, but please research slate as well.
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    • omariqy
    • By omariqy 10th Jul 17, 4:07 PM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 4:07 PM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 4:07 PM
    I need to buy the material and it needs to be permeable. The labour cost will be the same. I figured gravel would be cheaper?
    • katihannah
    • By katihannah 10th Jul 17, 4:08 PM
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    • 10th Jul 17, 4:08 PM
    I used grids to lay mine, it stays put and is firm underfoot, so far so good!
    • omariqy
    • By omariqy 11th Jul 17, 9:47 AM
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    • 11th Jul 17, 9:47 AM
    I used grids to lay mine, it stays put and is firm underfoot, so far so good!
    Originally posted by katihannah
    Thanks. Which brand did you use if you mind me asking?
    • Chrishazle
    • By Chrishazle 11th Jul 17, 9:53 AM
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    • 11th Jul 17, 9:53 AM
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    • 11th Jul 17, 9:53 AM
    When we had our driveway done at the old house, they first dug out the clay, then put in a load of hardcore and whacker plated it, then a weed stop permeable membrane, then MOT type 1 pink stuff whacker plated, then a thin skin of peabeach to top it out. Never had any problems with weeds etc growing through (previously it was peabeach straight onto the clay, never could stop the weeds!) for the 10 years before we sold the house.
    • Katies Mum
    • By Katies Mum 11th Jul 17, 9:54 AM
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    We used gravel on our drive precisely because it is noisy when walked on. Deters burglars and other unwelcome visitors.
    • Katies Mum
    • By Katies Mum 11th Jul 17, 9:57 AM
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    However... posted too soon. We would use grids if we had our time again. We had type 1 laid with gravel on top. Weeds don't grow through the type 1, but over time soil settles into the gravel and weeds grow into this. They are easy to remove, though. The grids would stop the gravel being moved by the cars wheels.
    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 11th Jul 17, 10:53 AM
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    grids....
    Thanks. Which brand did you use if you mind me asking?
    Originally posted by omariqy
    you still need to level the area.

    when I was looking £10sqm was the low ball with most being closer to £15-£20.
    • casper_g
    • By casper_g 11th Jul 17, 12:13 PM
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    If you want gravel to stay put you need to use something angular, like the stuff sold as "Cotswold chippings". Rounded gravel like pea gravel/river gravel moves far too much as the bits don't "lock together".

    Our driveway is paved, but there's a parking area to one side that is Cotswold gravel, and we only have a minor annoyance due to a couple of bits making their way onto the paving each week. Our neighbours have well-rounded pea gravel and it makes a heck of a mess spreading across the pavement. It's also migrated off the strips where the car wheels go to the extent that the landscaping fabric underneath is exposed (and ripped).
    • omariqy
    • By omariqy 13th Jul 17, 1:58 PM
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    Is block paving that much more expensive? I've seen that Marshall Driveline is supposed to be good?
    • Davesnave
    • By Davesnave 13th Jul 17, 2:43 PM
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    We used gravel on our drive precisely because it is noisy when walked on. Deters burglars and other unwelcome visitors.
    Originally posted by Katies Mum
    The only time we experienced an attempted burglary was when a young lad stepped onto gravel and woke our daughter, who jumped to the wrong conclusion and thought he was stealing her ferrets.

    Hell may have no fury like a woman scorned, but by heck, there's nothing to compare with one who thinks her pets are being nicked! The guy fell and injured himself, while the air turned blue with expletives I'd never heard our 'young lady' use before!

    So it worked.

    The ferrets were perfectly safe. Let's face it, who'd steal creatures that could leave you with half a dozen puncture wounds in a matter of seconds?

    Have to say our gravel drive here in the country is very useful, just for hearing people like the postman for up to around 100m on a good day.
    'A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they'll never sit in.'
    • omariqy
    • By omariqy 15th Jul 17, 12:53 PM
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    So the builder will be buying hardcore, screed, cement and the block paving. He's asked me to source the block paving so that it is delivered direct to the house. Which one do I buy to make sure I don't need to get planning permission? Is the Marshall Standard block paving ok? If not, will they need a drainage system for the water to run off?
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